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Stepping up my tow rig game

blthomas said:
Running stock tire size with the 4.56s?

Re gearing is high on my list for my 02' as is the trans cooler upgrade. Wife's cancer bled me dry, hoping to do gears this summer.
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I was thinking about how getting a cheap gas rig and just regearing it super low would be probably the best bang for the buck. There's a guy on here who did 4.56s and said it wasn't worth the money, iirc he was thinking about going 5.13s :laughing:

I'd spend some time with a gearing calculator for sure. Because 4.10 to 4.56 isn't going to be a huge difference.

Edit: messing with a calculator. Going from 3.73s to 4.56s would be almost a perfect split between 3rd and 4th in a 4r100 with a .71 od. Or 4.88s for 4.10s.

Also, running down the highway in 3rd would be about the same as 5.38s.

Just to give people an idea on how regearing actually would be like. I've just heard so many people talk about how they wish they'd gone lower, I try to do as much figuring as possible. I think a lot of people are afraid that they'll be screaming down the highway if they do more than 1 or 2 ratios different.
 
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YotaAtieToo said:
I was thinking about how getting a cheap gas rig and just regearing it super low would be probably the best bang for the buck. There's a guy on here who did 4.56s and said it wasn't worth the money, iirc he was thinking about going 5.13s :laughing:

I'd spend some time with a gearing calculator for sure. Because 4.10 to 4.56 isn't going to be a huge difference.
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I had a '08 v10 f350 with 5.38s. 3k @ 70mph. 9mpg loaded or not and it didnt give a fuck. Sold it for a pretty penny and they love the truck, worked daily.

I'd buy another in heartbeat, and I have half dozen diesels laying around. Towrig gassers need deep gearing, mpg is fucked to begin with.
 
blthomas said:
Running stock tire size with the 4.56s?

Re gearing is high on my list for my 02' as is the trans cooler upgrade. Wife's cancer bled me dry, hoping to do gears this summer.
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Stock tire size pretty much. Ditched the 16's, replaced with 17's off an '11 F250. 265/70 I think
 
YotaAtieToo said:
I was thinking about how getting a cheap gas rig and just regearing it super low would be probably the best bang for the buck. There's a guy on here who did 4.56s and said it wasn't worth the money, iirc he was thinking about going 5.13s :laughing:

I'd spend some time with a gearing calculator for sure. Because 4.10 to 4.56 isn't going to be a huge difference.
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I went from 3.73 to 4.56. Big improvement, but in hindsight I would do 5.13/5.38
 
TRINDU said:
I had a '08 v10 f350 with 5.38s. 3k @ 70mph. 9mpg loaded or not and it didnt give a fuck. Sold it for a pretty penny and they love the truck, worked daily.

I'd buy another in heartbeat, and I have half dozen diesels laying around. Towrig gassers need deep gearing, mpg is fucked to begin with.
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Stock sized tires?

Glad to hear it worked. I'd bet a 2wd gas work truck could be had cheap, then regear to 5.xx and peel out.

Like you said, it will eat fuel either way. But your trans will be happier in 3rd and 4th vs 2nd and 3rd. Or just hunting.
 
stock up pipes and airbox probably leaking. I would adress that and cps like others said.

Before you do up-pipes, decide between full out T4 and injectors etc, or

just budget route like china up-pipes, kc balanced assembly, china 1.0 housing and 160's with used 17* SD hpop, SD intercooler

Before you do anything, I would make a long haul with it and see if your happy with the step back in comfort
 
YotaAtieToo said:
Stock sized tires?

Glad to hear it worked. I'd bet a 2wd gas work truck could be had cheap, then regear to 5.xx and peel out.

Like you said, it will eat fuel either way. But your trans will be happier in 3rd and 4th vs 2nd and 3rd. Or just hunting.
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I wish more of the 6.2 Fords had been ordered with 4.30’s
 
rockdog57 said:
Holy batshit robin! You guys must not have any 80 mph stretches in your area. I can’t imagine a v10 screaming at 80 with 5.13s
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3200 rpm, not that crazy. Probably wouldn't pull that in od with taller gears anyway.

Gbkeith said:
I wish more of the 6.2 Fords had been ordered with 4.30’s
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6.2 would be a perfect truck for deep gearing with the tall 6th gear.

I've towed pretty heavy with one and sucks being in 1-2-3 in the mountains. Especially with the 1-2 gap.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
Stock sized tires?

Glad to hear it worked. I'd bet a 2wd gas work truck could be had cheap, then regear to 5.xx and peel out.

Like you said, it will eat fuel either way. But your trans will be happier in 3rd and 4th vs 2nd and 3rd. Or just hunting.
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whatever the 19.5s were, easily a 33" tire.

rockdog57 said:
Holy batshit robin! You guys must not have any 80 mph stretches in your area. I can’t imagine a v10 screaming at 80 with 5.13s
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Its a mod motor, it'll scream at 3k all day, every day. V10s don't have the stupid phasers either.
 
