we can comfortably say 30-50k deaths should have never even been mentioned and should be considered fraud, except for the "emergency mandates"
then there is the horribly morbid notion that of the remaining, 50-80% of those people who have passed were already not expected to survive this year. 75k-144k would have died during the same time period even if covid had never existed anywhere.
Then there is the comorbidity group that died this year, but wasn't exactly "expected" to die this year, maybe next, maybe later, who is to say, but likely soon. This is the "over 72 population" who are past the life expt. average with at least 1 comorbidity. Let's call them 15-40%? yup, they are a sad death
So then you have a group of people who absolutely did die and were killed directly from covid, either from the disease attacking and overhwelming their systems or malpractice at the Dr office, such as the admitted improper use of respirators in NYC. This group is where the ~6% number the CDC put out comes from. This is where the "12,000" deaths in the USA number comes from. this is serious, as it is roughly equal to a whole decade of people who are killed by knives in the USA.
buut, for a global pandemic of world ending proportions, it is HIGHLY likely that more people will commit suicide or die via homicide from the "shutdowns" than that same 12k people associated with the lockdows, and in the decades that follow, that is how and why people will Scream and articles will be published that roundly state "the prevention was many times worse than the disease"
oh, and regardless if you think travel bans "stop" virus' from spreading (i don't) keep in mind that Biden shit all over trump for the china/europe travel bans. No travel bans will certainly not delay or slow the spread of a virus, so his fucking claim that "trump is the only reason those poeple died, with him the number would be zero" is just another political fucking lie. Biden has made statements that show he would have supported letting it in here to spread more quickly, and then shut down the economy even more hard, then continued to fight for even more trillions in "emergency funding"
all of the worst parts of the current repsonse, on a grander scale.