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you knew it was coming...New Covid Variant Identified In Africa

None of what they are saying about the new strain is founded in facts.
"It could prove more deadly
It could be resistant to vaccines
It could prove more easily transmittable
It could be more dangerous to children..."
Currently there is not enough data to support any of those claims but they need to make it sound scary because people are starting to take their heads out of the sand.
It is more likely that the opposite of those statements is true but where is the money in that?
 
Id check other news sources before posting BS...

Compliments of the wife having knee replacement surgery this past Sept. she was at risk of the surgery being postponed until there was a bed available (requires an overnight stay) due to the ICU beds being filled at the 2 hostpitals here in Missoula with UNVACCINATED COVID patients. Its still an issue in Nov.
Further they had a gent requiring emergency gastric surgery in Billings in Oct...he was turned away and it was his wife that finally found a bed in UT that could take him on an emergency basis for the exact same reason.

But I respect your right to not take the vaccine...

I believe you’re misunderstanding just what qualifies as a “bed”… Hospitals often have loads of open actual beds, but not enough staff to cover them. You have to have x amount of nurses and y amount of support staff in order for the license to be in effect, it's not a “bed”unless the license says it can be. That could be from just being short staffed, or it could be, and normally is, just a staff scheduling issue. They will also transfer “beds” between departments: An ICU bed this week may have been cancer care last week, OB/gyn next week. pull out all the stops in the HR department,and you may see capacity in the same hospital go up dramatically.

There were, as he said, loads of temporary hospital tents that were put up for a surge that never came, but that’s really a different issue than the hospital “capacity”..


Yup, the hospital is managing down its staffing to operate efficiently ( near 100% ) and voluntarily firing staff due to vax mandates ( you don't do that in a real pandemic where its truly an all hands on deck situation)


As you see in the right columns, the covid cases arent drastically spiking, but the percents stay up due to # of beds fluctuating week over week:

 
All i've heard is that it might be easier to spread and that it has different symptoms... Nothing about lethality or severity. why are we panicking again
 

S. African Doctor Who Discovered Omicron: 'Unusual But Mild'​

The first South African doctor to sound an alert about patients with the omicron variant has described the symptoms as unusual but mild.

In an interview with the U.K.-based Telegraph, Dr. Angelique Coetzee, a general practitioner from Pretoria, recounted that patients began to show up in early November with COVID-19 symptoms that were different than she expected.

Included among those first patients were young people of different backgrounds and ethnicities with intense fatigue, and a 6-year-old child with a very high pulse rate, she told the Telegraph. None suffered a loss of taste or smell.


“Their symptoms were so different and so mild from those I had treated before,” Coetzee, who chairs the South African Medical Association.

On Nov. 18, four family members all tested positive for COVID with complete exhaustion and Coetzee said she reported the findings to South Africa’s vaccine advisory committee.

She said about two dozen of her patients have now tested positive for COVID with symptoms of the new variant — mostly healthy men who turned up “feeling so tired,” the Telegraph reported. About half were unvaccinated.

“We had one very interesting case, a kid, about six years old, with a temperature and a very high pulse rate, and I wondered if I should admit her,” she told the news outlet. “But when I followed up two days later, she was so much better.”

Coetzee said she was worried the new variant could still hit much harder in older people with co-morbidities like diabetes or heart disease.

“What we have to worry about now is that when older, unvaccinated people are infected with the new variant, and if they are not vaccinated, we are going to see many people with a severe [form of the] disease,” she told the news outlet.

The omicron variant, first identified in Botswana Nov. 11, has also now been detected in the U.K., Israel, the Netherlands, Hong Kong and Belgium. It has exhibited 32 mutations to the spike protein — the most of any variant so far — and scientists are concerned the mutations may allow it to evade existing vaccines and spread quickly, the Telegraph noted.


In South Africa, cases have rocketed up from about 550 a day last week to almost 4,000 a day currently, the Telegraph reported.

Coetzee's comments came as nations rushed to enact new mandates and travel bans as more news abouit the new variant's cases and spread broke on Sunday.

The Netherlands confirmed 13 cases of the new omicron variant of the coronavirus on Sunday and Australia found two as the countries half a world apart became the latest to detect it in travelers arriving from southern Africa.

