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Vaccine FAILURE, on every level.

My first covid shot resulted in a sore arm. The second shot resulted in very painful finger joints, that lasted about three weeks. This was about a year ago.

Overall I am in good health, with excellent blood panel results, low cholesterol, etc; other than minor high blood pressure that I've had since my 40's and I am now 66.

Fast fwd to two weeks ago and I suddenly developed nagging chest pains that sent me to the hospital. They did an EKG and I turns out I developed an AFIB condition, but they also determined that my chest pains were the result of two blood clots, one in each lung. Had I not gone to the hospital when I did and immediately put on blood thinners, the ER doc said I would have stroked out.

ER doc and my now new Cardiologist were stumped as to why I got AFIB and blood clots since I was in pretty good shape. ER doc asked me which vaccine I got, and when I said Moderna he said he's been starting to see similar findings such as mine, come through the ER. When I asked my Cardiologist if the vaccine could have caused my condition, he too agreed that the vaccine could be the root cause, as he could not make any other determination as to what brought on the AFIB and particularly the blood clots in my lungs.

On January 12th I go in for an echocardiogram to see if I have any other heart damage and to see if I have a suspected hole in between the heart chambers that could prove to be a bigger problem as far as the risk of forming other blood clots. The echocardiogram will determine which course of action to take to treat the AFIB and any other potential issues that may crop up. My Cardiologist also asked if I had received any booster shots and I said no. He said "Good and I don't recommend any more."

It was really refreshing to hear both the ER doc and my Cardiologist question the inherent risks of the covid vaccine.

Keeping my fingers crossed as to what the echocardiogram results are......
 
tracyb said:
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person hurt bad and a down bike on the lip of a dune. saw it from camp. took the truck i never intended to take out to get a high point, just above. a common one way most will blindly send it off of.

the cop, doesn't help just hassles me. stupid fuck gave me a no flag/ $10 pass ticket. ($2xx ish irrc) the incident was cleaned up no help from him and he takes off smiling.... only to get stuck in the same bad spot. he politely got out and stopped me to get a tow out, i politely told him to take the ticket back or fuck himself. then we watched for a little less than an hour as the patrol monkeys got another to help.... it was a show. sand lake, or.



the next month a person was killed in the same spot. similar incident. a person i know was driving the rail that caused the damage. femeral artery tore, it was horrible. rail driver hasn't stepped foot on the sand since. some of the locals know a guy named Randle sp? bad as rail and a good dude. the person that died was doing the same thing i stopped many from doing when i drove out to the wreck.

i have no sympathy for those that will site a ticket to a person whose clear and obvious reason to break a rule is to help someone in need. its like they want more death to shut down the sand. i have not seen a single OR cop on the sand do anything that promotes good behavior, just revenue collectors.

i'm told the sand lake cop, whos somehow family of the closest fuel store is trying to change that. but that was years ago. i still ride OR but its not where i want to be.

i'm no cop hater, at all. but really. fuck those cops. and never seen a decent one on the sand.


and to be clear this is Oregon. i've met with cops on the sand in id, ut. az, and ca. multiple times and oregon is the worst i've met. not about safety, its about revenue.
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Sounds like the Oregon sand cops I knew as well.
 
Ebs said:
New law ends COVID-19 vaccine mandate for US troops

apnews.com

New law ends COVID-19 vaccine mandate for US troops

U.S. military forces around the world will no longer be required to get the COVID-19 vaccine. The mandate was lifted under an $858 billion defense spending bill passed by Congress and signed into law Friday by President Joe Biden.
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Lots of stuff to be bothered by that bill, only the 1 decent thing :laughing:
 
Gonna get messy, if this thing goes off the rails, when those involved start turning on each other as the blame game starts and the responsibility hot potato gets passed around.

media, politicians, fda, big pharma, vax mandates for school/employment, censorship...the shit runs deep. Can't really say the people were well informed and were free to make their own medical decisions on this with all that happening.
 
