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Shit Bull attack leaves 'Pit Bull' rescuer dead, female owner seriously injured.

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As a kid I was attacked by a pit bull at about 6 years old not my family dog. We had 3 pit bulls at the time so I thought it was like my dogs at home I was wrong. Needless to say yea I got bit in the face but that was it. The dog was chained up and broke loose. After that incident the dog was caged. We lived in the country so we had ours chained up in the yard well at least 2 of the 3. The third was in a kennel it had a 5 foot wall he would jump it wander off and always come back and be sitting on his house at night acting like he never left.

Eventually they all passed on due to age. Oddly enough the only dogs that they attacked were each other. Any other dog could walk in the yard they could care less.

But what I hate is the bullshit agenda of people trying to praise them as innocent animals. Yes I will admit I was taken to dog fights as a kid. None of ours were ever used for that nature. I had some shady former inlaws so to speak back in the 80s.

As for the agendas. Don't tell me they are cute and innocent and get bad raps. If that were the case why are there so many of the fucking things in animal shelters. Because people don't know what they got into. If you are not a home owner well you want a roof you live by someone else's rules. Hence the shelter solution. Or people have children and now the dog is all of a sudden a threat.

Then lets throw in clipping ears and tails. Fuck that nonsense. I personally would never own another one and I don't think they should continue to be bred as they are. If you look at the owners of most of them they are usually not that innocent themselves I have learned.

On a side note living in south florida currently it really pisses me off to see the number of people with large dogs that people have while living in high rise condos and apartments. I mean seriously who needs a fucking saint bernard living on Brickell in a studio apartment. Thats not even fair to the dog and then the piece of shit owners cant figure out why the dogs hesitate to go back into the building after leaving a miniature pyramid on the sidewalk.
 
Don't you live in Michigan? I'm going to let the old dog loose this morning. He'll kill his way across the state and hunt you down. Cujo style. Grrr! :flipoff2:

Look, you're dishonest. It's that simple.

You have seen the statistics and seen the stories (if not read them). You choose to ignore that so you can do what you like: Own a vicious dog that is barely under control because it reflects back on you, you believe it increases your 'tough' perception.

You're dishonest. You know you own a vicious dog. Then you go around claiming it's not vicious dog, when the ONLY characteristic a Pit Bull has is a reputation for Viciousness.

You are dishonest in your dealings, you require the law or someone watching you to stay honest, you'll cheat and lie whenever you can get away with it.

Pit Bulls are like a flashing warning light.
 
Look, you're dishonest. It's that simple.

You have seen the statistics and seen the stories (if not read them). You choose to ignore that so you can do what you like: Own a vicious dog that is barely under control because it reflects back on you, you believe it increases your 'tough' perception.

You're dishonest. You know you own a vicious dog. Then you go around claiming it's not vicious dog, when the ONLY characteristic a Pit Bull has is a reputation for Viciousness.

You are dishonest in your dealings, you require the law or someone watching you to stay honest, you'll cheat and lie whenever you can get away with it.

Pit Bulls are like a flashing warning light.

Is that your idea of trolling? Constant personal attacks just to get people riled up? Come on, man. I agree with your point here, then you start spewing vitriol. It's boring.

You've got some interesting arguments with good facts backing them, but "You're a big poopyhead!" isn't one of them.
 
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Look, you're dishonest. It's that simple.

You have seen the statistics and seen the stories (if not read them). You choose to ignore that so you can do what you like: Own a vicious dog that is barely under control because it reflects back on you, you believe it increases your 'tough' perception.

You're dishonest. You know you own a vicious dog. Then you go around claiming it's not vicious dog, when the ONLY characteristic a Pit Bull has is a reputation for Viciousness.

You are dishonest in your dealings, you require the law or someone watching you to stay honest, you'll cheat and lie whenever you can get away with it.

Pit Bulls are like a flashing warning light.

For a domesticated pet to be vicious, it must first exhibit vicious behavior. Reputation= lol
Reputation doesn't mean shit. Border Collies have the reputation of being sweethearts. A Border Collie gnawed my cousin's ear off when he was 6. Pit bulls have a reputation of being vicious- yet for 19 years i grew up on a farm with pitbulls and never even witnessed one bark at another person, let alone bite or attack.