A raft of curbs being imposed by nations around the world as they scramble to slow the variant's spread also grew, with Israel deciding Sunday to bar entry to foreign nationals in the toughest move so far.

Confirmed or suspected cases of the new variant have already emerged in several European countries, in Israel and in Hong Kong, just days after it was identified by researchers in South Africa. The “act first, ask questions later” approach reflected growing alarm about the emergence of a potentially more contagious variant nearly two years into a pandemic that has killed more than 5 million people, upended lives and disrupted economies across the globe.

While much remains to be learned about the new variant, researchers are concerned that it may be more resistant to the protection provided by vaccines and could mean that the pandemic lasts for longer than anticipated.

The Dutch public health authority confirmed that 13 people who arrived from South Africa Friday have so far tested positive for omicron. They were among 61 people who tested positive for the virus after arriving on the last two flights to Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport before a flight ban was implemented. They were immediately put into isolation, most at a nearby hotel, while sequencing was carried out.

Authorities in Australia said two overseas travelers who arrived in Sydney from Africa became the first in the country to test positive for the omicron variant. Arrivals from nine African countries are now required to quarantine in a hotel upon arrival. Two German states reported a total of three cases in returning travelers over the weekend.

Israel moved to ban entry by foreigners and mandate quarantine for all Israelis arriving from abroad.

“Restrictions on the country’s borders is not an easy step, but it’s a temporary and necessary step,” Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said at the start of the weekly Cabinet meeting.

Dr. Ran Balicer, head of the government’s advisory panel on COVID-19, told Israel’s Kan public radio that the new measures were necessary for the “fog of war” surrounding the new variant, saying it was “better to act early and strictly” to prevent its spread.

Dutch Health Minister Hugo de Jonge said he has asked his country’s public health institute for advice on whether additional travel restrictions are needed, but he said he wants to coordinate with his European Union counterparts because “I think those are really steps that we will have to take together.”

Many countries have restricted or banned travel from various southern African countries — among the latest New Zealand, Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore, Sri Lanka, the Maldives and Saudi Arabia. Places that already had imposed restrictions include Brazil, Canada, the EU, Iran, and the U.S. This goes against the advice of the World Health Organization, which has warned against any overreaction before the variant is thoroughly studied.

South Africa's government responded angrily to the travel bans, which it said are “akin to punishing South Africa for its advanced genomic sequencing and the ability to detect new variants quicker.” It said it will try to persuade countries that imposed them to reconsider.

“Whilst we respect the right of all countries to take the necessary precautionary measures to protect their citizens, we need to remember that this pandemic requires collaboration and sharing of expertise," the minister for international relations and cooperation, Naledi Pandor, said in a statement.

The United States’ top infectious diseases expert, Dr. Anthony Fauci, said he would not be surprised if the omicron variant was already in the U.S., though it hasn't yet been detected there.

In Europe, much of which already has been struggling with a sharp increase in cases over recent weeks, officials also were on guard.

The U.K. on Saturday tightened rules on mask-wearing and on testing of international arrivals after finding two omicron cases. Spain announced it won't admit unvaccinated British visitors starting Dec. 1.

Italy was going through lists of airline passengers who arrived in the past two weeks after a business traveler who returned from Mozambique and landed in Rome on Nov. 11 tested positive for omicron. The Lazio region's top health official, Alessio D’Amato, said that “controls at airports, ports and train stations have been reinforced.”

French Health Minister Olivier Veran said that, while his country had no confirmed cases yet, “it is probable that there currently are cases in circulation."

While it is not clear yet how existing vaccines work against the omicron variant, Veran said France isn’t changing its strategy to fight the latest surge of infections driven by the delta variant, which centers on increasing vaccinations and boosters.

David Hui, a respiratory medicine expert and government adviser on the pandemic in Hong Kong, said that even though it is not clear if current coronavirus vaccines are effective against the new variant, the city’s vaccination rate should be increased and booster doses should be implemented as soon as possible.

He said that the two people who tested positive for the omicron variant had received the BioNTech-Pfizer shot and exhibited very mild symptoms, such as a sore throat.

“Vaccines should work but there would be some reduction in effectiveness,” he said.
 
