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Vaccine FAILURE, on every level.

bunk said:
Well she spouted the generic responses, follow the Sience and so on. Was adamant that vaxx death did not surpass unvaxxd and boom, luckily for her; her fiancé called right when I had the cdc data showing that I was right. Conversation postponed. But she is open to reading data I text her. I told her blood clots are not a little clot but a huge obstruction and she looked dumbfounded. Hopefully I started her wheels turning. Unfortunately she’s on the booster train and up to date and said she will continue doing so. Fwiw, she works in media. Yes, she did raise her voice and started arguing while I was calm. At this point I’m going to text her the cdc link, and be done with it.
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you did what you could. time to harden your heart. :frown:
 
Full on blow out on the last day at her house. She thinks it came from
The food market and a mink is responsible. Sent the link to her from dr John Campbell’s November 25th video where he explains vaxxd deaths passed unvaxxd and she said she may watch it. Never asked if her kids got jabbed, doesn’t really matter. Just gotta get ready for the worst. Like I said, she works in media. She accused me of being brainwashed. She also said trump made the vaxx cause he was worried his voters would die if he didn’t. Oh Kay.
 
I think this is really a religious conversation. There will not be a change of opinion IMO.
It would take years of the person doing their own research to flip their bias, if it's even possible.
 
bunk said:
If you’ve managed to shed light to a pro vaxxer I’d like to hear what you said to wake them up.
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By and large, they at most clam up and go quiet.

It is one of those deals where you can't really broach the subject without it turning into a one sided lecture.
One where she's finding out that she was on the side of the nazis this whole time.
Very much like trying to talk sense into idealistic revolutionary types.

It is not an easy ridge to walk, very easy to stumble and lose all the progress you'd made.
 
[486] said:
no
they're viewing it as blasphemy to their religion
there is no quarter given, it will be viewed extremely harshly and the first thing referred to will be the biased 'fact check' websites
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sigh....I know you are correct in that assessment. hence why I say "harden your heart". the war is lost, not over, but lost none the less.
 
bunk said:
Full on blow out on the last day at her house. She thinks it came from
The food market and a mink is responsible. Sent the link to her from dr John Campbell’s November 25th video where he explains vaxxd deaths passed unvaxxd and she said she may watch it. Never asked if her kids got jabbed, doesn’t really matter. Just gotta get ready for the worst. Like I said, she works in media. She accused me of being brainwashed. She also said trump made the vaxx cause he was worried his voters would die if he didn’t. Oh Kay.
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Well, there is also the indirect approach.

Don't talk about the vaccine, just talk about the communism behind it all and the over reach of government and general consolidation of power. Doesn't have much to do with the vaccine, leads to a similar result, communism is comical so it keeps it lighthearted
 
[486] said:
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they're viewing it as blasphemy to their religion
there is no quarter given, it will be viewed extremely harshly and the first thing referred to will be the biased 'fact check' websites which latch onto any tiny chink in the fabric
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Like clockwork. People always forget, or don’t know, Wiki is edited by anyone.

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[486] said:
childrens policies pay out a lot higher rate than adult ones
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sounds like that will be changing soon enough, if the articles on what insurace is paying out on over average deaths on younger age...


i dont know what is true but i think insurance #'s would be a good place to watch.
 
tracyb said:
sounds like that will be changing soon enough, if the articles on what insurace is paying out on over average deaths on younger age...
i dont know what is true but i think insurance #'s would be a good place to watch.
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hah yeah
like any ponzi scheme, they ain't in the business of losing money
45acp said:
I never thought about it, but I think you've just stumbled on the most accurate, least politically biased canary in a coalmine we have.
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the insurance companies sounded the alarm on youth myocarditis like a year ago

they were one of the first to start leaking out data that the death rate spiked when the vaccine was approved for children
 
[486] said:
the insurance companies sounded the alarm on youth myocarditis like a year ago

they were one of the first to start leaking out data that the death rate spiked when the vaccine was approved for children
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It'll be interesting to watch over the next couple or five years.


edit- interesting is a shitty way of describing it... uh... well shit, yall know what I mean
 
45acp said:
It'll be interesting to watch over the next couple or five years.


edit- interesting is a shitty way of describing it... uh... well shit, yall know what I mean
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don't worry about it, everyone knows what you meant
reality is that lots of children are killed by poor parenting, this is just a new route to the same result
 
45acp said:
I never thought about it, but I think you've just stumbled on the most accurate, least politically biased canary in a coalmine we have.
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First I saw in a search. But this was reported a while ago.

