I agree. I had to recheck it a couple times because I have some machining to do to hybridize a pair of lopped-off long side tubes onto a 14b center for a rear steer build, and the only dimensions that made any sense in the whole project were tube OD's.Confirmation says our tools are fine.Just seems like an odd size tube.
That stuff so cheap it's almost not worth mailing costs
None of the three I've looked inside have a larger ID along the way, just normal straight tube ID.
The Sterling 10.5"??
Well thank you for pointing out my ignorance. Here I thought they had Dana 60’s.
Disregard my ******ed question.
No worries. I just wasn't following and was making sure I understood your question. Some of the duallys (what's the plural of dually?..ies?) still run Dana M300s (similar to the Dana 80)...and I think M275s and Sterling 10.5s for SRW on 2017+. I think the Dana 80 ended with 2016 models.Well thank you for pointing out my ignorance. Here I thought they had Dana 60’s.
Beyond stupid, Ford. You already went the D50 route....and had to go back to the 60. You made the 60 even stronger in '17...now making it back similar to 1999? WTF?
Idk for sure, a quick rockauto search for a 2018 F350 6.7 shows both a regular reverse rotation 10" gear set for a hp60 and a motive gear set listed as "short pinion" with the ring gear diameter spec'd at 10.08" which is 256mm
Aren't they the same thing? Like people still call them Dana 60s (though the 2017+ have the 10" ring gear and beefier/shorter pinion)...but they're technically now M256s?
The two gear sets I looked at on rockauto are definitely two different axles, one being the classic HP 60 with the long pinion and the other being the advantek axle with the short pinion, but yeah rockauto just refers to them both as D60 even though advantek is completely different.
Maybe they figured the guys with XL trucks actually use them
Thanks for the clarification. I'm going to delete my speculative comments to avoid someone reading the thread and coming to an erroneous conclusion.
Because women, and men who are no more capable than women. Fords are the only vehicle left with selectable hubs. Soon they will be like GM Dodge Toyota etc that just spin the parts all the time so that women and girly men don’t have to get their nails dirty touching a knob.
My guess would be a combo of reducing costs and improving fuel economy and steering feel when in 2wd, not unlike the often-problematic axle disconnect that almost everybody but Ford did at various times in the late 80's to early 2000's.
So you think it would improve fuel economy? I don’t see that. Even on an open diff, that rotation has to continue either to the front driveshaft or the other axle. My guess is it would do both to some degree.
When I ordered my '19, it took me six dealerships to actually do the deed (for various reasons; it ultimately came down to four who refused to try to order it even with a build sheet from the website in hand, and the last two were just me price shopping), and one of the ones along the way told me that manual hubs (which were a zero dollar option online at the time) were discontinued that year, because Ford had too many warranty problems with people who didn't know how to use them and couldn't figure out how to operate a floor shift transfer case, so they were shifting it into 4wd at speed with the hubs unlocked and grinding stuff up.
Vs both unlocked, no. Should be worse.