Fuck this shit. It's almost winter and I smoke. Runny noses and sore throat are a daily occurrence.
Been dealing with a runny nose along coughing flem out of my throat for the last two weeks nothing, something that hits me every couple of years usually brought on by having to spend time out in the wind. Went to a great nieces marching band contest middle of Oct started then last week it hit with a vengeance! Starting to get over it finally!
 
I'm not a doctor, but why the fuck would anyone involved in medical science be surprised that there is a constant slew of new variants?

They've vaccinated 80% or so of the world with a half-assed vaccine that does a half-assed job of dealing with a mild virus. Of course it's going to harden and mutate. It's like getting everyone to take a half course of antibiotics and stop. Really fucking dangerous.

By their own actions they're potentially turning a really mild illness into something that might actually be a real issue.
 
Maxwells trial moves along unnoticed as all the major media outlets are plastered with Moronic (omicron rearranged) articles and fear mongering. How convenient.
 
Id check other news sources before posting BS...

Compliments of the wife having knee replacement surgery this past Sept. she was at risk of the surgery being postponed until there was a bed available (requires an overnight stay) due to the ICU beds being filled at the 2 hostpitals here in Missoula with UNVACCINATED COVID patients. Its still an issue in Nov.
Further they had a gent requiring emergency gastric surgery in Billings in Oct...he was turned away and it was his wife that finally found a bed in UT that could take him on an emergency basis for the exact same reason.

But I respect your right to not take the vaccine...
Fuck off with this. Our whole family of 5 just got it. No ones vaxxed. We all lived. Exhaustion was the worst for all of us.
 
Prepare your anus.


This is my problem. This is fauchi's response. OMG were all gonna die, shut everything down again! cower in your homes!
and then you have this from the Dr who first noticed it and is actively treating it now

JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - A South African doctor who was one of the first to suspect a different coronavirus strain among patients said on Sunday that symptoms of the Omicron variant were so far mild and could be treated at home.

WTF are we doing. If what this SA Dr says hold true and this administration goes back into lockdown/closures with the media singing their praises that should again tell you it's all about power and control
 
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I'm working with a boatload (literally) of South Africans right now. They are all worried about being locked down when they return home.

They said the first thing that goes in a lock down is the sale of alcohol. I thought that was kind of strange.
 
Biden to speak soon on omicron variant. Doom and destruction or signs saying it's not that bad? I'm thinking doom and gloom
 
Doom and gloom of course. All over Yahoo for the last two days. Every other article is omicron this, omicron that, Faulk warns we will get buttfucked y the new variant, gonna have to shut down again, blah blah blah.
 
snip...

JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - A South African doctor who was one of the first to suspect a different coronavirus strain among patients said on Sunday that symptoms of the Omicron variant were so far mild and could be treated at home.

...unsnip

Except for a small percentage of people, all the variants are mild and could be treated at home with the right medicines and supplements.
 
fake news. Biden says we are facing "A new threat" wear masks indoors!!!
He is trying to distract everyone from his ineptitude... guess not all news outlets are with the program!

I think they all are jumping on these waves more for the waves of clicks they generate over the actual threat. A some point the boy who cries wolf get a crossbow bolt to the neck.
 
was watching fox and they had some Dr on saying that they were using a new theraputic (i don't remember the name but i've never heard it before) that cut hospital deaths by 90%. He also criticized the biden administration for the lack of theraputics available to people and only pushing the vaccine
 
was watching fox and they had some Dr on saying that they were using a new theraputic (i don't remember the name but i've never heard it before) that cut hospital deaths by 90%. He also criticized the biden administration for the lack of theraputics available to people and only pushing the vaccine

Fauci and Biden are both idiots, don't expect the government to get this right ever. The antibody treatment seems to work pretty well but needs to be administered via IV. We just opened a few antibody clinics in MT, hopefully that helps things.
 
UN just posted that omicron risk is "very high" and future surges could cause worldwide disruptions. And they are getting this info from where?
 
I believe you’re misunderstanding just what qualifies as a “bed”… Hospitals often have loads of open actual beds, but not enough staff to cover them. You have to have x amount of nurses and y amount of support staff in order for the license to be in effect, it's not a “bed” unless the license says it can be. That could be from just being short staffed, or it could be, and normally is, just a staff scheduling issue. They will also transfer “beds” between departments: An ICU bed this week may have been cancer care last week, OB/gyn next week. pull out all the stops in the HR department, and you may see capacity in the same hospital go up dramatically.

