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dunno man, figure they'll get rid of him when he becomes a liability

what better way to get people on board for grabbing freedoms than riding on the coattails of "bipartisan bill just passed"
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The media will protect Liberalism, not the Bidens, He is becoming a liability and i don't expect him to be their nominee for 2024.

Landslide said:
Pretty much how I feel. There’s going to be a come to Jesus’s day once all this crap boils to head. I think we’ll see it in the 2020’s too.
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I feel that way too, but my grandfather told me in the early 2000's before he passed that he had been expecting a civil war since the 60's and it never came. Maybe that feeling of dread is natural for people that have a little something to lose.

BUT, things are going to to get interesting and tight real quick if China makes a move on Taiwan, or if Russia drops a nuke on Ukraine. Weak men create bad times and we are at that point currently.
 
Bonanza said:
Logistically, I can't imagine how challenging it will be to pick an impartial jury in this regard. A unanimous verdict in a completely unbiased jury would be hard, but add in the human reality of it, and it seems to be perhaps the most challenging conviction to acquire of all time, perhaps.
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None of that matters. They'll just pick a judge, court, etc that will give them the verdict they want. It will continue to be that way as long as the courts are a scam and not punished for stupidity
 
Next week the fucking Dems will go after him for removing the tags on the mattresses in his hotels.
 
Animalmother said:
Trump

Bernie
Tulsi Gabbard
RFK
Joe Manchin when he steps outa line
Howard Dean
Elon Musk

They are waiting to toss Biden overboard

Basically anyone that can hurt the democrats
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well, thats a list but doesnt apply.

Trump: was never a democrat politician.
Tulsi: she turned on the Dems. after that she wasnt one of them.
RFK jr?: hes never been a Dem politician.
Joe Manchin: no one has turned on him. he gets support, funding, and concessions for his pork. sure, the commies grumble when he wont kill the philibuster or stack the supreme court, but they havent turned on him or run him out of office. hes still one of them.

Howard Dean: i dont follow this one. he was 3rd place in the primary in 2004, but i dont know how anyone turned on him. in a primary, someone has to lose. look at Kamala, and then they made her VP>

Elon musk: again, he was never a politician.




they arent going to toss Biden anywhere
 
Mikel said:
They worship the man, completely ignoring his policies, which are completely incompatible with anything the democrats stand for now. JFK would be to the right of Trump today.
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i dont see any JFK worship and havent in 30 years or more.
 
Texas97 said:
i dont see any JFK worship and havent in 30 years or more.
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It has certainly cooled down, as that generation is fading away. I doubt many democrats can name more than a couple of JFK's policies.
 
Thumping said:
It really doesn't matter anymore. DeSantis, Trump....or anyone else. Biden got more votes than Obama in either election. Anyone that actually believes that Biden won doesn't have two living brain cells to spark an original thought. They are only going by what they've been feed. Twit for example.

They have proven beyond doubt (any means necessary) that they will take an election...any election.

Our election system has failed us. Our justice system in all regards has failed us. The ship has been commandeered and wither we like it or not, theres only one way to get it back. Take it as it was taken.
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And yet here you are. Sitting on your ass like every other boomer. That's why the younger generations can wreck this country. They get out and get involved. Older generations sit and complain.
 
At 60yrs old, I can't even get mad any more. I've come to the conclusion that since I've only got another 30yrs or so left, I'm just going to watch clown world because every time I think this is as bad as it gets, someone says "Hold my beer." I'm actually impressed with just how fucked up things can get and everyone just acts like its normal.
 
Juztyn00 said:
I thought we were talking Deep state.
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not that i know of. we were talking about the Dems and the media.

while certainly part of the deep state machine, they are the the ones influencing public opinion. i dont see them throwing out anyone who is a good little soldier for them.
 
rockmup said:
At 60yrs old, I can't even get mad any more. I've come to the conclusion that since I've only got another 30yrs or so left, I'm just going to watch clown world because every time I think this is as bad as it gets, someone says "Hold my beer." I'm actually impressed with just how fucked up things can get and everyone just acts like its normal.
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in the end, the vast majority of people just want to be happy and enjoy their life. which is why one side lets things go and turns the other cheek because life is too short to constantly be fighting ALL the battles right?

well, thats why the commies have recruited the misfits, LGBTs and the like so they can keep them perpetually angry, always fighting, always willing to push and advance an agenda and never consider just living their lives and being happy. Its the biggest reason they dont want black people to succeed. they want that voting block to be angry, feel oppressed and feel ostrecized. Like we've said many times before, the demand for racism and hate crimes FAAAARRRR outpaces the supply. the supply is almost nothing. but the Dems need these so called "Hate crimes" to keep their little group very angry.

the rest of us want to work enough to afford to live nicely, be happy, eat a steak, drive a gas powered sports car/truck, teach our kids how to shoot and hunt, love a woman, worship God, smoke cigars, drink good whiskey, and not spend our lives mad as hell at the whole damn world.
 
Texas97 said:
not that i know of. we were talking about the Dems and the media.

while certainly part of the deep state machine, they are the the ones influencing public opinion. i dont see them throwing out anyone who is a good little soldier for them.
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Just depends if he could be more useful in other ways. Think of the gun control propaganda they could push if something were to happen to him.

