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Vaccination mandates on the horizon.

I just got off the phone with my doctors office, I need a minor outpatient surgery next month. The lady asked about vaccination status, I said no, she said ok.
I was expecting her to at least suggest I should get it or something, there is enough time for 2 jabs between now and then
I have a colonoscopy scheduled for next week. My first question when I talked to the scheduler was whether or not I needed to be vaxxed to get the appointment. They apparently don't care if you are vaxxed or not. That's good because i was prepared to cancel the procedure if I had to be vaxxed first.
 
Yeah. I had my physical, the bloodwork review. My reg Dr has been out for over 10 weeks so I got a new guy. He was way more helpful in suggestions about improving life in middle age :laughing: We went over my records and looked at A1C, cholesterol, etc. We found I am due for a tetanus shot, not a booster. He even recommended I go to Walgreens as it would be free there, and UC Davis would have to charge about $100 because of my Medicare status. But he never mentioned any Covid shot. Nothing. Kiinda makes me wonder :confused::confused::confused:
 
She may be a ****, but at least she gives upstate NY people some credit :laughing:


She was asked if they could require crackdowns, like mask mandates or requiring vaccination proof for indoor dining. New York City has both, and its COVID-19 rates are far lower than the rest of the state.

But Hochul said that’s unrealistic Upstate, given many people’s opposition to those kinds of rules. "The localities, those that enforce this are doing it. We support them," Hochul said at a coronavirus briefing Thursday. "But there’s also the reality that it’s almost impossible to enforce this kind of behavior among a population that just won’t do it."
 
Yeah. I had my physical, the bloodwork review. My reg Dr has been out for over 10 weeks so I got a new guy. He was way more helpful in suggestions about improving life in middle age :laughing: We went over my records and looked at A1C, cholesterol, etc. We found I am due for a tetanus shot, not a booster. He even recommended I go to Walgreens as it would be free there, and UC Davis would have to charge about $100 because of my Medicare status. But he never mentioned any Covid shot. Nothing. Kiinda makes me wonder :confused::confused::confused:
Didn't have the sack to tell you you're done for...or about that asteroid that is on it's way.
 
"But there’s also the reality that it’s almost impossible to enforce this kind of behavior among a population that just won’t do it."

Exactly. And this proves that if people just refuse, they'll quit trying. Blame all the sheep for being willing participants that encourage more tyranny.


Meanwhile, it looks like a little data has been forced out of Pfizer by the courts. EUA was granted Dec 1, 2020. Over the next 3 months, they compiled the data on the vax. Results are bad.

Chance to survive virus = 99.9%
Chance to survive vax = 97.0%
(across all ages)
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I dont get your numbers. Maybe tomorrow I will read that document. The pic above shows about 3% fatalities if I read it right. And I probably am not reading it right. :laughing: I dont see any info on tthere at all on vaccination success. I guess the caption isn't in lay terms.

1223/42,000 X 100 = 2.9 (%) ????
 
I dont get your numbers. Maybe tomorrow I will read that document. The pic above shows about 3% fatalities if I read it right. And I probably am not reading it right. :laughing: I dont see any info on tthere at all on vaccination success. I guess the caption isn't in lay terms.

1223/42,000 X 100 = 2.9 (%) ????
3% among those with adverse effects, how many millions of doses is that for?
The report said that it was reporting adverse events from Dec 2020-28 Feb 2021.
The CDC has a report that said 40,517,900 people got the shot between Dec and 14 Feb 2021 (COVID-19 Vaccine Second-Dose Completion and Interval Between ... ) and 88% had gotten both shots.
Lets say that 40% of those in the US were Pfiser, that means 16,207,160 people in the US got about 30,469,460 shots, of them the US reported 13,739 adverse reactions (per the report on PDF page 7). That means that adverse an reaction occurred after 0.00450910518% of the shots and death occurred after 0.00135273155% of shots (if I got my math right).
That would seem to be in the "about the likelihood that you will keel over walking down the street" area of statistical probabilities.

Need to check VAERS to see if it matches those numbers for Dec 2020-28 Feb 2021.


Aaron Z
 
Nothing on deblasio mandating that all private business employees in NYC must be vaccinated and kids need to be vaccinated to go into restaurants. The guy has 2 weeks left. Guess be really wanted to burn it all to the ground. I'm really hoping that the new mayor will be reasonable.
 
Nothing on deblasio mandating that all private business employees in NYC must be vaccinated and kids need to be vaccinated to go into restaurants. The guy has 2 weeks left. Guess be really wanted to burn it all to the ground. I'm really hoping that the new mayor will be reasonable.
Ha came here to say the same
 
Wonder how long until they forcefully use this airborne vaccine on the unvaxxed?


