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Had 3 or 4 pre COVID and moving out of state, those all evaporated in like a week of each other, still can't wrap my head around wtf actually happened there.
 
Had 3 or 4 pre COVID and moving out of state, those all evaporated in like a week of each other, still can't wrap my head around wtf actually happened there.
Had 3 or 4 pre COVID and moving out of state, those all evaporated in like a week of each other, still can't wrap my head around wtf actually happened there.
Luckily my friend group didn't change really at all because of Covid, we were in Moab when it hit and had stopped at Copper Mtn on the way west to hang out with other friends and we all ended up partying together for like 2 weeks after we got back, we were the plague rats:laughing:
 
Had 3 or 4 pre COVID and moving out of state, those all evaporated in like a week of each other, still can't wrap my head around wtf actually happened there.
I had what I thought was a life long friendship dissolved over the Covid shit. I have dropped what I was doing to go help him more than once. He had done the same for me.

He told me I should get fired for not taking the vaccine and that if I got sick he hoped I wouldn’t be allowed in the emergency room. We also argued about the mask mandate bs and kids going back to school from lockdown. I don’t Hope anything bad happens to him or his family. But we won’t dial each-others numbers ever again. I just saw his dad last weekend and he didn’t acknowledge my presence. Fine by me.
 
covid revealed peoples true colors. Lotta surprises :laughing:

I had what I thought was a life long friendship dissolved over the Covid shit. I have dropped what I was doing to go help him more than once. He had done the same for me.

He told me I should get fired for not taking the vaccine and that if I got sick he hoped I wouldn’t be allowed in the emergency room. We also argued about the mask mandate bs and kids going back to school from lockdown. I don’t Hope anything bad happens to him or his family. But we won’t dial each-others numbers ever again. I just saw his dad last weekend and he didn’t acknowledge my presence. Fine by me.
It wasn't even directly related to it, it was just weird events that led to friendships getting nuked quick and I still don't necessarily know why. Weird, oh well life goes on! It was like "hey guys I got a new job, I'm moving to NC" then shit went south, weird.
 
I had what I thought was a life long friendship dissolved over the Covid shit. I have dropped what I was doing to go help him more than once. He had done the same for me.

He told me I should get fired for not taking the vaccine and that if I got sick he hoped I wouldn’t be allowed in the emergency room. We also argued about the mask mandate bs and kids going back to school from lockdown. I don’t Hope anything bad happens to him or his family. But we won’t dial each-others numbers ever again. I just saw his dad last weekend and he didn’t acknowledge my presence. Fine by me.
If I hadn't lost my so-called family in 2009 and then the rest in 2019, they would have dissolved during the covid vax debate anyway.

If I had been healthy enough to travel back to see my grandmother before she died, my mother and her family wouldn't have let me see her due to not being vaxed.
 
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It wasn't even directly related to it, it was just weird events that led to friendships getting nuked quick and I still don't necessarily know why. Weird, oh well life goes on!
Sometimes people just move on. I've got 1 friend left from high school that I actually still talk to. They live about 400 miles away though. 2 more who didn't go to my high school but I knew about that time and remained good friends with. Everyone else just sort of went their different way except for that small core group that I still love to visit once or twice a year.

Then I had some really good college friends, but damn, they got boring when they got older with families. I've shown up for things they do maybe once a year, but it's just sitting around in someone's back yard drinking beer talking about crap like what SUV they're gonna buy or how they mow their lawn... Not my thing.

Some of my truest friends are people I met through moto/bikes/wheeling we can not see each other for years and pick right back up where we left off. Lucky for me, I've got a few that live close by.

These days I've got some "dad friends" too, that are basically parents of people my kids hang out with or does sports with. They're alright, but it feels about as transient as the previous groups that pretty much happened through proximity and not shared interest.
 
It wasn't even directly related to it, it was just weird events that led to friendships getting nuked quick and I still don't necessarily know why. Weird, oh well life goes on! It was like "hey guys I got a new job, I'm moving to NC" then shit went south, weird.
I lost what I thought was a very good and supportive friendship from 14yrs old to 30yrs old. I couldn't make her wedding in SF because my then controlling bf wouldn't' drive me to SF for her wedding. I had been down and missed a week of work due to endometriosis pain and wasn't able to get there myself.

