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Beadlock wheels out there?

Depends on wheels/tires. 4 wraps with methods and treps still seated at 15psi.
 
Zg86 said:
Depends on wheels/tires. 4 wraps with methods and treps still seated at 15psi.
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I totally get that...makes sense. What I don't get is how'd you land on 4 wraps for that combo? Is it just trial and error or is there a method to the madness?
 
Zg86 said:
Depends on wheels/tires. 4 wraps with methods and treps still seated at 15psi.
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Eeeeeeww, that's a lot of tape!

I feel like Trep's and Iroks were the worst I ever had. Iroks would fall off my Allieds at 15psi.
 
94toytruck said:
Eeeeeeww, that's a lot of tape!

I feel like Trep's and Iroks were the worst I ever had. Iroks would fall off my Allieds at 15psi.
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My 39.5 iroks were terrible on old school steel trail readys. Pull the cores and just step on the inner bead to unseat it:homer:

I don't know how to figure out how much tape besides trial and error. I've had tires seat hard at 20+ psi with zero tape, then the mentioned iroks that didn't even make a slight pop. I did read about someone who destroyed a tire trying to seat it with too many wraps.

Also HF tape wraps are like 4:1 of gorilla tape :laughing:
 
YotaAtieToo said:
My 39.5 iroks were terrible on old school steel trail readys. Pull the cores and just step on the inner bead to unseat it:homer:

I don't know how to figure out how much tape besides trial and error. I've had tires seat hard at 20+ psi with zero tape, then the mentioned iroks that didn't even make a slight pop. I did read about someone who destroyed a tire trying to seat it with too many wraps.

Also HF tape wraps are like 4:1 of gorilla tape :laughing:
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A few of us all had 39.5 Iroks around here a the same time with issues and different wheels.

I just did 2 wraps cause I never lost beads with my treps but they would burp. I have one now on my RR I might have screwed up on and mounted it flipped of how they were. It'll seep some if I get it just right, not sure if it's cause the back bead was clamped before or there's damage to that tire since they were used. Of course it's all torn up on the sidewall too.

I always use black gorilla tape.
 
94toytruck said:
A few of us all had 39.5 Iroks around here a the same time with issues and different wheels.

I just did 2 wraps cause I never lost beads with my treps but they would burp. I have one now on my RR I might have screwed up on and mounted it flipped of how they were. It'll seep some if I get it just right, not sure if it's cause the back bead was clamped before or there's damage to that tire since they were used. Of course it's all torn up on the sidewall too.

I always use black gorilla tape.
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Were you guys using the 15" version of the 39.5 Irok bias? I had the 39.5s on 17" TrailReady steelies and never had issues with burping or losing an inner bead but they were horrible tires in any side hill situation. D range 8 ply rating on the sidewalls meant even after being broken in, they still didn't flex very well. Decently sticky compound though.
 
Sean said:
Were you guys using the 15" version of the 39.5 Irok bias? I had the 39.5s on 17" TrailReady steelies and never had issues with burping or losing an inner bead but they were horrible tires in any side hill situation. D range 8 ply rating on the sidewalls meant even after being broken in, they still didn't flex very well. Decently sticky compound though.
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I had 17's, cdemart2 had 17's and I think the one other guys had 16's. I do know a few that used 15's with no issue. I had 17x8 Allieds and if a nat farted 10 feet away I'd loose a bead.
 
Sean said:
I totally get that...makes sense. What I don't get is how'd you land on 4 wraps for that combo? Is it just trial and error or is there a method to the madness?
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I knew treps were loose on the inners just from experience, and after seeing how small the method inner safety bead is, so i did 4 wraps, if they start to burp once they break in, ill take them down and go to 8. Right now im running 2psi without issue but they are still new and stiff as hell.

In short, SWAG
 
It all depends on the wheel and tire combo. Some wheels have a different safety bead machined in and some tires have a thicker bead.

Maybe we should have a thread on what combos are known to work well together?
 