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Dod said the fda approved and fda authorized vaccines were the same, fed judge said otherwise, they are legally different. The mandate is for fda approved vaccines only, which makes it tough when they're not distributing the fda approved version.
 
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The reality also is that all of us who held out and said fire us over getting that vaccine aren’t going to cave now.

They knew they would lose massive amounts of staffing, ultimately shutting down the government. My company would have forfeited their contract and so would many other, more vital companies.

It’s always amazing to me how people are so stupid to see that mass non-compliance speaks volumes in numbers. And all those who caved would’ve ended up jobless anyways if their contracts folded.
 
FleshEater said:
The reality also is that all of us who held out and said fire us over getting that vaccine aren’t going to cave now.

They knew they would lose massive amounts of staffing, ultimately shutting down the government. My company would have forfeited their contract and so would many other, more vital companies.

It’s always amazing to me how people are so stupid to see that mass non-compliance speaks volumes in numbers. And all those who caved would’ve ended up jobless anyways if their contracts folded.
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What pisses me off is the lengths that they went to with the fear-mongering, but hey it was/still is a PSYOP.

Remember when we were told if we were unvaccinated that we'd be facing a winter of severe illness and death?

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But then...a year later...
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FleshEater said:
The reality also is that all of us who held out and said fire us over getting that vaccine aren’t going to cave now.

They knew they would lose massive amounts of staffing, ultimately shutting down the government. My company would have forfeited their contract and so would many other, more vital companies.

It’s always amazing to me how people are so stupid to see that mass non-compliance speaks volumes in numbers. And all those who caved would’ve ended up jobless anyways if their contracts folded.
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Ultimately, it's why my work canceled the mandate. It became obvious very quickly that they were only going to get maybe 5-10% participation, and both management and labor where preparing to walk. Corporate figured out it was going to close the doors, and simply gave up.

I really wish this would have been universal reaction to the mandates nation wide. Even if you wanted the vaxx, leave your card at home... refuse to disclose... make them fire you. The mandates would have disappeared overnight. No one would have lost their job.
 
45acp said:
Ultimately, it's why my work canceled the mandate. It became obvious very quickly that they were only going to get maybe 5-10% participation, and both management and labor where preparing to walk. Corporate figured out it was going to close the doors, and simply gave up.

I really wish this would have been universal reaction to the mandates nation wide. Even if you wanted the vaxx, leave your card at home... refuse to disclose... make them fire you. The mandates would have disappeared overnight. No one would have lost their job.
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lots of folks at my work, government contractor talked tough. most folded like a piece of paper. some got religious exemptions, i am the only one who said fire me that i know of.
 
45acp said:
Ultimately, it's why my work canceled the mandate. It became obvious very quickly that they were only going to get maybe 5-10% participation, and both management and labor where preparing to walk. Corporate figured out it was going to close the doors, and simply gave up.

I really wish this would have been universal reaction to the mandates nation wide. Even if you wanted the vax, leave your card at home... refuse to disclose... make them fire you. The mandates would have disappeared overnight. No one would have lost their job.
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I've worked for two corporations during Covid times. Both were way too eager to give in to government mandates. The Boston based one was all too eager. They just removed the vax requirement for new hires and reported that all previous vax medical data is being destroyed.
Many employees are freaking out about it.
 
gunracer1 said:
lots of folks at my work, government contractor talked tough. most folded like a piece of paper. some got religious exemptions, i am the only one who said fire me that i know of.
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We specifically had a one in a million scenario happen.

Department manager (well known plant wide) gets the J&J before they're even available to the public. No rumors out yet, nobody knows shit at this point other than Trump is about to have a vaxx available. Dude throws a blood clot and strokes out 15mins later, spends a month as a vegetable being kept alive by computers, then "dies from covid". Relatively healthy 50yr old jogger/ bicyclist with no prior health issues.

We all watched this happen in real-time. People who may have originally been chest thumping folders, got a real sense of fear. This shit killed my boss... fuck you, I'll go work somewhere else etc. A group of us had a lawyer on retainer and got a consult. Word got out- if you want the vaxx or not that's fine either way... but if you're caught inside this plant with a vaxx card you're getting your ass beat.

