When I was in TX in the 80s I bought a used Seiko from a pawn shop, owner was complaining he had sold out of Timexs but no one wanted the Seiko because they ddin't know the brand, the other reason I don't wear watches is finding a band that fits my wrist close to 11.5 inches round, anyway it was a self winder and I kept it in my pocket, much to the amazment of my watch maker uncle it kept perfect time. I was working with a steamer 12 hours a night and eventually it got moisture in it and quit, so into the pile of watches in my uncle's it went. He worked on it between working on paying customers work, last I heard he needed a bezel gasket, uynfortunaly he has since passed away