This COVID vaccine can be inhaled​

Canadian scientists are set to start testing an inhaled COVID-19 vaccine in humans that targets not only the ever-mutating spike protein the pandemic virus uses to grab onto human cells, but two others that aren’t nearly so prone to mutations.
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© Provided by National Post Fiona Smaill and research coordinator Emilio Aguirre demonstrate the use of the nebulizer with a volunteer.
Instead of being injected into the deltoid muscles in the arm, the McMaster University vaccine is delivered via tiny aerosol particles breathed deep into the lungs.

The vaccine is part of a second generation of COVID-19 vaccines and one of two Canadian-made formulas that hope to offer a more robust, and more stable immune response. On Tuesday, Quebec-based Medicago Inc. is due to report results from its Phase 3 trial of its plant-based vaccine that involved some 24,000 people, the last step of testing before possible approval.
The McMaster team’s vaccine is being trialed as a booster for people who have received two doses of an mRNA vaccine, such as Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna. The original idea, early in the vaccine race, was to offer it as a standalone, “but as time has gone on, virtually everybody has now had the opportunity to get an mRNA vaccine,” said Fiona Smaill, a professor of pathology and molecular medicine at McMaster who is leading the human trial.
But with SARS-CoV-2 set to linger for months, perhaps years, and more booster doses likely to follow, it’s still important to test new vaccines that work in different ways, Smaill said.
A potential godsend for the needle phobic, McMaster’s formula is administered through a jet nebulizer that generates a fine, misty solution, “with particles that are so tiny they’re breathed right down deep into the lung,” Smaill said. The delivery route is built on two decades of research on a tuberculosis vaccine led by McMaster professor Zhou Xing.

Once inside the lungs, the vaccine is designed to deliver a local “mucosal” response, right at the site where the virus enters the body. The aim is a broader type of immune response than can be achieved just by injecting into the muscles of the upper arm, including a more potent T cell response, the researchers said. T cells find and destroy infected cells.
The vaccine uses strains of a weakened adenovirus, a family of viruses that cause the common cold. Two are being tested on 30 healthy volunteers — a vaccine using a human adenovirus, the other a chimpanzee adenovirus.
In addition to the spike protein that peppers the outside of SARS-CoV-2 and that the virus uses to slip inside human cells, the vaccine targets two cellular proteins inside the virus that it needs to grow and spread. “Mutations would be rarely seen in those proteins,” Smaill said.
“If you can generate that local immune response in the lung,” it may prove better to boost with an inhaled vaccine, she said. Canada has also shown that mixing vaccines can trigger a stronger response. “For a number of reasons, this has the promise of being a more effective way to boost,” Smaill said.
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© Georgia Kirkos The vaccine draws on years of research from Zhou Xing, co-principal investigator and professor in the Department of Medicine.
Still, human trials are just beginning. Medicago has been submitting data to Health Canada as part of a rolling submission. The federal government has a contract to purchase 20 million doses. Medicago is also planning a study early in 2022 testing its vaccine as a booster.
Omicron has “supercharged ” the issue of boosters. If early anecdotal reports suggesting Omicron causes milder infections pan out, “I think we’re going to be okay,” Smaill said. But until more data are available, “we’re all guessing what’s actually going to happen.”
“We seem to be doing better, this time around, than we were a year ago. We’ve got vaccines. We’ve got an understanding of what the major risks are in terms of transmission. So we’ve made progress. How do we keep on, without ever going back? I think that’s really what I’m looking for.”
 

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COLUMBIA, S.C. (WCBD) – A federal judge on Tuesday blocked a Biden Administration requirement that would mandate healthcare workers be vaccinated for COVID-19, ruling in favor of South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson and the 14 other states that signed on to the lawsuit.

The government will no longer be able to enforce the mandate, however private hospitals and employers can still require COVID-19 vaccinations.
 
The government will no longer be able to enforce the mandate, however private hospitals and employers can still require COVID-19 vaccinations.

likely the intent the entire time.
 
Wonder how long until they forcefully use this airborne vaccine on the unvaxxed?


This COVID vaccine can be inhaled​

Canadian scientists are set to start testing an inhaled COVID-19 vaccine in humans that targets not only the ever-mutating spike protein the pandemic virus uses to grab onto human cells, but two others that aren’t nearly so prone to mutations.
AARy12A.png
© Provided by National Post Fiona Smaill and research coordinator Emilio Aguirre demonstrate the use of the nebulizer with a volunteer.
Instead of being injected into the deltoid muscles in the arm, the McMaster University vaccine is delivered via tiny aerosol particles breathed deep into the lungs.

The vaccine is part of a second generation of COVID-19 vaccines and one of two Canadian-made formulas that hope to offer a more robust, and more stable immune response. On Tuesday, Quebec-based Medicago Inc. is due to report results from its Phase 3 trial of its plant-based vaccine that involved some 24,000 people, the last step of testing before possible approval.
The McMaster team’s vaccine is being trialed as a booster for people who have received two doses of an mRNA vaccine, such as Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna. The original idea, early in the vaccine race, was to offer it as a standalone, “but as time has gone on, virtually everybody has now had the opportunity to get an mRNA vaccine,” said Fiona Smaill, a professor of pathology and molecular medicine at McMaster who is leading the human trial.
But with SARS-CoV-2 set to linger for months, perhaps years, and more booster doses likely to follow, it’s still important to test new vaccines that work in different ways, Smaill said.
A potential godsend for the needle phobic, McMaster’s formula is administered through a jet nebulizer that generates a fine, misty solution, “with particles that are so tiny they’re breathed right down deep into the lung,” Smaill said. The delivery route is built on two decades of research on a tuberculosis vaccine led by McMaster professor Zhou Xing.

