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ThePanzerFuhrer said:
The auto garage near me burnt to the ground 2 years back because of what you posted. They heated the garage like that for probably 15-20 years. One day it got away and Burnt the bitch to the ground. Insurance said too bad so sad. Quite a few of the neighbors helped him rebuild.
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exactly
good for something like a forge or melting furnace
not really good for mindless everyday heating

One guy I've seen doing one of them drip fed burners, he has a corded drill hooked up to a shutoff valve on the oil
that is powered through a thermostat in the flue
flue gas gets over 600 and it shuts off fuel automatically

still not something I'd trust
 
[486] said:
exactly
good for something like a forge or melting furnace
not really good for mindless everyday heating

One guy I've seen doing one of them drip fed burners, he has a corded drill hooked up to a shutoff valve on the oil
that is powered through a thermostat in the flue
flue gas gets over 600 and it shuts off fuel automatically

still not something I'd trust
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Are we living in bazaar-o world? I would have bet the farm you would have been 100% on board with this method. :lmao::flipoff2:
 
[486] said:
exactly
good for something like a forge or melting furnace
not really good for mindless everyday heating

One guy I've seen doing one of them drip fed burners, he has a corded drill hooked up to a shutoff valve on the oil
that is powered through a thermostat in the flue
flue gas gets over 600 and it shuts off fuel automatically

still not something I'd trust
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So, this guy built a fucking rube goldberg machine to operate a safety shutoff valve. :lmao:

 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
The auto garage near me burnt to the ground 2 years back because of what you posted. They heated the garage like that for probably 15-20 years. One day it got away and Burnt the bitch to the ground. Insurance said too bad so sad. Quite a few of the neighbors helped him rebuild.
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Not really sure how it could get away. Soon as you shut the valves the flame is out in about 30 seconds. Maybe they didn't clean the chimney regularly or something
 
chaplinfj60 said:
do tell more about this oil burner, how long does it take to fire up? hell in one night i would use a gallon witch is not alot considering how much oil get changed around here. that would be alot easier than cutting wood....
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A paper towel soaked in diesel/gas mix in the rotor start the drip and light it. About 1 min later turn the air on. That's it. Stove is 300* in about 5 min. Alot easier then wood.
 
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
The auto garage near me burnt to the ground 2 years back because of what you posted. They heated the garage like that for probably 15-20 years. One day it got away and Burnt the bitch to the ground. Insurance said too bad so sad. Quite a few of the neighbors helped him rebuild.
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Concrete floor, CMU wall, move the oil supply father away and throw a tray under the wood stove to contain the inevitable flaming mess and it'll be fine.

RSWORDS said:
Running it pretty hard in the video to see what it would do. Eailsy melted the stainless pot under the rotor and got the rotor flowing cherry red.
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You need something more substntial under that, preferably not made of metal and with an air gap between it and the stove floor.

RSWORDS said:
Not really sure how it could get away. Soon as you shut the valves the flame is out in about 30 seconds. Maybe they didn't clean the chimney regularly or something
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They set the valve too far open because the room was 40deg and so was the oil, as the room heats up the oil gets less viscous and the stove starts running away. Eventually the whole stove is glowing orange, your copper line is 300deg, your oil bucket is 150deg and something that's 10ft away decides to burst into flame from the radiant heat.

In an all masonry building with nothing combustible anywhere near the stove or the flue it would be fine but how many garages/shops do you know that meet that criteria?
 
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This was the shop that burnt down cmu walls and concrete floor. Still cleaned the fucker out.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
This was the shop that burnt down cmu walls and concrete floor. Still cleaned the fucker out.
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So what caught on fire first then?

It's not like there aren't places that do carbon arc gouging indoors. You just gotta treat the stove with that same "will randomly ignite things 10ft away" level of respect and it's easy to get complacent...
 
arse_sidewards said:
So what caught on fire first then?

It's not like there aren't places that do carbon arc gouging indoors. You just gotta treat the stove with that same "will randomly ignite things 10ft away" level of respect and it's easy to get complacent...
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Stove did, flames go high enough to hit trusses then game over.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Stove did, flames go high enough to hit trusses then game over.
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Yup. That'll do it.

When you said CMU and concrete I was figuring he was in an old industrial building with bar trusses and a corrugated roof.

I can see one of these oil conversions igniting a wood roof just via the thimble. They aren't rated for ~1k EGTs.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Yup. That'll do it.

When you said CMU and concrete I was figuring he was in an old industrial building with bar trusses and a corrugated roof.

I can see one of these oil conversions igniting a wood roof just via the thimble. They aren't rated for ~1k EGTs.
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You've never gotten your wood stove to 1k? :lmao:

Its super easy to maintain 500-600. And a heavier stainless pot I already in it.
 
RSWORDS said:
You've never gotten your wood stove to 1k? :lmao:

It’s super easy to maintain 500-600. And a heavier stainless pot I already in it.
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I heat 26,000 square feet unconventionally. I have the waste oil I have the wood stoves I refuse to do this. What I learned during my 30+ years of wood heating that with everyday heating you get complacent. It needs to be absolutely bullet proof because you’re gonna be doing other things other than minding the stove.

That chunk of iron is glowing red that is about 1800 degrees which is completely unnecessary to heat a building like that.

We have a huge hook and skids on our shop wood stoves. Just incase they get away we can hook a loader to them and jerk them outside.

This will be the last I say about it. It’s up to you if you think this is the way to do it or not. I will say if you burn you or your buddies shop down because of it I will be laughing my ass off.
 
RSWORDS said:
You've never gotten your wood stove to 1k? Lol
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arse_sidewards said:
1k stove is a little different than 1k up where it goes through the roof. :laughing:


It's clearly melting stainless so you're just delaying the inevitable. Get something built for those temps.
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Surprisingly the chimney runs cooler then with wood. Not sure why.

It is through a block wall with metal suround sewage pipe in the pass thru.

It was a cheap thin Chinese dog bowl.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
I heat 26,000 square feet unconventionally. I have the waste oil I have the wood stoves I refuse to do this. What I learned during my 30+ years of wood heating that with everyday heating you get complacent. It needs to be absolutely bullet proof because you’re gonna be doing other things other than minding the stove.

That chunk of iron is glowing red that is about 1800 degrees which is completely unnecessary to heat a building like that.

We have a huge hook and skids on our shop wood stoves. Just incase they get away we can hook a loader to them and jerk them outside.

This will be the last I say about it. It’s up to you if you think this is the way to do it or not. I will say if you burn you or your buddies shop down because of it I will be laughing my ass off.
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It was his design that will burn it down. Lol

Alot of people around here run the same setup. He's been running the same stove with wood, that burns as hot (under normal use) with hotter chimney temps for years.... 🤷 still don't know why the chimney temps are lower the. With wood. 300ish when the stoves around 600. All I can figure is because the burn is contained to such a small area it's not drafting the flames up the chimney like it does with wood.

Charcoal burns about 2k.... sooooo why's the brake drum more dangerous? Also when you cut the oil and air its out in 30 seconds. No oil sits In the pan nothing left to burn unlike leaving a wood stove smoldering when you go inside.

But yes. 1k is extreme. It was more of a "what will it do" super easy to keep it 500-600 on the top the stove. You need to dial the oil back as it thins when ambient temp comes up. When running "normal" it's a super thin stream/heavy drip.
 
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Now in my shop I take my waste oil heater a bit more seriously :lmao:

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