Acceptable or destroying water supply?

[SomeGuyFromOlympia]

out here, they fucking run from across the store as soon as they hear watery sound

take the lid off and send it then

 

[rockota]

More taxes will solve the problem.


Speaking of… what do water treatment plants do with the waste?

 

[Ranchtruck]

Also interesting to see how many lazy shitbags make their antifreeze/oil mix someone else's problem instead of either separating it themselves or not mixing it in the first place.

It's a pain in the ass to keep draining coolant and water off the bottom of the waste oil furnace tank. Then you have to pay to get rid of that instead of the oil having useful value. Or just dump it down your well like 30% of the folks here are advocating for.

 

[M92PV4U]

Also interesting to see how many lazy shitbags make their antifreeze/oil mix someone else's problem instead of either separating it themselves or not mixing it in the first place.

It's a pain in the ass to keep draining coolant and water off the bottom of the waste oil furnace tank. Then you have to pay to get rid of that instead of the oil having useful value. Or just dump it down your well like 30% of the folks here are advocating for.

 

[bad zuki]

More taxes will solve the problem.


Speaking of… what do water treatment plants do with the waste?

They process it to “safe” levels and dump it back into the environment!!! Because processing that much water to a pure level would cost too much. And dumping that many chemicals into a river is illegal, unless it’s in the name of waste water.

 

[Provience]

Uhhh... we are.

Take it up with the rivers and streams we base our infrastructure around

 

[IGT]

Not trolling.

The planet is a closed system.

If this was true we would not be getting any sunlight or energy from that light.

We really don’t know what all escapes our closed loop “planet” either. I believe we proved helium escapes our atmosphere.

I do get where your going with your opinion on pollution/dilution and good luck on your endeavor to fix it.

 

[Filthy McChevy]

Is it heavy metals or head injuries that cause my memory loss? Who cares, keep welding

Past Lead intake baby. Orl ain't shit.

 

[fordguy]

take the lid off and send it then

 

[baldduck1974]

Then drink the used fucking motor oil waterhead.

What about all the man made pharmaceuticals dumped everyday, i have drank used motor oil when i was a kid, 46 years later an im still here.

 

[M92PV4U]

What about all the man made pharmaceuticals dumped everyday,

They probably shouldn't be dumped where they can enter a potable water source either.

i have drank used motor oil when i was a kid, 46 years later an im still here.

I've accidentally drank gasoline, diesel and antifreeze. I didn't get sick or die, but I'm sure that it didn't do me any favors .

 

[Slander]

City used to spread oil on the dirt roads to keep dust down when I was growing uo

That explains a lot

A Town, a Flood, and Superfund: Looking Back at the Times Beach Disaster Nearly 40 Years Later | US EPA

Times Beach, Missouri, was the site of one of the worst environmental disasters in our nation’s history.

www.epa.gov

Cliffs: dude turns town into a Superfund site by spreading dioxin laden waste oil all over the streets for dust control.

 

[Provience]

That explains a lot

A Town, a Flood, and Superfund: Looking Back at the Times Beach Disaster Nearly 40 Years Later | US EPA

Times Beach, Missouri, was the site of one of the worst environmental disasters in our nation’s history.

www.epa.gov

Cliffs: dude turns town into a Superfund site by spreading dioxin laden waste oil all over the streets for dust control.

Add to the list of how many superrund sites that will never get action or attention in any way?

 

[Slander]

Add to the list of how many superrund sites that will never get action or attention in any way?

This is one the EPA beats their dick over

 

[baldduck1974]

I dont agree with dumping used/new oil or fuels, or antifreeze on the ground. But for anyone that thinks its the end of the world if it happens might as well join the climate change and EVs groups then.

 

[JNHEscher]

That explains a lot

A Town, a Flood, and Superfund: Looking Back at the Times Beach Disaster Nearly 40 Years Later | US EPA

Times Beach, Missouri, was the site of one of the worst environmental disasters in our nation’s history.

www.epa.gov

Cliffs: dude turns town into a Superfund site by spreading dioxin laden waste oil all over the streets for dust control.

I bet there's an article around about the gasoline spill that filled people's water wells.

 

[grumpy356]

I do get where you’re going with your opinion on pollution/dilution and good luck on your endeavor to fix it.

It’s not really an opinion, it’s more along the lines of science, but whatever.

You have a mass of water that is considered polluted at 10,000 ppm. And in safe or levels seen in natural occurring conditions at 1,000 ppm. To get to that level you dilute the polluted water until it gets to 1000ppm. If you never realize that’s what happens… shrug ….

Same with nasty fumes coming off a petrochemical process. You flare what you can and you have devices that mix in clean air till the parts you’re measuring are diluted enough it meets the clean air standards .

I dont agree with dumping used/new oil or fuels, or antifreeze on the ground. But for anyone that thinks its the end of the world if it happens might as well join the climate change and EVs groups then.

i wasn’t talking about dumping on the ground exactly, it was more in the manner Popular Mechanics recommended in the past?

 

[grumpy356]

Ok…

What is your predictions of the long term effects of pumping toxic waste into salt domes???