When she called me to find out why I wasn't there she didn't care for my 'excuse' and that was that. Until an email reconnection years later where she claimed to know my family history better than I do. "My mom told me blah blah....." She had my father's sister and her husband's issues mixed up with my parents' divorce issues. When I tried to explain she responded with, "I can't be friends with someone in this much denial."

This girl saved me from my mother's neglect when I had mono at 16 so I felt a huge connection.


People change. Being happy requires changing with what happens.
 
Money is a great shit test. Lend what you can afford to lose and see which so-called friends are real.
I don't think money makes the friendship real or not. But it sure as hell can end one.
Regardless of money, tools, cars, your woman :flipoff2:, lending something to someone to test them means you aren't the real friend.

In other words, if you have to test your friendship, it isn't one.
 
He told me I should get fired for not taking the vaccine and that if I got sick he hoped I wouldn’t be allowed in the emergency room. We also argued about the mask mandate bs and kids going back to school from lockdown. I don’t Hope anything bad happens to him or his family.
You don't have to, I'll carry it. "I really wish something bad happens to JR4X's previous friend. Please dear higher power show us your mercy and help this man fall into a tank of acid. Spare his family please. AMEN."
 
Not many especially as we get older.
I'm pretty good at fixing AC. Not change out your whole system but if it dies on the hottest day call me, is what I tell everyone that helps me when I call them. All of my friends know. Rarely get calls.
I go one buddy I used to work with. Good dude! He was a brother from another mother. Drove to a different state on a drop of a hat to tow my truck home after it broke down while we were on vacation. I paid for the gas, lunch snacks everything. Then 3 weeks later bought a bunch of BBQ from the place we all love and took it to their house for dinner. Just as appreciation! Same guy will call you and say Awe man I REALLY could use some help. No problem I'll stop by on my way home from work. Get there and he's got another buddy there working on shit and they are bullshitting, or you get there and he's not even there. Likes to waste other peoples time.

Got another buddy. Known him since 5th grade. He bought a house in the next neighborhood over from me. Not mechanical at all doesn't drink. I did brakes on his Explorer, he bugged me for ever about squeeks and shit. Never work on his shit again. He and his wife will go out on Sunday shopping and eat then come over at 6 right when our dinner is just about ready. Won't eat. "We already ate". So annoying. Our shit gets cold while we sit and visit. Not anymore, we sit and eat, they can come sit at the table with us our split. Their choice. This has happened several times. I think they think it's funny.

Got another buddy I used to wheel with. He moved 5 hours away to get away from the city. He has turned GRUMPY! Everything is Fuck the city, Fuck COVID, Bla bla bla. Ok grump dude!

I would dig a hole alongside these dudes!
 
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You don't have to, I'll carry it. "I really wish something bad happens to JR4X's previous friend. Please dear higher power show us your mercy and help this man fall into a tank of acid. Spare his family please. AMEN."
You are a TRUE friend to so many....

God's work you do.
 
I Have 3 best friends, all of them I've known for at least 20 years ( one of them since high school - early '80s), who I regularly interact with. These are people I know that I can rely on 100% and we are always there for each other. I have at least a dozen or more other friends that would probably be there if I needed them but not 100% sure.
 
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You are a TRUE friend to so many....

God's work you do.
I didn't have any friends that went retard with the covid shit. We all agreed on just about everything from day one. The wife (rn) kinda chuckled in the beginning at my vaxx conspiracy "it's just a vaccine, no big deal..." then quickly got real quiet about it. A few months later "uh, our kids aren't getting this". Parents went 60% retard over the vaxx shit and I'm 1 straw away from breaking that camel's back.
 
I’m sure you are well aware, but I’m that guy. 43, still no kids and no real adult life.

That was me at 43. (PS, I think I had a pretty good time, still do)

I had what I thought was a life long friendship dissolved over the Covid shit. I have dropped what I was doing to go help him more than once. He had done the same for me.

