I wonder how Trail Ready feels about those wheels?
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Beadlock wheels out there?
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YotaAtieToo
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Searched, didn't see any mention of the Icon Rebound PROs yet. We've got them on a co-worker's Gladiator. Simple in design, pretty much a modified version of old school Drag and Sand wheels where people were using screws to anchor the tire bead, except the way Icon does it, it doesn't F-up the tire bead.
They are also lighter and cheaper than a traditional beadlock. My only complaint is no sacrificial rash ring, though Icon is working on a version with a rash ring.
Out playing around at the local ORV park with 3 psi in the tires:
Whoever is in that video is even more annoying than that new guy working on a pos Toyota in a carport
Thats an interesting idea. One thing you didn't touch on is that it doesn't prevent the tire from spinning on the wheel like a regular beadlock does. Although I don't think many modern radials have that issue. The last drill screw beadlocks I helped do were my buddies 33 baja claws on steel wheels. The screws eliminated blown beads, but leaked like crazy and when snow wheelin at low pressure, the tires would spin on the wheels. The icon design should eliminate leaks, but certain tires will spin on the wheel. cough iroks cough
Now, I realize they aren't marketing these at hardcore guys running 1-3 lbs for snow. But more to compete with the method bead grips or whatever as a middle ground between full beadlocks and nothing, which I think they did a good job at.
Although, I still say duct tape on a regular wheel is just as effective as either of those wheels.
YotaAtieToo
Thick skull
I see the resemblance also, but on the other hand, it's not exactly a super unique design. I feel like weld had a similar non beadlock wheel back in the day?
chaplinfj60
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I love the rectangle ish ports. Mine are in route…., can’t wait.Got my sidetracked beadlocks this morning. Pretty impressed with the overall quality and they look great.
subybaja
E. Spengler
Searched, didn't see any mention of the Icon Rebound PROs yet. We've got them on a co-worker's Gladiator. Simple in design, pretty much a modified version of old school Drag and Sand wheels where people were using screws to anchor the tire bead, except the way Icon does it, it doesn't F-up the tire bead.
They are also lighter and cheaper than a traditional beadlock. My only complaint is no sacrificial rash ring, though Icon is working on a version with a rash ring.
Out playing around at the local ORV park with 3 psi in the tires:
Brilliant.
Now, how about another set of screws on the other bead?
94toytruck
Eastcoast crawler
Probably the same way Robby Gordon felt about KMC copying his wheels
94toytruck
Eastcoast crawler
Searched, didn't see any mention of the Icon Rebound PROs yet. We've got them on a co-worker's Gladiator. Simple in design, pretty much a modified version of old school Drag and Sand wheels where people were using screws to anchor the tire bead, except the way Icon does it, it doesn't F-up the tire bead.
They are also lighter and cheaper than a traditional beadlock. My only complaint is no sacrificial rash ring, though Icon is working on a version with a rash ring.
Out playing around at the local ORV park with 3 psi in the tires:
I like the idea but why not both beads?
KMC wheels make the wheels for RG and has since like 2015....Probably the same way Robby Gordon felt about KMC copying his wheels
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YotaAtieToo
Thick skull
I thought that too, but who do you think theyre targeting? Probably not guys with buggies on 43s Or whatever.
It also looks like they made the wheel a lot thicker in that area, when you add in the bolt heads, I can see how you might run into clearance issues with brakes on newer vehicles where standard 17s are the bare minimum that fit the calipers.
I wonder if newer factory aluminum wheels have enough meat in them to do a diy version of this?
I run these on my DD/weekend warrior 96 4runner on 35s. I like to go super low in the snow to keep up with 40-42s and have had good luck so far, but a little extra assurance would be nice.
I thought there might be extra meat there because of where the wms is, but it looks like it's pretty normal. Would really suck to crack a wheel in half
So, back to duct tape
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It probably depends on the thickness of the tire bead. A thicker bead will get pinched tighter than a thinner bead.
But, I gotta say we we out crawling around for a couple hours at 3 psi and never even heard a burp.
The market is the new rigs, JLs, JTs, Broncos etc. That's where the money is, that's where you spend your marketing dollars.
Walk before you run.
I think the more important thing is to get them to do a replaceable rash ring first.
Plus, rolling an inner bead is fairly rare, that should be down the list aways.
