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What to do with crazy people

roundhouse said:
Yep
Ever seen the little kids in Russia huffing nail polish?
They get a bottle of nail polish and pour it into a plastic bag and huff it all day.
I’m talking 8 and 10 and 12 yr olds , who live on and under the streets . Live inside hollow bridge overpass beams etc .
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dont knock it till you try it :flipoff2:
 
Mikel said:
On my way to work I drive by a large abandoned psychiatric complex that was closed down in the 90s and I know of several more in a relatively small radius, all abandoned.

It's my understanding that up until the 80s-90s, a large percentage of people with deep psychiatric problems were treated or held at those places, whereas the emphasis is now on medication.

Walking through downtown New Haven, it's clear that a large percentage of homeless people are quite disturbed mentally and/or on drugs. From a limited government point of view, what is the proper way to deal with those people?
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You’re absolutely right, they used to house all the crazies in insane asylums but we shut 99% of them down and now let the crazies roam the streets. I’d wager 75% of the homeless population are mentally ill and don’t belong in society.

But we decided it was “cruel” to keep them like that so now they live on the streets, shitting behind dumpsters and panhandling for money, and usually talking to some imaginary person as well because they’re fucking nuts.

I’d wager too that a good bit of the mass murders and perpetrators of mass shootings would’ve also been locked in the nut house and prevented from doing what they did. Some people just don’t belong in society, used to either be prison or an asylum. Now it’s prison or the streets.
 
rockyota83 said:
you guys are fooling yourselves if you think drugs are the problem :shaking: if we could somehow magically make all drugs instantly disappear you think this issue would go away? no more crazy? no more homeless under tarps? are you really that fawking stupid?

what do people do when they cant get drugs?

they start huffing paint
they start smoking bath salts
they start grabbing random household cleaners and smoke/drink them

so paint is the problem?
bath salts are the problem?
random chemicals under the kitchen sink is the problem?
should we ban paint?
should we ban bath salts?

drugs are not the problem, and anyone that sits around talking about drugs being the problem is a fucking idiot
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All of these things you listed are the definition of drugs

Drug: a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.

and Just for you

Idiot: a stupid person.:flipoff2:
 
What do you do with "crazy" people?

You feed them psychotropic drugs and get them hooked on first person shooter games, even better if you can use Virtual Reality. Then once they've been nice and programmed, you double or triple the psychotropic drugs, and send them into the local school with an AR/AK for the "Ultimate Zombie Apocalypse Virtual Reality Game".

Oh, wait, that's what the ABC Agencies do anytime the Corrupt.gov needs you to focus on something other than their crimes which were getting some attention. Added bonus is that the MSM will not only take the focus off of their crimes, but will beat the drums of Gun Control Legislation again.

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Seriously though, I think that one thing people miss, is that while there are legitimate chemical imbalances that could be treated properly with prescription drugs, a lot of "crazy" people have simply lived lives that the rest of us couldn't even imagine. I'm reminded of the scene in Harry Potter: The Poisoner of Azkaban where Professor Lupin tells Harry that the reason the Dementors affect him more than his friends is that he's "seen true horrors, that your friends could scarcely imagine."

I met a guy who had been "crazy," homeless living on the streets. Some of the things he went through on a regular basis as a kid would shake the vast majority of us if it happened once. His mom was a drug addict and would "pay" for her drugs with her body, typically done right in front of him and his older brother. Sometimes, she'd make her KIDS "work" for the drugs/money. What he remembers of his "dad" is that he wasn't often around, but when he did show up he'd beat up the mom, upset because she was high, or he caught her "making money." He'd beat the kids too, just for being there. When he was about 7 (he doesn't remember because they never celebrated his or his brother's birthdays), his older brother hung himself, while his mom was passed out on the couch. He tried to keep his brother from dying by lifting his legs as he was hanging until he couldn't anymore. As a teen, he ran away from abusive foster parents to live on the streets; pan-handling, stealing, doing whatever it took to get the next "hit" of whatever drug he could get. If I had lived through even half the crap he'd been through, I'd too would probably be on the streets, talking to myself and looking for any "substance" that could take the pain away if even for a moment.