There were, as he said, loads of temporary hospital tents that were put up for a surge that never came, but that’s really a different issue than the hospital “capacity”..
Im familiar with the deal about beds. All the hospitals in MT are private nowadays as are private clinics. What self respecting CEO and Board is going to staff up with "regular" employees and convert "beds" from elective surgery which pay BIG $$$ to ICU unless absolutely necessary and not without due compesations by the FEDS/insurance companies for the "losses"?

Both hospitals where I live also have infectious disease wards above and beyond the "normal" ICU with one having a tier 4 infectious ward (ties to the NIH virus facility in Hamilton) . They took ebola patients coming back from Africa in 2010 for that reason...and got picketed by folks for it. Now its full of COVID patients.

Voluntary surgeries are mostly on hiatus at both hospitals. The ONLY reason my wife lucked out in Sept was because they had reserved the bed prior to the shut down for "elective" surgeries in Sept. That's the case with most of the hospitals across the state.

To circumvent the manpower issue the MT NG was enlisted to help out around the state, but beds are still an issue. Not all NG types can do the nursing duties and the NG has a limited number of nurses, medics and MDs.
 
UN just posted that omicron risk is "very high" and future surges could cause worldwide disruptions. And they are getting this info from where?
Interesting cuz WHO made a comment that the risk is a bit blown out of proportion yesterday on a banner news blip across the bottom of the local 10 PM news broadcast. Which one is playing chicken little?

From a purely conspiracy theory perspective I find it interesting the break out came from S. Africa, Botswana and...Belgium. If I didnt know better Id say it followed the diamond mines and distributors...:grinpimp:
 

White Smoke Emanates From Wuhan Lab Chimney Signaling A New Variant Has Been Named

WUHAN—Thousands gathered outside the Wuhan Institute of Virology with faces of anxious anticipation over the weekend, as rumors had been circulating that a new COVID-19 variant would soon be named. The hopeful pilgrims' hours of waiting were not in vain. Cheers erupted as white smoke began pouring out of the chimney early Sunday morning, signaling the creation and naming of a new COVID-19 variant.

"It was a lively debate," said one source from inside the Wuhan lab. "Yuhang suggested we just keep following the Greek alphabet and name it Xi. We haven't heard from him in a few days, come to think of it."

"Nu" was also floated as a possibility, but scientists wanted to avoid the stigma of being associated with nu-metal, generally acknowledged as the worst musical genre on the planet. One guy kept wanting to call it "The One-Der Variant" but this was confusing as everyone kept pronouncing it as Oh-NEE-der instead of Wonder. Finally, there was a last-ditch effort to name it the Trump variant, but this was finally defeated in favor of the safer "Omicron variant" according to sources within the lab.

After the celebration died down, the pilgrims shuffled away, their faces full of cheer. But they'll be back in a few weeks for the next one.
 
Im familiar with the deal about beds. All the hospitals in MT are private nowadays as are private clinics. What self respecting CEO and Board is going to staff up with "regular" employees and convert "beds" from elective surgery which pay BIG $$$ to ICU unless absolutely necessary and not without due compesations by the FEDS/insurance companies for the "losses"?

Both hospitals where I live also have infectious disease wards above and beyond the "normal" ICU with one having a tier 4 infectious ward (ties to the NIH virus facility in Hamilton) . They took ebola patients coming back from Africa in 2010 for that reason...and got picketed by folks for it. Now its full of COVID patients.

Voluntary surgeries are mostly on hiatus at both hospitals. The ONLY reason my wife lucked out in Sept was because they had reserved the bed prior to the shut down for "elective" surgeries in Sept. That's the case with most of the hospitals across the state.

To circumvent the manpower issue the MT NG was enlisted to help out around the state, but beds are still an issue. Not all NG types can do the nursing duties and the NG has a limited number of nurses, medics and MDs.
Too bad there are no government approved and media promoted protocols except for "vaccine" and vented in the hospital. Too bad for the people dying especially. Oh yeah you can get Remdesivir which is approved and patented and expensive and ineffective, but no out of patent Ivermectin Horsey dewormer which costs next to nothing and works.
 
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