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I'm a big fan of my Diamond housing. Has anyone checked straightness of some of the cheaper housings?



Very sad that I have to sell it, but life happens...
 
The only downside to a lot of these aftermarket housings is the ground clearance.

If I have no intention of ever running a 10” gear I want the housing as tight to the ring gear as possible for my regular 9 inch gears, or mega hi9 gears.
 
If you decide to go with a trail gear housing, check summit racing. They will ship you the 68" housing for $19.99. It was cheaper for me to buy through Summit than to buy from TG.
Funny I actually ordered 2 TG 3.5" x 3/8" x 75" wide housings with axles seals included for $775 each earlier today for Summit.
I will report back on the straightness and build quality. Shipping was a little higher to my zip.
 
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I'm a big fan of my Diamond housing. Has anyone checked straightness of some of the cheaper housings?



Very sad that I have to sell it, but life happens...


Diamond axle does some nice work.

But the tubes do not need to be perfect. For an example, look at TGs offset tube housings.


I’d be more worried about straightness between hub-diff-hub

This^^^^^

To be more specific, it needs to be true through the bearings bore axis, the ends square, the face needs to be in the correct location and the mounting face needs to be flat.

And I won’t hold my breathe it’ll maintain that straightness after welding a bunch of brackets on it.

^^^^This too.
 
If the 05+ are supposed to be the better of the 2 ford unit bearings why do so many fabrocated housing makers opt for the 99-04? I know Mark Williams sells 05+ cups as well as a few others, but what is the reasoning behind like spidertrax sticking with those?
Spidertrax is working on 05+ based units. They are notoriously slow to market. Wait.
I've been waiting since 2018 when they teased their 1550 C's and Knuckles with 05+ UBs.

You know it's happening as they already have one 05+ based UB on their lineup.
Also, since the 99-04 based units aren't really failing left and right, the incentive to release a new product isn't there.
 
I think the are two different ways to look at the unite bearing cup situation.
Race cars / high end builds and trailrigs.
The race cars need to loose weight anywhere possible, strong and serviceable. The 99-04 Spidertrax cups and bearings do that very well.
Trailrigs are looking for strong, economical, serviceable. The 05-up unit bearings absolutely accomplish that.
I am in need of a couple of 05 bearing cups. I will post up what I know or and others can add as they become available.
 
I am in need of a couple of 05 bearing cups. I will post up what I know or and others can add as they become available.
Haven't found better options than the MW cup / seal / shaft system
 
If the 05+ are supposed to be the better of the 2 ford unit bearings why do so many fabrocated housing makers opt for the 99-04? I know Mark Williams sells 05+ cups as well as a few others, but what is the reasoning behind like spidertrax sticking with those?
because 8x6.5 is for tow rigs not trail rigs.
 
because 8x6.5 is for tow rigs not trail rigs.
What is the other option?

I wear a set of 05+ UBs every year roughly.

I know that the regular Timken 99-04 wouldn't fare much better.

And I'm not giving $1400/piece for Pro-Series Spidertrax UBs, nor going to Rockwell Spindle / Hubs.
 
What is the other option?

I wear a set of 05+ UBs every year roughly.
How long are D70, D80, Sterling and 14B rear hubs lasting in similar applicaitons. Two custom spindles and two custom drive slugs and you're there...
 
How long are D70, D80, Sterling and 14B rear hubs lasting in similar applicaitons. Two custom spindles and two custom drive slugs and you're there...
I bend 40sp spindles and absolutely hate dealing with the grease in the hubs...
Also, don't know what knuckle you have in mind that takes Dana 60 spindles and accepts RCV big Bells ?
 
I bend 40sp spindles and absolutely hate dealing with the grease in the hubs...
Also, don't know what knuckle you have in mind that takes Dana 60 spindles and accepts RCV big Bells ?
You didn't answer my question, I didn't say anything about a D60 and I'm pretty sure you didn't read the second sentence.
 
What is the other option?

I wear a set of 05+ UBs every year roughly.

I know that the regular Timken 99-04 wouldn't fare much better.

And I'm not giving $1400/piece for Pro-Series Spidertrax UBs, nor going to Rockwell Spindle / Hubs.
BJ eliminators?
 
You didn't answer my question, I didn't say anything about a D60 and I'm pretty sure you didn't read the second sentence.
I don't understand the second sentence.
Do you want me to design and have a CNC shop machine me some custom spindles? Why?

I'm using the UBs in a FRONT application. I cannot tell you how long a Dana 80 or sterling spindle last in this application. And we're trying to get away from 8x6.5 bolt pattern anyway.

BJ eliminators?
Not linked to the UB lifespan, but yes.
 
The reason for the unit bearing cup is to move beyond the traditional spindle. If you wreck a spindle, bent, threads or whatever, then you are repairing a housing + a new spindle $$ vs a new unit bearing and 4 nuts.
Why would you want to not go unit bearing rear if building new?
 
The reason for the unit bearing cup is to move beyond the traditional spindle. If you wreck a spindle, bent, threads or whatever, then you are repairing a housing + a new spindle $$ vs a new unit bearing and 4 nuts.
Why would you want to not go unit bearing rear if building new?
Exactly.
It's also easier to work on, lighter and in the case of a 05+ UB, you can find it at Autozone with a lifetime warranty.
 
Love it or hate it. I I use one of these in place of the speed sensor in the unit bearings. Just to know if has grease in it.
Front ABS Grease-able Block Off Fitting 99-16

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I don't understand the second sentence.
Do you want me to design and have a CNC shop machine me some custom spindles? Why?

I'm using the UBs in a FRONT application. I cannot tell you how long a Dana 80 or sterling spindle last in this application. And we're trying to get away from 8x6.5 bolt pattern anyway.


Not linked to the UB lifespan, but yes.
My point is that if longevity is actually an issue you are two drive flanges and two chunks of billet away from sticking whatever spindle/hub/bearing combo is proven to be sufficient on there. Not rocket science.

But it's not. You're running the UB because it's cheap, easy and replaceable.
 
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