Yall are soft and don't know what you're talking about:flipoff2:




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Juuuust kidding..stock brakes, steering, power, cooling system and trans all suck on an OBS so I changed everything. That truck will be a dog in stock form hauling 2 rigs, and thats coming from someone thats owned 3 OBS 7.3s...:laughing:
 
Nvr-enough said:
Yall are soft and don't know what you're talking about:flipoff2:


Juuuust kidding..stock brakes, steering, power, cooling system and trans all suck on an OBS so I changed everything. That truck will be a dog in stock form hauling 2 rigs, and thats coming from someone thats owned 3 OBS 7.3s...:laughing:
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thats exactly it. Everyone who says they tow good has quite a bit of time and money into mods.

I could have probably bought a 6.7 cummins or psd with the amount of money I've spent on mine over the years :laughing:
 
Well on a different note, that note being weight distribution, the JKU is way more biased towards the front than I would have thought.

I did an alignment after getting all the hydro and new clockspring in. Rear was on tires, 41s, EVO DTD, PR60 and set stands just behind trans crossmember. The thing wanted to tilt forward and raise rear. Had to reposition stands to just behind control arm mounts.

I find that crazy, basically tipping point to CG is at A pillar. I would figured center of front doors.

With that info, correct me if I'm wrong but that seems like if I loaded the JKU last pointed forward that would put the weight pretty centered over front axle and not much behind that.
 
makemeknowit said:
I went from 3.73 to 4.56. Big improvement, but in hindsight I would do 5.13/5.38
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I've been playing with the calc, my slide in project isn't done so I don't know its weight, neither is my jeep but I'm leaning heavily on 5.13s. 3055 @ 80mph on stock tires size. I never tow fast anyway, so probably always 70mph or less. I think that would be a good cruising pace for my 02' loaded up with camper and trailer with CJ7.


rockdog57 said:
Holy batshit robin! You guys must not have any 80 mph stretches in your area. I can’t imagine a v10 screaming at 80 with 5.13s
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Calc said 3055 on stock tires. I haven't logged the miles in a gasser towing like some here, but many have told me my v10 was built to live in those rpms, and my limited experience tells me the same. I'm east coast don't have many of those speed zones around me.
 
thefukkwhat?
Puhleeeeeze tell me them are adapters
 
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350TacoZilla said:
I think you will find those are hubcaps. truck should be standard 8x6.5 pattern.
I knew a guy with a 97-98? F250 that was 7 lug, same dude ended up getting the next generation F150 and struck out again with 7 lug.
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Let’s hope this is true. I just read about Ford putting 7 lug hubcaps on 8 lug trucks during those years. This makes no sense but at least it’s not nearly as bad as them being actual 7 lug wheels
 
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NDCjeepsmith said:
Well on a different note, that note being weight distribution, the JKU is way more biased towards the front than I would have thought.

I did an alignment after getting all the hydro and new clockspring in. Rear was on tires, 41s, EVO DTD, PR60 and set stands just behind trans crossmember. The thing wanted to tilt forward and raise rear. Had to reposition stands to just behind control arm mounts.

I find that crazy, basically tipping point to CG is at A pillar. I would figured center of front doors.

With that info, correct me if I'm wrong but that seems like if I loaded the JKU last pointed forward that would put the weight pretty centered over front axle and not much behind that.
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Your reasoning isn't correct. Just because it wanted to transfer wieght with the stands there doesn't mean that it's super front heavy. It's just that you created a cantilever effect with the stands vs it sitting on tires. I'd bet it's much closer to 50/50 depending on how much stuff you pack in the back, hard or soft top, ect.

Get your junk on a scale if you Really want to know.
 
flexy flatty said:
Let’s hope this is true. I just read about Ford putting 7 lug hubcaps on 8 lug trucks during those years. This makes no sense but at least it’s not nearly as bad as them being actual 7 lug wheels
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7 lugs were the light 250’s and heavy 150’s, which were the same truck that just got a different name depending on the year. OP has a F-250 heavy duty, so it’s an 8 lug truck with 7 lug hubcaps.
 
Yup, first was 97 f250's in the new f150 bodystyle. Then it changed to a 7700gvwr f150 in 98 or 99. Retarded ford
 
flexy flatty said:
Look again, that truck has the retarded Ford 7 lug pattern
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Clb said:
thefukkwhat?
Puhleeeeeze tell me them are adapters
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Another set of idiots outed by the ubiquitous 7-lug plastic hubcap. :flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2:

Someday I'm gonna come across a set of free 7-lug wheels and I'm gonna use the bridgeport and rotary table to make them fit something just to fuck with people. :laughing:
 
I’ve never really understood why it irritates people so much. There are gawd only knows how many different 5 and 6 lug patterns and wheel sizes. It’s not any worse than going to a metric 8 lug pattern once they started making super duties.
 
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