He told me I should get fired for not taking the vaccine and that if I got sick he hoped I wouldn’t be allowed in the emergency room. We also argued about the mask mandate bs and kids going back to school from lockdown. I don’t Hope anything bad happens to him or his family. But we won’t dial each-others numbers ever again. I just saw his dad last weekend and he didn’t acknowledge my presence. Fine by me.

That is depressing.


To the OP, I have two and two brothers. My wife would help with the bodies also, so I guess five.

The money thing is not a good test because you need to rate that by what that amount of money means to them. I have a number of friends that would loan me 10 grand without a thought because they are so well off. But people that would loan me serious money to them would be back to the five above.
 
My FIL's best friend of 40 years just died suddenly in his sleep. FIL and my wife are pretty broken up.
It had me thinking about shrinking circles a few days ago.

We all head out from the airfield, fresh and shiny on a sunny morning. We've got our wingmen, and the tower reporting conditions and giving us a heading for the day.
The day wears on, visibility drops, maybe some ice builds up, we lower our speed a little.
As we fly along, occasionally someone peels out of formation, and we think "Huh, that's odd."
The tower stops responding. "Hello, Base? Come in?" Nothing. We've got orders, so we continue.
The enemy starts unloading flak. Our buddies in line get a wing holed, lose a stabilizer. Some adjust and try to keep up, some disappear.
We're past the midpoint. Fuel level says this is a one-way trip.
Where the squadron used to be, there's empty air. Halfway to the horizon are a couple glints heading our way, and faint friendly voices on the radio.
Eventually, this is a solo mission.

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51yo here. 2 good friends, a handful of not-so-good friends. And pretend internet friends.
 
#1 took his own life and that made me feel like I wasn't there for him when he needed me most. Will live with that for the rest of my life.

Any others I kind of have my doubts about because they have kids, so I try to stay out of messes that require other people's help :flipoff2:
 
Any others I kind of have my doubts about because they have kids, so I try to stay out of messes that require other people's help :flipoff2:
People with kids are down to help (I know I am), we just take a little longer to get out the door after the call because we have to kiss everyone goodbye and negotiate when we'll pay back the time to our wives. :beer:
 
I have 6-7 good friends I can count on if I needed them. Two of those are I consider my best friends that I would give my life for.

I had a 30 year friendship I cut off two years ago due to his personality changes towards me. It’s a shame really as we had a great history doing stuff together. I have to say tho that me dropping the ax on it was due to my personality changes as well. I just had enough of his shit. I can’t be around drama queens anymore… I see enough of that here :flipoff2::laughing:

My brother is a total opposite of me, he’s never had any friends or girlfriends for that matter, in his whole life. Any time he’d start having a friendship with someone, he’d start the whole gauging process of keeping track of how many favors he does vs how many he gets in return. It wouldn’t get past a couple favors or what he considered a favor (driving someone somewhere kind of thing! And if he didn’t get something soon in return, he’d bitch up a storm and drive them away. I call him a hermit loner. He has road rage issues and I always think one day he’s gonna go postal. I don’t socialize with him and haven’t for 20 years now.

I think it’s harder finding people who you can trust and have similar likes to develop a good friendship with. Course I don’t get out much anymore so I don’t meet many new people in a setting where that can happen.

I have a wonderful GF that’s not high maintenance or an emotional drama queen which I couldn’t ask for any better.

I’m comfortable living by myself but am glad to have close friends out there. It’s a lonely world and I don’t want to plow through life alone.
 
That bums me out.

To all you guys who say you’ve got none. Did you do that on purpose? As in you want it that way. Don’t have to reciprocate if you’d never ask for help?

If you guys ever end up in the 4 corners area and in need reach out to me. I’ll do what I can without expecting anything and would never hold it over your head like you owed me something. My number is posted on the board, a lot of members here have it. If you want it now just in case pm. I won’t even share the Dick pics you send me with the board :flipoff2:
As you go through life, shit changes. It takes a long time to get to know me because I don't talk much, I listen a ton. You meet people because of circumstances put you together, when shit changes those circumstances that brought you together don't anymore. I'm just a guy you don't know much about at that point. So it's rare when a new friendship lasts.