Just came across this thread and was really surprised i didn't have an account on here yet, i remember when things moved over here from pirate. Must have never completed that transition. Thanks for all the feedback on the beadlocks, I really appreciate it, both the good and the bad. Always looking to improve the wheels where needed.

I noticed a few comments regarding backspacing, What lug patterns and backspacing would you guys like to see? the minimum run quantity is now 20 wheels per spec, so i can entertain other options if there is demand. Also looking to expand our 20" wheel offering to 8 lug patterns, so if you have any feedback on backspacing for those i'd be interested in that as well.

For the smooth ring on the TD wheels, I've added that as an option when ordering for black and machined wheels. I don't currently have the grey titanium finish available for the smooth ring, but will add them later on. If anyone wants a smooth black or polished ring with the titanium finished wheels i can make that happen.

Thanks again for all the support!
 
sidetracked said:
Just came across this thread and was really surprised i didn't have an account on here yet, i remember when things moved over here from pirate. Must have never completed that transition. Thanks for all the feedback on the beadlocks, I really appreciate it, both the good and the bad. Always looking to improve the wheels where needed.

I noticed a few comments regarding backspacing, What lug patterns and backspacing would you guys like to see? the minimum run quantity is now 20 wheels per spec, so i can entertain other options if there is demand. Also looking to expand our 20" wheel offering to 8 lug patterns, so if you have any feedback on backspacing for those i'd be interested in that as well.

For the smooth ring on the TD wheels, I've added that as an option when ordering for black and machined wheels. I don't currently have the grey titanium finish available for the smooth ring, but will add them later on. If anyone wants a smooth black or polished ring with the titanium finished wheels i can make that happen.

Thanks again for all the support!
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thanks
 
sidetracked said:
Just came across this thread and was really surprised i didn't have an account on here yet, i remember when things moved over here from pirate. Must have never completed that transition. Thanks for all the feedback on the beadlocks, I really appreciate it, both the good and the bad. Always looking to improve the wheels where needed.

I noticed a few comments regarding backspacing, What lug patterns and backspacing would you guys like to see? the minimum run quantity is now 20 wheels per spec, so i can entertain other options if there is demand. Also looking to expand our 20" wheel offering to 8 lug patterns, so if you have any feedback on backspacing for those i'd be interested in that as well.

For the smooth ring on the TD wheels, I've added that as an option when ordering for black and machined wheels. I don't currently have the grey titanium finish available for the smooth ring, but will add them later on. If anyone wants a smooth black or polished ring with the titanium finished wheels i can make that happen.

Thanks again for all the support!
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Im still grinding on mine and they are holding up well
 

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sidetracked said:
Just came across this thread and was really surprised i didn't have an account on here yet, i remember when things moved over here from pirate. Must have never completed that transition. Thanks for all the feedback on the beadlocks, I really appreciate it, both the good and the bad. Always looking to improve the wheels where needed.

I noticed a few comments regarding backspacing, What lug patterns and backspacing would you guys like to see? the minimum run quantity is now 20 wheels per spec, so i can entertain other options if there is demand. Also looking to expand our 20" wheel offering to 8 lug patterns, so if you have any feedback on backspacing for those i'd be interested in that as well.

For the smooth ring on the TD wheels, I've added that as an option when ordering for black and machined wheels. I don't currently have the grey titanium finish available for the smooth ring, but will add them later on. If anyone wants a smooth black or polished ring with the titanium finished wheels i can make that happen.

Thanks again for all the support!
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Have any intrest in doing some super deep backspacing 17s for the portal bronco/toyota/jhf market? I could be into going in on a run with you. Also have a portal bronco do dial in dimensions.
 
94toytruck said:
Eeeeeeww, that's a lot of tape!

I feel like Trep's and Iroks were the worst I ever had. Iroks would fall off my Allieds at 15psi.
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Now that they are broken in the beads come off at 6 psi going down a gravel road at 10 mph. Ive got 8 wraps now too. Currently shopping internal beadlocks. Probably gonna go with the inner air locks since coyotes got stupid expensive.
 
sidetracked said:
Just came across this thread and was really surprised i didn't have an account on here yet, i remember when things moved over here from pirate. Must have never completed that transition. Thanks for all the feedback on the beadlocks, I really appreciate it, both the good and the bad. Always looking to improve the wheels where needed.

