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Border… I didnt see this one coming

ApeEater said:
Yup, definitely me starting the personal attacks. This is the one where I stated "responding in kind."
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I dont know why you are all butthurt over something I said. I never quoted you or mentioned your name.
 
Supposedly, that's the Rio grande by eagle pass. One can only hope it's true. And it's not alone.....

 
Pook said:
My friend who is Canadian, who lived here in BC and married a long time girlfriend that has dual citizenship, they have two kids, sold everything here and moved to Tennessee to be near her dad and brother, bought a out right house, and got settled in, took him 9 months to get a work visa, and he is still waiting to try and get citizenship almost 3 years later and I think has spent $15k already on an immigration lawyer.

No criminal record, no reason he shouldn't be allowed in. He is a journey men finish carpenter, has completed project management certifications. Not a free loader. He wants to work.
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Gee, maybe its because the law says 5 years as a Legal Permanent Resident before you can apply for citizenship. If he cant understand that, hes too fucking stupid to deserve citizenship.
 
Stuck said:
Gee, maybe its because the law says 5 years as a Legal Permanent Resident before you can apply for citizenship. If he cant understand that, hes too fucking stupid to deserve citizenship.
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Ah. See if he has something we need... then perhaps we should hire him. As a citizen? Ie if he has no record in his original country, and has skills, we are lacking, why make it more difficult and expensive?
 
Grnjp92 said:
Ah. See if he has something we need... then perhaps we should hire him. As a citizen? Ie if he has no record in his original country, and has skills, we are lacking, why make it more difficult and expensive?
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Is he here? Yes. Is he working? Yes. If hes an LPR he has all the privilege of a citizen except voting. Let him prove hes not piece of shit for a few years before we cant send his syrupy ass back too Canada when he turns out to be a psycho. Why be in a hurry to let foreign born have a say in how our country runs. They should apply this to stupid fucking Californians moving elsewhere.
 
ApeEater said:
The lines are INSIDE the wall.


Umm, that's been my point from the beginning. It's the republicans that refused to start.


Umm, because it's not working. I was against building a worthless wall when we're letting people in through the front door.
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The lines are imaginary inside the wall. They won’t don’t assign enough judges/court time so we have lines. That’s shouldn’t be here to start with but 4000 a day or 5000 a week is just fine.

No arguments that the Repugs wants the open border. The AG money in lobbing says that they wont close the border. Biden on Week 1 of being POTUS Announced to the World that he was undoing Most All of Trumps Border Policy. That is encouraging people to come illegally. Yet its the republicans fault that nothing is done with the border. Moron.

BTW walls create choke points when its easier to cross so it’s easier to police those areas. You can even set it up as convenient for vehicle access so our border agents can sit in AC most of the time. You know bring the fight on our terms. Nnot play to them. But yea its the Republicans that wont play ball. The Repugs don't want to get killed in elections so they are currently against funding the a Ukrainian war. All of the recent bills have given more money to Ukraine than to American border. Yet here you are saying they dont have enough money but the liberal democrat side wont put forth a bill that only deals with the border because they need to keep their war going stop pretending its about democracy or protecting America.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
The lines are imaginary inside the wall. They won’t don’t assign enough judges/court time so we have lines. That’s shouldn’t be here to start with but 4000 a day or 5000 a week is just fine.

No arguments that the Repugs wants the open border. The AG money in lobbing says that they wont close the border. Biden on Week 1 of being POTUS Announced to the World that he was undoing Most All of Trumps Border Policy. That is encouraging people to come illegally. Yet its the republicans fault that nothing is done with the border. Moron.

BTW walls create choke points when it’s easier to cross so it’s easier to police those areas. You can even set it up as convenient for vehicle access so our border agents can sit in AC most of the time. You know bring the fight on our terms. Nnot play to them. But yea it’s the Republicans that wont play ball. The Repugs don't want to get killed in elections so they are currently against funding the a Ukrainian war. All of the recent bills have given more money to Ukraine than to American border. Yet here you are saying they dont have enough money but the liberal democrat side wont put forth a bill that only deals with the border because they need to keep their war going stop pretending its about democracy or protecting America.
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Yes they did, after already passing the Israel and Ukraine funding bills all by themselves.
ApeEater said:
The second time, yes, after the things it was being tied to (Ukraine and Israel) got passed independently.

abcnews.go.com

Senate again fails to advance border security bill in election-year showdown vote

The Senate considered for the second time a border security package after Republicans blocked the bill from advancing at Trump's direction.
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ApeEater said:
Yes they did, after already passing the Israel and Ukraine funding bills all by themselves.
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I obviously dont like them refereeing to them as Repugs but if they only favor 1 war vs 2 then they are less detrimental to me and mine. Plus the part where all the DNC and most of the RNC & GOP hate Trump makes me pay more attention to Trump. Why do all those that support open borders and want War hate Trump?