They will dump him if he is hurting their cause, which some have started to do. This drip, drip , drip of bribery is starting to gain traction, even in liberal circles. It will be a soft dump to save face, something like an "illness"
 
Bonanza said:
Look, I think anything's possible. But until a claim has some tangible evidence behind it, it's just a claim. What's troubling about claims is that more often than not, they lead to toxic results. Like vaccines causing autism. Completely debunked, but the damage is done. I suppose I also have a benefit/curse of being a government employee. It's all the same, hideously dense bureaucracy. Even at the CIA, the best spies or insiders have yearly performance reviews where they have shit middle manager above them hating life and trying to make it seem like they're promoting synergy.

It's hard for me to believe any human beings employed by the government would lay eyes on a UFO being reverse engineered and not leak it. Fuck, I would. Imagine the payday if that was leaked. So for that example, it's possible, but highly, highly unlikely.

So far the biggest conspiracy theory I've been supporting, as it were, is Epstein's "suicide". I've come to terms that he probably did do it, but I'm not convinced. That thyroid bone takes a helluva lot of force to break, and I know that based on the forensic trainings I've done related to strangulation and proving damage to the throat. I also don't believe in extreme circumstance, ie the guards being asleep/on vacation, and the cameras not working, etc. So, that's juxtaposed with the fact that to be a conspiracy, a lot of people would have to be in on it and not leak. Also hard to believe. So I'm enormously suspicious of that whole thing, and haven't discounted that conspiracy entirely because there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that would support the fact he didn't kill himself.

So that's kind of how I approach these things.
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hyoid
;)
 
Motorcharge said:
How much of that is just vocally keeping up appearances vs what might happen alone in a polling booth.
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In this case, 0.
Motorcharge said:
People are for now likely to change their minds quietly than they are to openly admit to someone they were wrong about something.
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I'm aware. He has fully admitted being wrong for voting for Newsom twice. I'd bet good money he would do it again though.
 
Thumping said:
I'd look him straight in the eyes and tell him, then you get exactly what you deserve and you need to stop complaining about it.
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I have looked him straight in the eye on numerous occasions when he was complaining and told him "well, you voted for that crap over the last 30 years, enjoy".
 
Mikenike said:
And yet here you are. Sitting on your ass like every other boomer. That's why the younger generations can wreck this country. They get out and get involved. Older generations sit and complain.
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First, go fuck yourself as I'm gen X.

I'm giving it a great deal of thought to run for county commission the next election. Win or lose I'm probably going to throw my hat into the ring.

And for what it's worth, my generation along with the so called boomers actually work for a living. We don't have as much spare time as the younger generation that works 24 hours a week.
 
Texas97 said:
in the end, the vast majority of people just want to be happy and enjoy their life. which is why one side lets things go and turns the other cheek because life is too short to constantly be fighting ALL the battles right?

well, thats why the commies have recruited the misfits, LGBTs and the like so they can keep them perpetually angry, always fighting, always willing to push and advance an agenda and never consider just living their lives and being happy. Its the biggest reason they dont want black people to succeed. they want that voting block to be angry, feel oppressed and feel ostrecized. Like we've said many times before, the demand for racism and hate crimes FAAAARRRR outpaces the supply. the supply is almost nothing. but the Dems need these so called "Hate crimes" to keep their little group very angry.

the rest of us want to work enough to afford to live nicely, be happy, eat a steak, drive a gas powered sports car/truck, teach our kids how to shoot and hunt, love a woman, worship God, smoke cigars, drink good whiskey, and not spend our lives mad as hell at the whole damn world.
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You're not telling me anything I don't know.

I watched California go to shit because all the conservatives turned their heads to the gay and liberal shit that was happening in La. and S.F.
Because it wasn't happening in their backyard, they didn't care until it was too late and it proceeded to consume the entire state.

They did the same thing with water, let it all get shipped from the North to the valley and down to the South instead of making them build their own lakes to retain the rainfall/snow melt and water supply. Now the Delta and bay are fucked beyond repair. They could have/ should have done it before the Sierra club ever existed but here we are.
 
ev13wt said:
You can’t spell conservative without con.
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you should be cheerful for their existence
progressives can't get anything passed until conservatives trim it down to where it'll be accepted by the public

rinse and repeat a few times and the progressives have gotten everything they wanted in a slow enough fashion that it sticks around rather than being rolled back
 
For all those still on the fence about all the Orange Man Bad shit. An absolute ton of the accusations are cover for the Biden crime syndicate.

The numbers on the left are dates
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Roc Doc said:
Good points both. Making the jump from him spouting off a bunch of nonsense to him being at fault for inciting the Jan 6th riot, and that's all it was, a simple riot, not an attempt to overthrow the government like the media and justice department want us all to believe. Good luck in proving sedition.
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Make no mistake, this case, its' appeal, and ultimately SCOTUS review if there is a conviction, will be studied for generations to come. SCOTUS recently decided a criminal threats case, which shares space with the issues in this case. Ultimately, the line between free speech, and criminal speech.

My personal view on the 1st is a quasi-originalist stance, in that I think the framers intended the protection of civil, intelligence speech and discourse meant to sharpen humanity. This certainly includes critique of government. Certainly this ends where humanity is no longer being advanced, such as criminal threats, inciting mobs to riot, yelling "bomb!" in an airport, etc.

Your Bonanza prediction here is that he walks on the federal charge, but is likely going to go down on the lesser other cases he has.

I've stated from the beginning that if you're going to kill the king, kill the king. Trying to get Trump on this charge might well be the most challenging and peril-fraught prosecution of all time. If they "win", society loses. If they "lose", society loses. There is no good result from this. Based on that alone, I would have declined charges in the literal interest of justice. People commit crimes all the time and don't get charged for similar reasons.

Time will tell, but I suspect this chain of events will mark a low point in grand history of America. Win or lose, America is fucked by this.
 
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