The official I won't be getting assimilated (Vaccinated) thread

[Hooligan]

Any input from the guys who've had the Rona???

Yup, not getting it. The 12 hour fever I got was the weakest cold I’ve ever had. Where is the “cold” sickness vaccine?

 

[TrikeKid]

Haven't had a shot for anything since I was a kid, don't plan on changing that. I think if I was going to get it I'd have gotten the 'Rona by now, and I haven't.

 

[brd]

I have not had a flu in 30+ years,never have had the yearly vacs.Not gonna start now.I'm 65 and would be a prime candidate for it.

 

[trampas]

I can't be the only one here who has never been vaccinated for anything ever.

I'm just gonna continue that trend.

I get the common cold / common flu a couple of times every five years. I go down for about 5 days with the flu, and one day for a cold. I'll keep eating right, exercising, drinking plenty of fluids, and shit them all out in a pretty brown loaf like I've always done.

Sounds to me like the vaccine will make my turds glow.

Rona in the house last fall. Loss of taste, headaches, shortness of breath. I tanked up on good foods, fluids, and twice as much rest as when i catch the seasonal flu. If that's a big fuck you to the company with a silent P, the company with an alteration to the word modern, and the company with a shit track record that uses a surname twice in its moniker, then fuck em all.

 

[ArTi54N]

I have 2 main doctors.. one for my head, and one for the rest of me.. plus a few additional specialists (diabetes etc)

I definetly did not want to get it, cuz Im afraid of how Im on 14 meds, and I was scared of a reaction that they might not know about yet

my primary said she wouldnt worry about it, and to go ahead and get it, and that I already made the list.. right away.. and I was pretty sure she was being honest


my head doctor Im talking to tomorrow.. Ive been seeing him about 12 years, and I just get worse and worse with time.. I will see what he says and come back to this thread

 

[Poke]

Any input from the guys who've had the Rona???

It almost killed me. I had a very difficult time with H1N1. I’m young, active, healthy. So if these things tend to hit me very hard, I want all the protection I can get. For me and the people around me.

Rona is easy on most people so I understand the ‘meh’ attitude of most on the entire pandemic. I was there also till I was in the hospital.

on the vaccine. I see a thread full of people who are selfish, uneducated on the vaccine/approval, and hypocritical. The faster we to herd immunity the faster this goes away. The slower we get to herd immunity the more variations of the virus we will see and the longer restrictions will last. You bitch about restrictions and a mask yet do nothing proactive to help the situation, some in here said they won’t get it but also are not an anti-vaxer, lol. Sometimes pulling your weight helps you in the short and long term. Or you can do it for your family and friends to get us outta this mess faster.

The no trust in .gov, no trust in the news, and based on that people almost randomly pick what they ‘heard’ to believe = buncha anti-vaxers. It’s a sad situation and if rona was only the sniffles to me, I’d probably be an anti-Vaxer with all these stubborn folks.

 

[Slander]

Not anti vax at all, but I will sit this one for a while, and voted don't care. If I was absolutely forced to by my employer I would demand the J&J shot as that's a traditional style vaccine. That's assuming I couldn't get a vax card by other means. I work in 2 distribution centers going on 6months and get exposed probably daily, I'm 0% worried about the covids, and all the "you can still spread it even after being vaccinated" sends off my spidey sense about the true effectiveness of them.

 

[trampas]

It almost killed me. I had a very difficult time with H1N1. I’m young, active, healthy. So if these things tend to hit me very hard, I want all the protection I can get. For me and the people around me.

Rona is easy on most people so I understand the ‘meh’ attitude of most on the entire pandemic. I was there also till I was in the hospital.

on the vaccine. I see a thread full of people who are selfish, uneducated on the vaccine/approval, and hypocritical. The faster we to herd immunity the faster this goes away. The slower we get to herd immunity the more variations of the virus we will see and the longer restrictions will last. You bitch about restrictions and a mask yet do nothing proactive to help the situation, some in here said they won’t get it but also are not an anti-vaxer, lol. Sometimes pulling your weight helps you in the short and long term. Or you can do it for your family and friends to get us outta this mess faster.

The no trust in .gov, no trust in the news, and based on that people almost randomly pick what they ‘heard’ to believe = buncha anti-vaxers. It’s a sad situation and if rona was only the sniffles to me, I’d probably be an anti-Vaxer with all these stubborn folks.

A healthy perspective.

 

[DWT]

It almost killed me. I had a very difficult time with H1N1. I’m young, active, healthy. So if these things tend to hit me very hard, I want all the protection I can get. For me and the people around me.