docbrown77.substack.com

Life insurance payouts with Lincoln Insurance company were up 163% in 2021

Thank you to Margaret Menge and her crossroads report substack blog for this information! Lincoln National, the FIFTH largest insurance company in the United States, reported a 163% increase in death benefits paid out under its group life insurance policies in 2021. To put that into perspective...
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[486] said:
don't worry about it, everyone knows what you meant
reality is that lots of children are killed by poor parenting, this is just a new route to the same result
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no no no.

every parent is perfect as long as the outcome is bad enough.



my kids 4/5yo and their seat in my work truck is just the back seat with the belt routed for them. wifey hates its not .gov approved. and you should see the way most car seats are installed:eek:, but the moms agree .gov approved is best! my kid aint expiring due to poor parenting... but it happens allot. like allot allot.


thankfully my old lady hasn't gone full retard. yet
 
tracyb said:
no no no.

every parent is perfect as long as the outcome is bad enough.



my kids 4/5yo and their seat in my work truck is just the back seat with the belt routed for them. wifey hates its not .gov approved. and you should see the way most car seats are installed:eek:, but the moms agree .gov approved is best! my kid aint expiring due to poor parenting... but it happens allot. like allot allot.


thankfully my old lady hasn't gone full retard. yet
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I got a ticket in my wheeler in Oregon for an improperly secured child restraint.

No seatbelts in the rear of the TJ, I had welded a platform above the fuel cell and bolted and ratchet strapped the kids seat to it. It wasn't going anywhere. Sure AF more secure than with just a seatbelt.

The cop even told me good job, it's just wasn't approved by "the man" so he had to give me a ticket.

I had some photos of it but lost them when my hard drive crashed.
 
tracyb said:
no no no.

every parent is perfect as long as the outcome is bad enough.
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yes yes yes

wrap them in bubble wrap and never let them outside
they might learn some physics by falling off their bike or realize that success is associated with work, dangerous ideas that will destroy their chances to become a tranny in public school
 
KarlVP said:
I got a ticket in my wheeler in Oregon for an improperly secured child restraint.

No seatbelts in the rear of the TJ, I had welded a platform above the fuel cell and bolted and ratchet strapped the kids seat to it. It wasn't going anywhere. Sure AF more secure than with just a seatbelt.

The cop even told me good job, it's just wasn't approved by "the man" so he had to give me a ticket.

I had some photos of it but lost them when my hard drive crashed.
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dont get me started on Oreygon.

Or. is the reason i started venturing further for camping and whelling time. last year was the first time we went to Coos in 4 years! (used to be 2x/yr min) we are not going back to any of the places i used to know. met some great people and camp at good, off the beaten path, places they know now.

i've literally been ticketed for saving a life in the oregon dunes. fuck that place! the stain of portland keeps bleeding further out.


for the most part if we aren't finding places in WA we are in id, ut, mt, wy, az, or ca. but only in ca for new years at glamis, koh, or my cousins place in palm springs.

oregon sand cops are the worst i've ever met, anywhere.
 
aczlan said:
Do tell...

Aaron Z
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not directly,


person hurt bad and a down bike on the lip of a dune. saw it from camp. took the truck i never intended to take out to get a high point, just above. a common one way most will blindly send it off of.

the cop, doesn't help just hassles me. stupid fuck gave me a no flag/ $10 pass ticket. ($2xx ish irrc) the incident was cleaned up no help from him and he takes off smiling.... only to get stuck in the same bad spot. he politely got out and stopped me to get a tow out, i politely told him to take the ticket back or fuck himself. then we watched for a little less than an hour as the patrol monkeys got another to help.... it was a show. sand lake, or.



the next month a person was killed in the same spot. similar incident. a person i know was driving the rail that caused the damage. femeral artery tore, it was horrible. rail driver hasn't stepped foot on the sand since. some of the locals know a guy named Randle sp? bad as rail and a good dude. the person that died was doing the same thing i stopped many from doing when i drove out to the wreck.

i have no sympathy for those that will site a ticket to a person whose clear and obvious reason to break a rule is to help someone in need. its like they want more death to shut down the sand. i have not seen a single OR cop on the sand do anything that promotes good behavior, just revenue collectors.

i'm told the sand lake cop, whos somehow family of the closest fuel store is trying to change that. but that was years ago. i still ride OR but its not where i want to be.

i'm no cop hater, at all. but really. fuck those cops. and never seen a decent one on the sand.


and to be clear this is Oregon. i've met with cops on the sand in id, ut. az, and ca. multiple times and oregon is the worst i've met. not about safety, its about revenue.
 
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nope i paid it. i was younger and didn't know any better. also court would've been a 12hr round trip of driving.
 
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