In the end, it worked.
 
So I call my FAA doctor yesterday to schedule a flight physical and informed me that he won’t be doing exams on people that arnt vaxed. He said “I have liver cancer and can’t risk getting COVID” . Should I have bothered telling him that even the CDC says the vax doesn’t stop spreading?

I hung up. I’ll find someone else or I’ll fly without it.
 
WaterH said:
So I call my FAA doctor yesterday to schedule a flight physical and informed me that he won’t be doing exams on people that arnt vaxed. He said “I have liver cancer and can’t risk getting COVID” . Should I have bothered telling him that even the CDC says the vax doesn’t stop spreading?
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Sounds like a doctor who should be avoided at all costs anyways.
 
WaterH said:
So I call my FAA doctor yesterday to schedule a flight physical and informed me that he won’t be doing exams on people that arnt vaxed. He said “I have liver cancer and can’t risk getting COVID” . Should I have bothered telling him that even the CDC says the vax doesn’t stop spreading?

I hung up. I’ll find someone else or I’ll fly without it.
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Really losing trust in the medical community for reasons like this. Plus he's admitting his jabs won't protect him but yours magically will.
 
the conservative atheist said:
Haven't artificial sweeteners been around for 30+ years?
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I remember when sugar was the source of all the worlds woes and we need to move to artifical sweeteners! :eek: Sacrin was going to save the world and make lots of money for the sellers, then it came out sacrin was even worse than sugar :eek::eek:
Then coffee was going to kill you, then it wasn't, then it was... :confused:
 
bigun said:
I remember when sugar was the source of all the worlds woes and we need to move to artifical sweeteners! :eek: Sacrin was going to save the world and make lots of money for the sellers, then it came out sacrin was even worse than sugar :eek::eek:
Then coffee was going to kill you, then it wasn't, then it was... :confused:
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Just like eggs
 
Ebs said:
Gonna get messy, if this thing goes off the rails, when those involved start turning on each other as the blame game starts and the responsibility hot potato gets passed around.

media, politicians, fda, big pharma, vax mandates for school/employment, censorship...the shit runs deep. Can't really say the people we're well informed and we're free to make their own medical decisions on this with all that happening.
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Imo it’s pretty simple really. Prosecute the minions and execute the ring leaders. Nuremberg style.
 
WaterH said:
So I call my FAA doctor yesterday to schedule a flight physical and informed me that he won’t be doing exams on people that arnt vaxed. He said “I have liver cancer and can’t risk getting COVID” . Should I have bothered telling him that even the CDC says the vax doesn’t stop spreading?

I hung up. I’ll find someone else or I’ll fly without it.
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One of my kids got sick about a year ago. Took him to general doc and the doc refused to see him. Said he was scared of catching covid.
My kid didn't have covid, it was like an ear infection or something.
Purpose of doctor = see sick patients? I said why doesn't he just quit and retire then.

He briefly entered the room dressed for Mars and ran away after signing something. In my book he stopped being a doctor that day and we will never see him again.
 
Ebs said:
Gonna get messy, if this thing goes off the rails, when those involved start turning on each other as the blame game starts and the responsibility hot potato gets passed around.

media, politicians, fda, big pharma, vax mandates for school/employment, censorship...the shit runs deep. Can't really say the people we're well informed and we're free to make their own medical decisions on this with all that happening.
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But is it? We all know NOTHING will ever come of it.
Yota Up said:
One of my kids got sick about a year ago. Took him to general doc and the doc refused to see him. Said he was scared of catching covid.
My kid didn't have covid, it was like an ear infection or something.
Purpose of doctor = see sick patients? I said why doesn't he just quit and retire then.

He briefly entered the room dressed for Mars and ran away after signing something. In my book he stopped being a doctor that day and we will never see him again.
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Look into direct primary care. since those docs have split off from the system, most of them have been right about this non-sense. mine gave us rona kits with horsey paste in them :laughing:
 
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