Rona is easy on most people so I understand the ‘meh’ attitude of most on the entire pandemic. I was there also till I was in the hospital.

on the vaccine. I see a thread full of people who are selfish, uneducated on the vaccine/approval, and hypocritical. The faster we to herd immunity the faster this goes away. The slower we get to herd immunity the more variations of the virus we will see and the longer restrictions will last. You bitch about restrictions and a mask yet do nothing proactive to help the situation, some in here said they won’t get it but also are not an anti-vaxer, lol. Sometimes pulling your weight helps you in the short and long term. Or you can do it for your family and friends to get us outta this mess faster.

The no trust in .gov, no trust in the news, and based on that people almost randomly pick what they ‘heard’ to believe = buncha anti-vaxers. It’s a sad situation and if rona was only the sniffles to me, I’d probably be an anti-Vaxer with all these stubborn folks.

Congrats you're a 1%'r at something and it just happens that it's the flu lottery. It is nothing for damned near everyone but that 1ish percent it kicks right in the dick. My cousin was like that too and it did kill him but my brothers and I have all had worst colds just like most that actually have symptoms. The majority don't even know they have it.


I'm not anti vaccine at all, I've had all my shots for whatever growing up and I never get the flu shot. I get sick once every 3-4 years with anything worse than the sniffles so it's pointless in my eyes. They rushed the shit through without real trials etc and have set a precedent allowing the companies to toss their shit on the market immediately with no repercussions. Sounds like the begining of 28 days to me.

 

[Rerock]

Only way I'll get the shot is IF my employer mandates we start going back to the office, and IF they require a shot in order to come back.

I'm not a staunch anti-vax'er so I wouldn't quit my job over it.

 

[Aisin]

My wife got the moderna vaccine. She is an RN that works daily in a covid ward since the start of this shit. I am not getting it. The military put all kinds of nasty shit into my body that will most likely result in cancer. I’m not worried about it.

 

[Poke]

An Unapproved FDA shot cannot be mandated by an employer. My insurance company has sent me some educational material on the laws and precedents around this. An Approved FDA vaccine, can circumstantially be mandated by an employer.

The paperwork that came with my shot was very clear that the covid vaccine is NOT approved, but allowed to be distributed. So dont worry about a mandate until its an approved FDA Vac.

 

[woods]

An Unapproved FDA shot cannot be mandated by an employer. My insurance company has sent me some educational material on the laws and precedents around this. An Approved FDA vaccine, can circumstantially be mandated by an employer.

The paperwork that came with my shot was very clear that the covid vaccine is NOT approved, but allowed to be distributed. So dont worry about a mandate until its an approved FDA Vac.

Let's just hope it doesn't get FDA approved.

If we were having mass burns of bodies and losing people by the millions, ok I'll consider it. Outside of that, I'm all set. I don't even get my flu shot anymore.

 

[45acp]

It almost killed me. I had a very difficult time with H1N1. I’m young, active, healthy. So if these things tend to hit me very hard, I want all the protection I can get. For me and the people around me.

Rona is easy on most people so I understand the ‘meh’ attitude of most on the entire pandemic. I was there also till I was in the hospital.

on the vaccine. I see a thread full of people who are selfish, uneducated on the vaccine/approval, and hypocritical. The faster we to herd immunity the faster this goes away. The slower we get to herd immunity the more variations of the virus we will see and the longer restrictions will last. You bitch about restrictions and a mask yet do nothing proactive to help the situation, some in here said they won’t get it but also are not an anti-vaxer, lol. Sometimes pulling your weight helps you in the short and long term. Or you can do it for your family and friends to get us outta this mess faster.

The no trust in .gov, no trust in the news, and based on that people almost randomly pick what they ‘heard’ to believe = buncha anti-vaxers. It’s a sad situation and if rona was only the sniffles to me, I’d probably be an anti-Vaxer with all these stubborn folks.

I understand your point-

But...

My grandfather died of the flu (1998). Did/do you get a flu shot every year? Does the rest of your family? Maybe you or a family member killed my grandfather. Or maybe you had an experience like my wife a couple of years ago... gets flu shot, 2 months later gets sick, tests + for both A and B.



My wife and my parents got the vaccine. I'm not gonna.

 

[Pt_Ranger_v8]

Besides uniformed military, the current legal standing is that vaccines under Emergency Use Authorization cannot be required for employment. Once it is FDA approved it can be required.

It's not mandatory for the military either....hence why I'm waiting till I'm ordered

 

[D_JEEPER]

So I have been putting a lot of thought into this, as someone in the low-risk category.