 

[SomeGuyFromOlympia]

.gov tell you that quart of oil will kill the environment
meanwhile, every single country road is built like this and is magically doesn't hurt anything

 

[Texas97]

More taxes will solve the problem.


Speaking of… what do water treatment plants do with the waste?

They process it to “safe” levels and dump it back into the environment!!! Because processing that much water to a pure level would cost too much. And dumping that many chemicals into a river is illegal, unless it’s in the name of waste water.

after it passes the last UV purifier, its dumped into the river where its much cleaned than the actual river water, until the natural water contaminates the clean water and then you start again

 

[arse_sidewards]

Cliffs: EPA unilaterally declares town uninhabitable, pays off opposition with money stolen from use, takes the land for their own use

Fixed

 

[gunracer1]

after it passes the last UV purifier, its dumped into the river where its much cleaned than the actual river water, until the natural water contaminates the clean water and then you start again

houston drinks dallas wastewater. they dump it back in the Trinity.

 

[bad zuki]

after it passes the last UV purifier, its dumped into the river where its much cleaned than the actual river water, until the natural water contaminates the clean water and then you start again

Yes, because that kills everything. Thanks to the Dupount family, The fish around here are lined with Teflon™.....
Not to mention whatever merek or the others are dumping in to the rivers, because it's "below EPA limits". That stuff adds up in the long term.

 

[Texas97]

Yes, because that kills everything. Thanks to the Dupount family, The fish around here are lined with Teflon™.....
Not to mention whatever merek or the others are dumping in to the rivers, because it's "below EPA limits". That stuff adds up in the long term.

chemical companies are not the same as a wastewater plant. there's multiple steps in treating waste. there is some chlorination that does happen but its less than the amount used in any municipal water system lines.

the water coming out of a treatment plant, one thats modern and well operated is clean. the last step is the UV purifier pass.

ive been in and through several treatment plants. its not glorious, but its necessary

 

[Texas97]

houston drinks dallas wastewater. they dump it back in the Trinity.

i didn't realize Houston got water from the Trinity River for drinking. i thought ot was all underground

 

[bgaidan]

chemical companies are not the same as a wastewater plant. there's multiple steps in treating waste. there is some chlorination that does happen but its less than the amount used in any municipal water system lines.

the water coming out of a treatment plant, one thats modern and well operated is clean. the last step is the UV purifier pass.

ive been in and through several treatment plants. its not glorious, but its necessary

I used to work for an environmental company that owns several industrial treatment plants. They would take industrial waste water and treat it to an acceptable level and then pass it on downstream to the city's plant for final treatment and discharge. They did pretty substantial testing of everything that came in before it could be unloaded as well as before anything was discharged.

While I was there, there was in incident where customer slipped in a load of 1,4 Dioxin laden shit and they didn't regularly test for it so it made it through treatment, to and through the city's plant and was later discovered downstream downstream in the river. All kinds of drama, articles in the paper and on the news. Apparently "we" had caught it notified the city and they kept a lid on it until another party found it during regular testing in the river. All kinds of finger pointing and drama. The company had to hire a PR firm for that one.

Since that event, they installed a very $$ RO system that can remove all the tasty PFAS shit. Of course, the shit that gets removed in the RO eventually gets solidified and shipped up to a hazmat landfill in VA. Guess who has the contract to treat that leachate from that landfill? It's like a perpetual money machine!

 

[bad zuki]

chemical companies are not the same as a wastewater plant. there's multiple steps in treating waste. there is some chlorination that does happen but its less than the amount used in any municipal water system lines.

the water coming out of a treatment plant, one thats modern and well operated is clean. the last step is the UV purifier pass.

ive been in and through several treatment plants. its not glorious, but its necessary

Alot of different factories use the water here too. Poultry, Manufacturing, Coors, Things still slip into the supply.

Since that event, they installed a very $$ RO system that can remove all the tasty PFAS shit. Of course, the shit that gets removed in the RO eventually gets solidified and shipped up to a hazmat landfill in VA. Guess who has the contract to treat that leachate from that landfill? It's like a perpetual money machine!

And we will bury it for the next generation, and the next generation etc. It's okay, it was moved outside of the enviroment.

 

[Levigarrett76]

.gov tell you that quart of oil will kill the environment
meanwhile, every single country road is built like this and is magically doesn't hurt anything

Reminds me of concrete washout pits

 

[junkytj]

They process it to “safe” levels and dump it back into the environment!!! Because processing that much water to a pure level would cost too much. And dumping that many chemicals into a river is illegal, unless it’s in the name of waste water.

What?

Every water plant I've ever seen takes their sludge and thickens it up to be able to pass a paint filter test and hauls it to a landfill.

The only chemicals I know of wastewater plants use are metal salts to remove nutrients and they use as little of it as they can get away with because it's expensive.

 

[bgaidan]

Alot of different factories use the water here too. Poultry, Manufacturing, Coors, Things still slip into the supply.


And we will bury it for the next generation, and the next generation etc. It's okay, it was moved outside of the enviroment.

Sure, but lined landfills are magnitudes better than just burying it or dumping it in the ground. The biggest issue it with the landfill owners/designers making their cells way to big and the amount of leachate created while they're in operation. Once they're capped and sealed, leachate production drops significantly and relatively quickly approaches zero.