The Dems obviously hate Black Americans. They have been lifting them from poverty since the 50’s and are they better off now? The Dems switched to Repugs when the dixicrats switched parties line is bullshit and has been debunked countless times. Most switched parties after they “quit being racist”
 
Thefishguy77 said:
The lines are imaginary inside the wall. They won’t don’t assign enough judges/court time so we have lines. That’s shouldn’t be here to start with but 4000 a day or 5000 a week is just fine.

No arguments that the Repugs wants the open border. The AG money in lobbing says that they wont close the border. Biden on Week 1 of being POTUS Announced to the World that he was undoing Most All of Trumps Border Policy. That is encouraging people to come illegally. Yet its the republicans fault that nothing is done with the border. Moron.
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I obviously dont like them refereeing to them as Repugs but if they only favor 1 war vs 2 then they are less detrimental to me and mine. Plus the part where all the DNC and most of the RNC & GOP hate Trump makes me pay more attention to Trump. Why do all those that support open borders and want War hate Trump?
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Yes, it's the republicans' fault that no laws are being changed to help with the border crisis. Executive orders are worthless, as evidenced by Biden dropping them immediately. Republicans were presented the opportunity to pass the bill THEY proposed and voted it down because Trump wants you people mad about the border.:idea:
 
ApeEater said:
Yes, it's the republicans' fault that no laws are being changed to help with the border crisis. Executive orders are worthless, as evidenced by Biden dropping them immediately. Republicans were presented the opportunity to pass the bill THEY proposed and voted it down because Trump wants you people mad about the border.:idea:
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Wow you’re a special kind of political flunkie aren’t you? Biden dropped all Trumps policies and the flow dramatically increased. Like right way.

Republicans were then presented with an opportunity to fund the proxy wars around the world with small percentages of that money going to the border enforcement. Again sorry you’re a moron who doesn’t understand the world. But then again reading your opinions on racism and white republicans I am not surprised as you’re an idealist or nothing vs an actual reality of the situation.
 
ApeEater said:
Yes, it's the republicans' fault that no laws are being changed to help with the border crisis. Executive orders are worthless, as evidenced by Biden dropping them immediately. Republicans were presented the opportunity to pass the bill THEY proposed and voted it down because Trump wants you people mad about the border.:idea:
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id be more mad if they passed some trash, lip service bill, EXACTLY like this one, and walked around like they solved anything.

Guess what? that bill will not solve shit.

They voted on it again yesterday, didnt you know that? there were about 4 "bipartisan" Dems who changed their vote to No in the senate. Chuck U Schumer wanted the vote again to show everyone that Trump killed this bill.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
Wow you’re a special kind of political flunkie aren’t you? Biden dropped all Trumps policies and the flow dramatically increased. Like right way.

Republicans were then presented with an opportunity to fund the proxy wars around the world with small percentages of that money going to the border enforcement. Again sorry you’re a moron who doesn’t understand the world. But then again reading your opinions on racism and white republicans I am not surprised as you’re an idealist or nothing vs an actual reality of the situation.
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And yet, the Republicans funded the proxy wars anyway and got NOTHING for the border instead. Let me guess, 17-dimension chess, right?
 
ApeEater said:
And yet, the Republicans funded the proxy wars anyway and got NOTHING for the border instead. Let me guess, 17-dimension chess, right?
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Hol' up.... im not saying the REpublicans arent shitbags, many are. But who controls the senate and whitehouse?

which party kicked out their Speaker after funding the foreign wars? basically ran him all the way out of congress.
 
Texas97 said:
Hol' up.... im not saying the REpublicans arent shitbags, many are. But who controls the senate and whitehouse?

which party kicked out their Speaker after funding the foreign wars? basically ran him all the way out of congress.
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My point is that they screamed and blustered that there would be no war funding until there was movement on the border. Then, they were presented with options for funding the war and progress on the border, and they denied it. Then they passed war funding by itself. Then they were presented progress for the border, and denied it too.

Yes, at some point republicans have to take responsibility for their failure to act. Especially when they didn't decline the foreign wars. So yes, the border crisis in its current form is republican's fault. Failure to act is failure.
 
ApeEater said:
My point is that they screamed and blustered that there would be no war funding until there was movement on the border. Then, they were presented with options for funding the war and progress on the border, and they denied it. Then they passed war funding by itself. Then they were presented progress for the border, and denied it too.

Yes, at some point republicans have to take responsibility for their failure to act. Especially when they didn't decline the foreign wars. So yes, the border crisis in its current form is republican's fault. Failure to act is failure.
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Do you not understand that "compromising" is what got us in the situation we're in? There is no way to compromise out of it. Besides, the left never really compromises.
 
Thumping said:
Do you not understand that "compromising" is what got us in the situation we're in? There is no way to compromise out of it. Besides, the left never really compromises.
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Yes, it's much better now.