So if I get the shot, all that it is guaranteed to do is to maybe possible reduce some sort of severe reaction to the virus.

-You still have to social distance.
-You still have to wear a mask.
-You can still be a carrier and transmit to others.
-You could have some adverse reaction to the shot. (not likely, but possible)
-There is no guarantee on long-term affects.

So tell me how not getting this rushed vaccine is selfish if I can still be a carrier and transmit the virus to others (who have not or have had the shot) after I have had my vaccine?

As a free and independent person, I have the ability to weigh out the pros and cons of things that directly affect me and thus, make an informed decision for myself as to what goes into my body. With that being said, I am not "anti-vax". I simply do not trust this yet...and the only thing that will build my trust is to let it be out for long enough to see if there are any long term side effects (Phase IV of the trials). At this point, I do not know how long that will be for me to feel comfortable. I might wake up tomorrow and say "Fuck it..." and be done with it, but I do not think so .

So I do not understand how it is "selfish" to not get the shot when it does not offer a cure, you can still carry it and you can still transmit it.

 

[Sniffler]

Neaux.

I'll be 68 in May. I've never had a flu shot or the flu. I don't go to rock concerts or have sex with trashy women anymore so what's the point.

AIDS has been around 40 years and still no vaccine, don't they care about the homersexshuals?

 

[bigun]

Well lets just add this news

https://www.theepochtimes.com/3-doz...e&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-03-03

3 Dozen Cases of Spontaneous Miscarriages, Stillbirths Occurring After COVID-19 Vaccination


BY MEILING LEE

March 1, 2021 Updated: March 1, 2021
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Thirty-four cases of pregnant women experiencing spontaneous miscarriages or stillbirths after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine have been submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).

VAERS is a passive reporting system that allows people to submit a report of an adverse event after vaccination and is run by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Research funded by the CDC has shown that fewer than 1 percent of reactions from vaccinations are being reported on VAERS.

Reports made to VAERS do not necessarily mean that a vaccine may have caused the event or reaction. Miscarriages are labeled as spontaneous abortions or abortions in the reporting system.

Many cases of spontaneous miscarriages occurred in the first trimester, or the first 12 weeks of the pregnancy, with 25 occurrences after being immunized with a Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. While the four cases of stillborns occurred in either the second (weeks 13-27) or third trimester (weeks 28-40).

According to Verywell Health, an online resource on health-related issues: “Research suggests that between 10% and 20% of women with a medically confirmed pregnancy will end in miscarriage. Eighty percent of these will occur during the first trimester.”



In one case, a physician in Tennessee, at five weeks pregnant, suffered a miscarriage 13 days after being immunized with a Pfizer vaccine. The 31-year-old woman had no known allergies or medical history.

While a 33-year-old Indiana nurse in her third week of pregnancy had a miscarriage five days after receiving her second Pfizer vaccine. She also reported that the adverse event caused a birth defect.

And a 32-year-old woman in Virginia who was eight weeks pregnant reported having a miscarriage five days after being injected with the first dose of a Moderna vaccine in January. She had consulted with two obstetrics and gynecologists (OB-GYN) prior to receiving the vaccine on Jan. 14. She experienced abdominal cramping and vaginal bleeding two days later and had a miscarriage on Jan. 19. She had only been taking prenatal vitamins.

In Michigan, a 35-year-old woman who was 28 weeks and five days pregnant said that the baby’s movements decreased two days after her first Pfizer vaccine in December 2020. The woman delivered a stillborn baby weighing two pounds and seven ounces at 29 weeks. She was being closely monitored for an umbilical cord abnormality called velamentous cord insertion.

Both Pfizer and Moderna did not respond to a request by The Epoch Times for comment.

In addition, the FDA did not reply to The Epoch Times’ inquiry on whether the regulatory agency will be looking into the VAERS report. An FDA spokesperson told The Epoch Times in an email that their subject matter experts working with vaccines are “quite busy” at the moment.

Dr. Shelley Cole, MD, an OB-GYN and a member of America’s Frontline Doctors, says it’s concerning that a vaccine still in an experimental phase is being recommended to pregnant and lactating women and that science is no longer protecting them.

“As an obstetrician-gynecologist, it is a concern,” Cole told The Epoch Times. “We’re [now] throwing science and the scientific medicine method out the window and jeopardizing pregnancies and future pregnancies.”

“It concerns me that the CDC says that there are no studies, but it’s okay to get it and you don’t even need to discuss it with your doctor,” Cole added. “I mean this is the opposite of everything that the scientific models and methods, and standard of care has been for a century.”