Once inside the lungs, the vaccine is designed to deliver a local “mucosal” response, right at the site where the virus enters the body. The aim is a broader type of immune response than can be achieved just by injecting into the muscles of the upper arm, including a more potent T cell response, the researchers said. T cells find and destroy infected cells.
The vaccine uses strains of a weakened adenovirus, a family of viruses that cause the common cold. Two are being tested on 30 healthy volunteers — a vaccine using a human adenovirus, the other a chimpanzee adenovirus.
In addition to the spike protein that peppers the outside of SARS-CoV-2 and that the virus uses to slip inside human cells, the vaccine targets two cellular proteins inside the virus that it needs to grow and spread. “Mutations would be rarely seen in those proteins,” Smaill said.
“If you can generate that local immune response in the lung,” it may prove better to boost with an inhaled vaccine, she said. Canada has also shown that mixing vaccines can trigger a stronger response. “For a number of reasons, this has the promise of being a more effective way to boost,” Smaill said.
AARxYxx.png
© Georgia Kirkos The vaccine draws on years of research from Zhou Xing, co-principal investigator and professor in the Department of Medicine.
Still, human trials are just beginning. Medicago has been submitting data to Health Canada as part of a rolling submission. The federal government has a contract to purchase 20 million doses. Medicago is also planning a study early in 2022 testing its vaccine as a booster.
Omicron has “supercharged ” the issue of boosters. If early anecdotal reports suggesting Omicron causes milder infections pan out, “I think we’re going to be okay,” Smaill said. But until more data are available, “we’re all guessing what’s actually going to happen.”
“We seem to be doing better, this time around, than we were a year ago. We’ve got vaccines. We’ve got an understanding of what the major risks are in terms of transmission. So we’ve made progress. How do we keep on, without ever going back? I think that’s really what I’m looking for.”
now i'll start wearing the mask...
 
Almost 70 medics who attended a large Christmas party in southern Spain have since tested positive for Covid-19, authorities say.
Most of the 68 infected are doctors and nurses working in the intensive care unit at Málaga's regional hospital.
Health authorities said they were all at a party attended by about 170 people last Wednesday.
All guests returned negative antigen tests before the event but more than half are now isolating.
The infected staff were all fully vaccinated and are showing no symptoms
, health authorities said.
Local reports say doctors and nurses from other departments at Málaga's regional hospital in Andalusia have been redeployed to cover for their colleagues.

The outbreak has heightened concerns about the risk of spreading Covid at social events during the Christmas period.
To mitigate this risk, health authorities in Andalusia had advised hospital staff not to attend Christmas parties.
On Monday, Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez urged people to remain wary of Covid over the holidays.
"We must not lower our guard," he told reporters in the capital, Madrid.
Like many European countries, Spain has recorded an increase in Covid infections in recent weeks, raising fears of a deadly fourth wave of cases as the colder winter months approach.
 
likely the intent the entire time.
I'm betting that's their COVID exit strategy in regards to dealing with the virus itself on the political spectrum. They will roll out a bunch of stats to pat themselves on the back and move on as we invade some 3rd world desert shit hole to keep us distracted again. As for the measures those are here to stay just like taking your shoes off at the airport and all the other TSA rule stupidity, the precedence has been set on this over rotation over the past 20months.
 
I'm betting that's their COVID exit strategy in regards to dealing with the virus itself on the political spectrum. They will roll out a bunch of stats to pat themselves on the back and move on as we invade some 3rd world desert shit hole to keep us distracted again. As for the measures those are here to stay just like taking your shoes off at the airport and all the other TSA rule stupidity, the precedence has been set on this over rotation over the past 20months.
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Wife and I were talking about this last night. I don't think they can silently back away. If they do, they'll lose all power of fear/enforcement in the future.... IMHO....
 
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Wife and I were talking about this last night. I don't think they can silently back away. If they do, they'll lose all power of fear/enforcement in the future.... IMHO....
[Takes off tinfoil hat for a second] At the core these people are political swamp creatures, and once public support wanes and people lose some elections they will move on publicly, almost GW "mission accomplished" style but with more control. They will pivot to climate change and start using COVID style fear mongering and protocols to control that. [Tin foil back on for usual GCC postings]
 
Fed contractor here.. Waiting to hear what the company says about this. Currently we are required to be vaxxed, or have an approved exemption on file by 1/4/22. If you don't have those then on 1/5/22 you will be terminated.
 
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