He eventually got real help, not a regular psychologist (that typically just want to dig crap up, but not actually deal with it); but something more like a "deliverance ministry." Not what most people think of when they think of "church people;" this guy actually cared for him, helped him get cleaned up, really talked WITH him (not TO him), helped him deal with his past instead of turning to substances. He didn't TELL him about Jesus, he SHOWED him about Jesus (and I think that is something A LOT of us Christians are guilty of, we TELL, we don't SHOW). Yes, he eventually became a Christian as well, but that's not my point here. My point is this: sometimes people are crazy because they've gone through some really crazy things in their life; drugs (either prescribed or not) are not the answer, dealing with the past is. What doesn't kill you will make you stronger, and your specific past experiences give you the opportunity to uniquely connect with others who may have gone through (or are going through) similar experiences. In his case, he opened a boxing gym as that was one of the ways he learned to deal with his past (some may think it strange to "hit the bag" while praying to Jesus, but it works for him).

Yet, here we are, treating the symptoms, giving "crazy" people (prescription) drugs (or they find their own "substance escape") rather than helping them deal with their past, because, quite simply, we don't want to know that much about the dark side of humanity. Reading about it in a history book or an online post/article isn't the same as hearing it from someone's mouth, seeing the truth in their eyes, and feeling it impact you to your soul.


Having said all of that, in one of the classes I've attended, I learned that more than a third of all women in the U.S. (most other countries are worse) have been sexually assaulted or abused and typically by someone in their own family (dad, uncle, brother, cousin, etc...) I know people kid around a lot and say stuff like "all women are crazy" ... maybe they have a good reason.
 
Mikel said:
From a limited government point of view, what is the proper way to deal with those people?
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Nothing, you do nothing and you don't care what people do unless they're harming others, just like anyone else.
 
ArTi54N said:
seriously tho.. I worked at the Austin State Hospital for a few years.. eventually I was a Texas Certified Peer Support Specialist..

a large percentage of people I would see, would be homeless.. but there are lots of kinds of stats you could place them under..

if I didn't have parents with money, I would probably be homeless.. or living on someone's couch
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Seriously? Worked there or were a "resident"?
 
I know a couple people that work in the mental health field, and that industry is pushing for states to start building/opening facilities again for mental health patients. Talking to them about how many people they see/treat is quite an eye opener. There is definitely a mental health crisis in our country, and with the current political climate I can only imagine it will get worse.
 
Better living thru chemistry.

Cryogenics, freezer therapy for the win.
 
rockyota83 said:
you guys are fooling yourselves if you think drugs are the problem :shaking: if we could somehow magically make all drugs instantly disappear you think this issue would go away? no more crazy? no more homeless under tarps? are you really that fawking stupid?

what do people do when they cant get drugs?

they start huffing paint
they start smoking bath salts
they start grabbing random household cleaners and smoke/drink them

so paint is the problem?
bath salts are the problem?
random chemicals under the kitchen sink is the problem?
should we ban paint?
should we ban bath salts?

drugs are not the problem, and anyone that sits around talking about drugs being the problem is a fucking idiot
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Nah bro drugs are the problem :lmao:

You’re absolutely right, anyone who blames drugs is retarded. It’s a mental health issue, one that for many people SHOULD mean a lifetime in an institution.

But nah, it’s easier to blame the drugs and the :mr-t:’s and the wetbacks selling them (because no whites sell drugs after all). Like most problems in America we find a scapegoat instead of addressing the real problem
 
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desertPOS said:
What about quit taxing people into oblivion and doing things that devalue the US dollar to contribute to inflation that just keeps rising, while leaving the borders open for anyone to just come in? Focus on (seems impossible) reversing inflation and getting back to a thriving economy where people with basic jobs can afford to house themselves the way that they used to be able to?

Beyond that I don't know, but seems like it'd be a good starting point... I always wonder how many people developed mental illness from being homeless in the first place, or how many people were doing ok but just had a few things go wrong, now they're on the streets - and now that they're there just is too huge of an undertaking to come back from it without help... Then with that comes the mental illness...

Maybe a good dose of objectivism or anarchy into society, drag a few politicians out in the streets and shoot them in the head, whatever it takes:homer: There will always be some crazies, but seems like a thriving economy would be a great way to minimize the hardship of existing in the first place for quite a few:usa:
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Statistically, men have a higher suicide & homeless rate than women.