In its guidance on “Vaccination Considerations for People who are Pregnant or Breastfeeding,” the CDC says that pregnant or lactating women who are “part of a group recommended to receive COVID-19 vaccine, such as healthcare personnel, may choose to be vaccinated” and that they are not required to discuss with their doctor “prior to vaccination” even though there is limited evidence “available on the safety of COVID-19 vaccines” in this group.

There is also no safety data on the “effects of mRNA vaccines on the breastfed infant or on mild production/excretion,” yet the vaccine is “not thought to be a risk to the breastfeeding infant.”

The World Health Organization (WHO), in a news release on Jan. 8, said it does not recommend the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine for pregnant women unless they are at high risk of exposure, such as a health care practitioner.

“Pregnant women are at higher risk of severe COVID-19 than non-pregnant women, and COVID-19 has been associated with an increased risk of pre-term birth,” the WHO said. “However, due to insufficient data, WHO does not recommend the vaccination of pregnant women at this time.”

The WHO initially put out the same recommendation for the Moderna vaccine on Jan. 26, but revised it three days later, saying “we don’t have any specific reason to believe there will be specific risks that would outweigh the benefits of vaccination for pregnant women,” thus pregnant women in the health care environment or “who have comorbidities which add to their risk of severe disease” may receive the vaccine.

Pregnant or lactating women were excluded from both the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccine trials, but Pfizer is currently conducting a phase 2/3 trial on 4,000 healthy, pregnant women who will be given the shots during the second and third trimester.

Governmental health agencies and health care personnel who recommend the vaccines claim that pregnant women “have an increased risk of severe illness, including illness that results in ICU admission, mechanical ventilation, and death compared with non-pregnant women of reproductive age.”

Dr. Denise Jamieson, MD, MPH, chair of the Department of Gynecology and Obstetrics at Emory University School of Medicine, recommends pregnant women get the vaccine regardless of what trimester they are in and recognizes that safety data is lacking.

“If you’re a health care worker in a healthcare setting, you’re at risk every day,” Jamieson told JAMA Network on Feb. 8. “So I would advise to get vaccinated soon and not delay regardless of the trimester.”

“I think one of the other things that’s really important is just because we think the benefits outweigh the risks, that doesn’t let us off the hook in terms of describing the risks,” Jamieson added. “And I think that’s one thing that I’m concerned about is that, you know, 15,000 women have been vaccinated, pregnant persons have been vaccinated, and yet we really have stunningly little safety information and that’s not okay.”
Hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19


The current CDC guideline for COVID-19 positive patients is to isolate at home and monitor symptoms while staying hydrated and taking “over-the-counter medicines, such as acetaminophen.” Medical treatments are only available for hospitalized patients.

Cole—while certified in OB-GYN, now focusing only on gynecology—has treated over 550 patients with COVID-19, and says she understands the fear pregnant women may have of contracting a severe illness from COVID-19.

But she disagrees with the CDC, saying people have the option of being treated early with hydroxychloroquine instead of waiting until the disease progresses requiring hospitalization. She also recommends taking 1000 milligrams of vitamin C twice a day and “2000 to 5000, international units a day” of vitamin D to help strengthen the immune system.

Individuals should discuss with their physician before taking the supplements.

“So it is scary, it is scary, but the vast majority of women that are pregnant are under the age of 40, the death rate is extremely low,” Cole said. “And people do not have to go to the hospital if they’re treated early, or if they use early prevention.”

“Now hydroxychloroquine is safe to use in pregnant women, it’s safe to use in any age group, it’s safe to use in breastfeeding women,” she added.

Hydroxychloroquine is an FDA-approved medication in use for 65 years to treat lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and malaria. It is prescribed to various groups of people including pregnant or lactating women, children, and immune-compromised individuals.

The politicization of the drug continues to overshadow studies that show hydroxychloroquine is safe and effective in treating COVID-19.

According to c19study.com that tracks clinical trials on hydroxychloroquine around the world, all 27 hydroxychloroquine studies on early treatment reported a “positive effect and an estimated reduction of 65 percent in the effect measured (death, hospitalization, etc.)” However, the drug is “not effective when used very late with high doses over a long period.”

The FDA says hydroxychloroquine is not approved for the treatment of COVID-19.

Vaccine manufacturers that were granted an emergency authorization from the FDA are given immunity from liability for any adverse event that may be experienced after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine. Individuals injured from the vaccine must file a claim within one year and prove their injury under the Countermeasure Injury Compensation Program, established as a result of the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (pdf) in 2005.