Compromising is thinking Trump's executive orders will fix anything. If it's going to be fixed, it MUST be fixed legislatively. What's the harm in passing a not-quite-perfect law now if you think you can also pass a perfect law later? If you don't think you can pass a perfect law later, what's the harm in passing a not-quite-perfect law now? Where's the downside to action? We can all clearly see the downside to inaction.
 
ApeEater said:
Yes, it's much better now.

Compromising is thinking Trump's executive orders will fix anything. If it's going to be fixed, it MUST be fixed legislatively. What's the harm in passing a not-quite-perfect law now if you think you can also pass a perfect law later? If you don't think you can pass a perfect law later, what's the harm in passing a not-quite-perfect law now? Where's the downside to action? We can all clearly see the downside to inaction.
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Why did the border situation get worse immediately upon Biden taking office? Or are you claiming that it was just as bad or worse under Trump?
 
ApeEater said:
Yes, it's much better now.

Compromising is thinking Trump's executive orders will fix anything. If it's going to be fixed, it MUST be fixed legislatively. What's the harm in passing a not-quite-perfect law now if you think you can also pass a perfect law later? If you don't think you can pass a perfect law later, what's the harm in passing a not-quite-perfect law now? Where's the downside to action? We can all clearly see the downside to inaction.
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Are you mildly retarded? That is exactly WTF compromising is and we have compromised most of our liberties away. Its time we say no....fuck NO! We're not giving another mother fucking inch. If that means blood is shed...so fucking be it!
 
ApeEater said:
Yes, it's much better now.

Compromising is thinking Trump's executive orders will fix anything. If it's going to be fixed, it MUST be fixed legislatively. What's the harm in passing a not-quite-perfect law now if you think you can also pass a perfect law later? If you don't think you can pass a perfect law later, what's the harm in passing a not-quite-perfect law now? Where's the downside to action? We can all clearly see the downside to inaction.
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ate up with the TDS, the immigration problems are all brought on by the Democrat's. they need new voters, they are wearing out a bunch of theirs. we didn't have a problem till tater head invited them in and paid them to stay. as shitty as the republicans are, the democrats are worse. if we give them more money they will just import more future democrats. and lord knows they want the children for their sick shit.
 
bgaidan said:
Why did the border situation get worse immediately upon Biden taking office? Or are you claiming that it was just as bad or worse under Trump?
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Thumping said:
Are you mildly retarded? That is exactly WTF compromising is and we have compromised most of our liberties away. Its time we say no....fuck NO! We're not giving another mother fucking inch. If that means blood is shed...so fucking be it!
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gunracer1 said:
ate up with the TDS, the immigration problems are all brought on by the Democrat's. they need new voters, they are wearing out a bunch of theirs. we didn't have a problem till tater head invited them in and paid them to stay. as shitty as the republicans are, the democrats are worse. if we give them more money they will just import more future democrats. and lord knows they want the children for their sick shit.
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You guys are also eaten up with the TDS, just in reverse. Nowhere have I said the democrats are good. They fucking suck. However, the republicans had an opportunity to do something about it that can't be revered by an executive order, and they fucking failed. So we're stuck with democrat policies in effect, because the republicans want to bitch about the border, not actually do something about it. And you guys are falling for it hook line and sinker.
 
ApeEater said:
Yes, it's much better now.

Compromising is thinking Trump's executive orders will fix anything. If it's going to be fixed, it MUST be fixed legislatively. What's the harm in passing a not-quite-perfect law now if you think you can also pass a perfect law later? If you don't think you can pass a perfect law later, what's the harm in passing a not-quite-perfect law now? Where's the downside to action? We can all clearly see the downside to inaction.
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What’s the point of passing laws if they are not enforced?
 
rockota said:
What’s the point of passing laws if they are not enforced?
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sigh I assume you're not going to bother quoting any laws, regulations, statistics, or anything else you've required of me in this thread, that I've provided every single time...

So instead I'll ask:
What's the point of voting if you don't care if they pass laws to change things?
 
ApeEater said:
sigh I assume you're not going to bother quoting any laws, regulations, statistics, or anything else you've required of me in this thread, that I've provided every single time...

So instead I'll ask:
What's the point of voting if you don't care if they pass laws to change things?
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About the same point as waiting until an election is about to happen and pretending to care enough to finally do something 3 1/2 years later, while the VP border czar still doesn't care enough to do anything.
 
your TDS wont let you see anything, it is silly at this point. everything on the border was brought on by tater heads actions. throwing more money at it will fix nothing. mass deportation is the only fix.
 
Filthy McChevy said:
About the same point as waiting until an election is about to happen and pretending to care enough to finally do something 3 1/2 years later, while the VP border czar still doesn't care enough to do anything.
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Yes, we've established that we all agree the democrats suck.

You guys just seem to think the republicans are going to save us, and I've proven over and over again that they have less than zero interest in actually doing so.
 
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