I noticed a few comments regarding backspacing, What lug patterns and backspacing would you guys like to see? the minimum run quantity is now 20 wheels per spec, so i can entertain other options if there is demand. Also looking to expand our 20" wheel offering to 8 lug patterns, so if you have any feedback on backspacing for those i'd be interested in that as well.

For the smooth ring on the TD wheels, I've added that as an option when ordering for black and machined wheels. I don't currently have the grey titanium finish available for the smooth ring, but will add them later on. If anyone wants a smooth black or polished ring with the titanium finished wheels i can make that happen.

Thanks again for all the support!
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I struggled to find a 20” 8 lug beadlock with 3-3.5” backspace. I ended up buying the only option I could find with a 3.61 bs. I would think less back space would be more common for bigger wheels because bigger wheels (usually) = bigger tires = necessity for more clearance from links/frame/body etc. 🤷‍♂️
 
Home_brewd said:
I struggled to find a 20” 8 lug beadlock with 3-3.5” backspace. I ended up buying the only option I could find with a 3.61 bs. I would think less back space would be more common for bigger wheels because bigger wheels (usually) = bigger tires = necessity for more clearance from links/frame/body etc. 🤷‍♂️
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wide axles, more backspace, less scrub
 
sidetracked said:
I noticed a few comments regarding backspacing, What lug patterns and backspacing would you guys like to see? the minimum run quantity is now 20 wheels per spec, so i can entertain other options if there is demand. Also looking to expand our 20" wheel offering to 8 lug patterns, so if you have any feedback on backspacing for those i'd be interested in that as well.

Thanks again for all the support!
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Good to see you on the board M! :smokin:

I want a set of 5x5.5-20's but I'll probably hold off until I get a set of tires.

A friend of mine just bought a set of the forged and is very happy with them.
 
sidetracked said:
Just came across this thread and was really surprised i didn't have an account on here yet, i remember when things moved over here from pirate. Must have never completed that transition. Thanks for all the feedback on the beadlocks, I really appreciate it, both the good and the bad. Always looking to improve the wheels where needed.

I noticed a few comments regarding backspacing, What lug patterns and backspacing would you guys like to see? the minimum run quantity is now 20 wheels per spec, so i can entertain other options if there is demand. Also looking to expand our 20" wheel offering to 8 lug patterns, so if you have any feedback on backspacing for those i'd be interested in that as well.

For the smooth ring on the TD wheels, I've added that as an option when ordering for black and machined wheels. I don't currently have the grey titanium finish available for the smooth ring, but will add them later on. If anyone wants a smooth black or polished ring with the titanium finished wheels i can make that happen.

Thanks again for all the support!
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Forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but can't you get multiple back spacing options with one casting, then it's just a matter of machining it more or less off the wms boss?


I also think deeper back spaced 6 lug would be a good idea since most of the "6 lug money" is new broncos, and late model ifs Toyotas.

Like 2big bronco said, making some wheels for portal rigs could be a good niche, 6"+ bs wheels are super expensive. Like $1000 ea?
 
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2big bronco said:
Have any intrest in doing some super deep backspacing 17s for the portal bronco/toyota/jhf market? I could be into going in on a run with you. Also have a portal bronco do dial in dimensions.
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Yeah I'd be interested, Let me check on a few things on my side and i'll get back to you!
 
YotaAtieToo said:
Forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but can't you get multiple back spacing options with one casting, then it's just a matter of machining it more or less off the wms boss?


I also think deeper back spaced 6 lug would be a good idea since most of the "6 lug money" is new broncos, and late model ifs Toyotas.

Like 2big bronco said, making some wheels for portal rigs could be a good niche, 6"+ bs wheels are super expensive. Like $1000 ea?
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Yeah they can be machined for different BS with the same casting.

Regarding the new broncos/toyotas, makes sense!

Thanks!
Morgan
 
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