 

[665.0coupe]

I'm not going to get it mainly because I think the virus is being blown out of proportion. I understand people have died and some people have had really bad cases, but the overall death rate is very very low. We have killed the economy and small businesses, screwed up the education system, and turned peoples lives upside down for a virus that is about 98% survivable. I also agree that the vaccine was rushed through to fast.

I don't get the flu shot every year and I've only gotten the flu really bad one time about 15 years ago. My GF got the rona just before Christmas. I tested positive for antibodies about a week before she tested positive. Apparently I had it and never had any symptoms. She was sick for about 3 days then fine.

 

[DirtRoads]

It's a no for me for a very simple reason.

The known risk of long term effects of the virus are significantly lower than the unknown risk of the vaccine in my demographic, healthy 31y/o. Not taking it until I have to. I typically don't get the flu shot either with good results.

 

[Wheelin66bronco]

Hard no.
RIght from Moderna, it's not even a vaccine, says right in the patent.

 

[Squamch]

Nope. Not interested.

 

['84 Bronco II]

Any input from the guys who've had the Rona???

I haven't taken any protective measures since the "pandemic" started (no mask, still traveling out of state, spending time with large groups of people, etc.). My wife got Covid-19 from a coworker and gave to me in December. It was a big bunch of nothing for us, and like others have said, I have had regular colds that were much worse. I had a little congestion and a sore throat for three days and couldn't smell anything at all, but I could taste just fine and I was drinking beer and working in my freezing shop while I had it. Had it been any other year I would have gone into work since you couldn't really tell that I was sick.

I am not going to get the vaccine, not because I am scared of vaccines, but because I don't care at all if I get it again and it was no big deal in my opinion. Kind of like the flu shot; I am not scared of possibly getting the flu, so I don't bother with getting a shot. I was vaccinated for all the normal stuff when I was younger, and I don't get sick very often, and when I do, it is pretty much never debilitating.

Now despite everyone claiming that vaccines are perfectly safe and you are a "science-denier" if you don't blindly take them at their word, there are risks associated with vaccines. This vaccine having been rushed out has not had enough time for the risks and side effects to be well understood. A friend of my parents had a kid the same age as me who was a perfectly healthy and normal child until he was vaccinated for school. He was the one-in-a-million who got seriously fucked up by a vaccine (I don't remember specifically which one it was, but it was one of the vaccines required for public school). That kid became bound to a wheel chair and retarded, like can't speak and sits there drooling on his shoulder retarded. That was a thoroughly tested "safe" vaccine. I am not interested in taking any sort of risk like that with an unproven vaccine over something as trivial as Covid-19. Maybe if this shit were something actually serious like Small Pox or Bubonic Plague I would be jumping in line to get a vaccine, but not for this weak-ass Covid-19 shit :rolleyes:

 

[scooter2374]

My Mrs. works in the hospital and got the shot. She asked about me, since she gets a +1 for anybody she wants. I told her it would take being handcuffed with a gun to my head to get the shot.

 

[Poke]

I understand your point-

But...

My grandfather died of the flu (1998). Did/do you get a flu shot every year? Does the rest of your family? Maybe you or a family member killed my grandfather. Or maybe you had an experience like my wife a couple of years ago... gets flu shot, 2 months later gets sick, tests + for both A and B.



My wife and my parents got the vaccine. I'm not gonna.

I do get a flu shot now. I did not pre H1N1.

I get your point though.

 

[Dirtyjed]

Not getting vaccine.
Hell, only 35% of the giant hospital I work at volunteered for it.

 

[posford]

Wife works in a small assisted living facility and got peer pressured into getting the vaccine and now regrets it. I have no intention to get it.

 

[TatonkaII]

I'm in the boat that says if there was something wrong with the vaccines then we would be in a world of hurt if all the medical field went down. The nurses I've talked to in SC say most hospital employees are taking it with the exception of some minorities.

Will I take it? Leaning more towards no, but I havent made up my mind. A friend of mine who was a healthy guy almost died from covid and now has organ issues.

 

[rockota]

I'll avoid it until I can't.

So far, my employer has said they will not mandate. I can't say the same for my clients, though...

 

[Icono]

I'm in the boat that says if there was something wrong with the vaccines then we would be in a world of hurt if all the medical field went down. The nurses I've talked to in SC say most hospital employees are taking it with the exception of some minorities.

Will I take it? Leaning more towards no, but I havent made up my mind. A friend of mine who was a healthy guy almost died from covid and now has organ issues.

He wasn't "healthy".

'K?