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LooneyTech said:
I've gotten my ass kicked a few times with surge brake set-ups

... on flat ground, calibrated for a known weight, they work pretty damn well
... with an empty trailer / on inclines, or backing up they can really fawk the proccess up and make me look even more stoopider than i already am
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Thats what the lockout is for.
 
Stuck said:
That's what the lockout is for.
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fixed that for ya :flipoff2:



:shaking:

You don't tow much, do ya?



Yes, there is a lock out, but * generally * it requires the driver to exit the tow vehicle to install a mechanical device that prevents the actuation of the tongue mounted master cylinder. Of course that means there will be zero trailer brakes as long as the lock out is installed.

*caveat
There are electrically activated lockouts,and I've installed a few for some customers that haul equipment in rough terrain, but they have proven to be ... less than optimal ... and often jam up under load

... one of my favorite mentors was involved in a major accident on a jobsite when the equipment trailer jack knifed and then rolled the truck he was driving, so I'm not a fan to put it mildly


There's a reason electric trailer brakes are the standard of the industry ( in most cases ) for non CDL rigs

Being able to adjust braking force from inside the tow vehicle for varying conditions especially emergencies has made surge brakes all but obsolete
The instant programmability ( in both the level of immediate braking force and ramp up of braking force ) of the newer units is quite impressive, but it's an absolute life saver when the trailer brakes can be applied independently of the tow rig in certain dynamic conditions by simply activating the slider from inside the tow rig

my grandads old chevy from the 70's has an ancient analog unit that still works just fine :usa:
... slider is a lil sticky from being doused in coffee/alcohol and tobacco juice over the decades, but it flat works when you need it


... I'm sure there's a time and place for surge brakes, but I'll stick with electric trailer brakes myself as they've saved my ass many a time in all kinds of weather

nothing beats electric trailer brakes on an icy/snow covered road
 
LooneyTech said:
... one of my favorite mentors was involved in a major accident on a jobsite when the equipment trailer jack knifed and then rolled the truck he was driving, so I'm not a fan to put it mildly
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Considering the quality of your opinion it's not at all surprising that the guy you look up to got dead doing something stupid.

Surge brakes are fine. There's a reason they're standard on boat shit. Getting out to lock them out is no big deal for me.
 
1/3 full. Gonna fill this fucker up good.
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LooneyTech said:
fixed that for ya :flipoff2:



:shaking:

You don't tow much, do ya?



Yes, there is a lock out, but * generally * it requires the driver to exit the tow vehicle to install a mechanical device that prevents the actuation of the tongue mounted master cylinder. Of course that means there will be zero trailer brakes as long as the lock out is installed.

*caveat
There are electrically activated lockouts,and I've installed a few for some customers that haul equipment in rough terrain, but they have proven to be ... less than optimal ... and often jam up under load

... one of my favorite mentors was involved in a major accident on a jobsite when the equipment trailer jack knifed and then rolled the truck he was driving, so I'm not a fan to put it mildly


There's a reason electric trailer brakes are the standard of the industry ( in most cases ) for non CDL rigs

Being able to adjust braking force from inside the tow vehicle for varying conditions especially emergencies has made surge brakes all but obsolete
The instant programmability ( in both the level of immediate braking force and ramp up of braking force ) of the newer units is quite impressive, but it's an absolute life saver when the trailer brakes can be applied independently of the tow rig in certain dynamic conditions by simply activating the slider from inside the tow rig

my grandads old chevy from the 70's has an ancient analog unit that still works just fine :usa:
... slider is a lil sticky from being doused in coffee/alcohol and tobacco juice over the decades, but it flat works when you need it


... I'm sure there's a time and place for surge brakes, but I'll stick with electric trailer brakes myself as they've saved my ass many a time in all kinds of weather

nothing beats electric trailer brakes on an icy/snow covered road
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Just my boat 12k lb ish and the occasional equipment trailer. Ill stick with surge brakes on the boat since it gets dunked in salt water electric doesnt hold up to well. I have no issue getting out to lockout when backing it up. Takes 30 seconds, I dont tow down the road with it. How did the lockout cause your mentor to roll? Must be a dumbass.
 
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