Also (can't take credit for the saying) : while women may have a glass ceiling, men aren't provided a glass floor. Women are provided the benefit of the doubt, men are not afforded that, but provided the expectation of performance.
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
All of these things you listed are the definition of drugs

Drug: a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.

and Just for you

Idiot: a stupid person.:flipoff2:
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Was the idiot definition describing yourself? :flipoff2:

Missed the point of the post, retard. Even if we eliminate all the illegal and “bad” drugs, dipshits will be out there huffing gas and smoking cat piss to get fucked up.

The desire to alter your consciousness is a human universal and completely unrelated to the mental health issues these people have. And honestly some of these people can’t be helped/cured so they need to be sequestered away from normal, functioning society.
 
roundhouse said:
Yep
Ever seen the little kids in Russia huffing nail polish?
They get a bottle of nail polish and pour it into a plastic bag and huff it all day.
I’m talking 8 and 10 and 12 yr olds , who live on and under the streets . Live inside hollow bridge overpass beams etc .
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so we should ban nail polish?

or should we ban using nail polish for anything but removing nail polish?

ban little kids?


noooooo wait i got it figured out

label nail polish a drug and then we ban it :laughing:
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
All of these things you listed are the definition of drugs

Drug: a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body.

and Just for you

Idiot: a stupid person.:flipoff2:
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so ban stupid people? ban all drugs including paint?

:homer:

i mean since drugs are the problem maybe we should just like extra ban them?
 
Fence off LA, NYC, Shitcago and send them there. In a decade or 2 they will reproduce into a super race of full blown wackaloons.
 
jimmy123456789 said:
Was the idiot definition describing yourself? :flipoff2:

Missed the point of the post, retard. Even if we eliminate all the illegal and “bad” drugs, dipshits will be out there huffing gas and smoking cat piss to get fucked up.

The desire to alter your consciousness is a human universal and completely unrelated to the mental health issues these people have. And honestly some of these people can’t be helped/cured so they need to be sequestered away from normal, functioning society.
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Drugs seem to be the catalyst to the crazy that is all I am saying

calm the fuck down
 
rockyota83 said:
so we should ban nail polish?

or should we ban using nail polish for anything but removing nail polish?

ban little kids?


noooooo wait i got it figured out

label nail polish a drug and then we ban it :laughing:
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No

the point is that stupid weak people will find some thing that works to make them high

people in prison make alcohol in their toilets
 
Tin Roof said:
I know a couple people that work in the mental health field, and that industry is pushing for states to start building/opening facilities again for mental health patients. Talking to them about how many people they see/treat is quite an eye opener. There is definitely a mental health crisis in our country, and with the current political climate I can only imagine it will get worse.
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I have a family member who works in mental health care and they've told tales of having someone in and back out six or eight times because they would get arrested, come and get showered cleaned up, on their medications then go see the judge and the judge would say I don't see any reason for them to go to a clinic that they don't want to go to, it looks like they're doing just fine.
The person with then walk out, not take their medicine and be arrested again within a few weeks.
They finally were able to get this person in front of a judge as they came in when they were arrested, unshowered, unmedicated and as loony as they come, then the judge signed off on a 30 day involuntary inpatient treatment for them.
Not sure what the answer is, but what we have now isn't it.
Perhaps one thing that would help would be required training for judges who are going to be on those courts to understand the basics of the various mental disorders and the ramifications thereof.

Aaron Z
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
I have the pleasure of watching this up close.
Kids mom has slowly sunk into addiction. She is on her way to living on the streets, just give her time.

I watched a young fun lively beautiful lady slowly turn into a female version of angry skeletor He-man character.

Most of this is drugs, it isn't a homeless problem, it is a drug problem. You can't fix it without fixing the drugs

Yes, there are some legit 'crazys' but I am trying to refer to the masses .....it is drugs

and the addict themselves have to be the ones to want to fix it, or lock them up, and I will still be that they will get the drugs anyway

I wish I was wrong, but I lived it
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According to some even here, legalize drugs and the problem will go away. As you see..... WRONG.
 
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