I had 3 main buddies in Jr. High and High school. One of them got caught up in drugs while I was in the military and he just isn't the same guy anymore even though he got off the drugs. He and I rarely communicate and that's OK with both of us. One of the other ones, I borrowed $20 from when I left for the military because he was a paramedic. I told him I knew if I owed him $20, he would save my life so I could still pay it back. We still talk monthly. We've both been married and divorced and had kids. He's a mean motherfucker and wouldn't help me move, but if I needed something done on the dark side of the law, he'd help me. The other one, we still talk weekly. He actually joined the military and we were stationed together for a while and then later even deployed together with two different units. I couldn't count on him for anything outside the law, but he'd help with about anything else. None of us live anywhere near the other.

I have made pretty decent friends over the years, but what I found is when I divorced, their wives were no longer comfortable with me around or their men around me. Some of it was their wives knew what my ex was up to and didn't say anything and some of it is just they are worried their husbands might get jealous of my lack ties. Either way, those friendships have all evaporated so I'm back to my 2 buddies that are far away. I have made one other friend that would do what the fuck ever for me that I've made as an adult. We've been buddies now since I moved back to the area about 25 years ago I met him at one of my jobs. We got divorced at about the same time so no pressure from his woman.
 
People with kids are down to help (I know I am), we just take a little longer to get out the door after the call because we have to kiss everyone goodbye and negotiate when we'll pay back the time to our wives. :beer:

I question some of these "can't count on him anymore he's dead to me" situations. Not all, but some


"I couldn't get my snowblower to crank on Wednesday at 10am, and he wouldn't leave work to help me. Some fucking friend he is."
 
I question some of these "can't count on him anymore he's dead to me" situations. Not all, but some


"I couldn't get my snowblower to crank on Wednesday at 10am, and he wouldn't leave work to help me. Some fucking friend he is."
yeah, that's why I hate asking others for help. My friends also have their own shit to do. If I'm asking for help, it's gotta be something major.

But for the minor stuff, if I can swing it, I do. These were all actual requests:

"Hey can we take your truck and trailer and go pick up this chevy tahoe two hours away for a project?" Sure!

"Can you help me bleed the brakes on my bike?" Yup!

"I shattered my pelvis riding, can you help me put my recliner in front of my TV since I'm gonna be stuck in it for a while?" Already on the way and we also made you some meals for your fridge.

"Hey we got a permit to raft the grand canyon for a week and need one more person for the boat...." Love to, but no can do.(Saying no to that one physically hurt me).

"Don't go home yet, lets do another shot."- one of my buddies pretty much every week. Sorry man, gotta tuck my kids in to bed.
 
I communicate fairly regularly with 8 to 9 people, dropped the rest out of my life.

Out of those 9 I will say maybe 2 to 3 in case of an emergency/SHTF.

I, like many on here try to do as much as I can by myself, without adding to someones day.

That being said I am that guy that shows up and helps, without asking for anything in return.

Not ideal, but it beats being surrounded by a bunch of grifters, and generally shitty people.
 
I had what I thought was a life long friendship dissolved over the Covid shit. I have dropped what I was doing to go help him more than once. He had done the same for me.

He told me I should get fired for not taking the vaccine and that if I got sick he hoped I wouldn’t be allowed in the emergency room. We also argued about the mask mandate bs and kids going back to school from lockdown. I don’t Hope anything bad happens to him or his family. But we won’t dial each-others numbers ever again. I just saw his dad last weekend and he didn’t acknowledge my presence. Fine by me.

It's painful to acknowledge, but these people were always defective. COVID just brought it to the surface. Sorry you went through that. I have a sister-in-law that basically wished death on me for not taking the sheep shots.
 
Friends come and go by various means. I've manage to have 2 - 4 "will do anything at a moments notice" type of friends, at any given time in my life.

I've notice in times that I've owned a pick-up truck, I seem to accumulate more "friends" during that time......
 
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