YotaAtieToo
Thick skull
I've ran 3 different sets of "modern" radials (ie: falkens, pats, kenda, not iroks or ssrs) on the stock 4runner wheels I posted, down to 2-3 psi with out an issue knock on wood
Throw a set of bias 39.5" iroks or many other interco tires, on those, and you'll be spinning tires at 2-3 psi in the snow. You'll also be blowing inner beads like crazy when they leak out from burping. But, that problem exists with single beadlocks also.
Exactly, which is why nothing I posted above is really relevant.
Theyre also super easy to seat when you have an outter lock. Done it with the smallest cheapest compressors with no issues.
Do you think there is enough room on the inner bead for them?
This reminds me, I feel like Corey Young made a set of 20" beadlocks with basically the same idea. I'm curious if he's had issues with the tire spinning.
subybaja
E. Spengler
Those screw-beads remind me of B.A.D. Wheels, which seem to have gone away.
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B.A.D Eklipse 17 - Bead Lock Wheels
Until recently, all single bead lock wheels adhered to a common format whereby the outer bead of the tire is sandwiched between two flat flanges, which is then
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I run less then 1 psi and no slippage. These are 20", also have a set of 16.5s that are the same way. 1/4" fine grade 8 bolts with sealant, inside bead done as well.
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Anything wheel pros, like KMC especially are junk. The company sucks, doesn’t stand behind the product or care about clients.
My last KMC wheels looked like blems. Thin paint, bubbles in them, poor machining, and I bent 3 of 6 in the first few months. KMC is not a company, just a line of wheels from wheel pros with no customer support.
I wouldn’t run free KMC’s they would devalue a non running XJ
My last KMC wheels looked like blems. Thin paint, bubbles in them, poor machining, and I bent 3 of 6 in the first few months. KMC is not a company, just a line of wheels from wheel pros with no customer support.
I wouldn’t run free KMC’s they would devalue a non running XJ
Those screw-beads remind me of B.A.D. Wheels, which seem to have gone away.
B.A.D Eklipse 17 - Bead Lock Wheels
Until recently, all single bead lock wheels adhered to a common format whereby the outer bead of the tire is sandwiched between two flat flanges, which is then
I guess those ended up being a B.A.D. idea.
I saw alot of cracked and broken KMC wheels in short course SxS racing the year I raced. The only ones I've never heard anything bad about are the forged wheels but they are stupidly expensive and only come is a stupid width/offset thats useless for anything other than a desert car.
I pulled the trigger on a set of sidetracked for the new buggy build. Overall they are pretty nice. I will get my 43s mounted this week.
Fit and finish is good, packaging was top notch. Inner lip is nice and thick, safety bead looks bigger than my black rhinos.
Fit and finish is good, packaging was top notch. Inner lip is nice and thick, safety bead looks bigger than my black rhinos.
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chaplinfj60
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i got the same ones and i am super happy bare aluminum though
YotaAtieToo
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What's going on with 2 sets of holes? Are 1 set helicoiled?
one set has the steel inserts for the ring bolts and the second set is for when the first set fucks up.
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I got the round hole last year. They've held up good thus far.
chaplinfj60
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and i have toyed with getting part of them powder coated but in the end i will leave raw. love the rectangle holes.
and the crazy part its not that much more money to these vice steel wheels and diy beadlocks. no brainer for me....
and the crazy part its not that much more money to these vice steel wheels and diy beadlocks. no brainer for me....
YotaAtieToo
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one set has the steel inserts for the ring bolts and the second set is for when the first set fucks up.
Inserts is pretty awesome, especially for how cheap they are.
The other set of holes is larger and would need inserts installed?
You're welcome
If I end with 17s, I'm getting these exact wheels.
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any chance someone could post a picture of the safety (inner) bead? my 43 SX like to pop off the inner bead so i'm interested in the amount of grip there. thanks
Inserts is pretty awesome, especially for how cheap they are.
The other set of holes is larger and would need inserts installed?
You're welcome
If I end with 17s, I'm getting these exact wheels.
Yes the second set is tapped for the steel insert, but no insert installed. The steel inserts are actually 3/8-16 instead of metric. Ill measure the empty holes this evening. They look like 1/2-13 but I will confirm that. I will also thread in the socket head cap screws and see if they are flush with the ring or sit below the lip.
chaplinfj60
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i can tonight when i get home, mine are still in the box so it will be easy