Use the data however you want but "reputation of being" is just ridiculous. Cmon angry guy, you can do better. :flipoff2:
 
Look, you're dishonest. It's that simple.

You have seen the statistics and seen the stories (if not read them). You choose to ignore that so you can do what you like: Own a vicious dog that is barely under control because it reflects back on you, you believe it increases your 'tough' perception.

You're dishonest. You know you own a vicious dog. Then you go around claiming it's not vicious dog, when the ONLY characteristic a Pit Bull has is a reputation for Viciousness.

You are dishonest in your dealings, you require the law or someone watching you to stay honest, you'll cheat and lie whenever you can get away with it.

Pit Bulls are like a flashing warning light.

Yup, they're all viscous killers that can't be controlled. :lmao:

Evernoob, probably best you get a pet turtle or goldfish.

Not sure why he didn't kill me while I slept.

Lots of dangerous things out there in the world. Dogs are one of them. Keep your dog under control. Be wary of strange dogs. Keep your crotchfruit away from dogs that aren't trustworthy.

Ps. Let the killer dog loose. He's coming to get you evernoob!
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I work with a lady thats all pro pitbull, constantly talking her two up. She came to work with her hand bandaged due to pitbull attack from one of her "babies". She took them both to the shelter. Glad it didn't attack her infant son.

There has been a pitbull attack here in the RV park in the last 6 months. Pit bull attacked another dog after the pitbull pulled out of its collar.

I'm not a fan of them.
 
I think our dog is broken

Our neighbors run cattle on three sides of us during certain times of the year (I don’t know about raising beef ). The beef and the dog will sit at the fence line and sniff each other. One time I went out to find a calf licking my dogs face, he just looked back at me like “These are friendly” :laughing:
 
I think our dog is broken

Our neighbors run cattle on three sides of us during certain times of the year (I don’t know about raising beef ). The beef and the dog will sit at the fence line and sniff each other. One time I went out to find a calf licking my dogs face, he just looked back at me like “These are friendly” :laughing:
No, your dog just isn’t a heeler....

Now that’s a breed that is smart as hell, mostly honey badger, and can be mean as fuck.
 
Meow. Pit bulls are a big splash on insurance numbers. Blah Blah Blah. These are real numbers. I do not put any merit in the comment that the Pit Bull bite data is bogus. That is actually stupid and emotional, but stupid. The insurance numbers are driven by claims. It's economics, it's money. Pit bulls cost because they do in fact bite and cause injury, monetary loss. There is no argument. No Poodles or Lhasa Apsos on the insurance radar screen. Woof. I may actually go look at our policy if I really give a shit and care to add anything to this fetus fest. Fuck a blender everyone :lmao:

Exactly.

We have a Mastiff/Pitt mix and a GS/Coyote mix. According to Noobs first post, my wife and I are going to be eaten by these two savages someday in our sleep.

If I disappear you guys will know who to blame....
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For a domesticated pet to be vicious, it must first exhibit vicious behavior. Reputation= lol
Reputation doesn't mean shit. Border Collies have the reputation of being sweethearts. A Border Collie gnawed my cousin's ear off when he was 6. Pit bulls have a reputation of being vicious- yet for 19 years i grew up on a farm with pitbulls and never even witnessed one bark at another person, let alone bite or attack.

Use the data however you want but "reputation of being" is just ridiculous. Cmon angry guy, you can do better. :flipoff2:

Did.... you mistake me for someone else? I don't care about your experience or popular reputation. LOL. You must have thought I was one of your buddies.

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Adults don't give one shit about anecdotal experience in cases like this. Insurance companies are not in the business to refuse to insure you or drive you off with high rates. Apartment complexes are not in the business to refuse to lease to pit bull owners. That's not how it works.

It's not a conspiracy, it's rational prejudice based on good data.
 
MIA and sorely missed, especially in this thread- Overbear and Jensenkennels.
 
Yup, they're all viscous killers that can't be controlled. :lmao:

Evernoob, probably best you get a pet turtle or goldfish.

Not sure why he didn't kill me while I slept.

Lots of dangerous things out there in the world. Dogs are one of them. Keep your dog under control. Be wary of strange dogs. Keep your crotchfruit away from dogs that aren't trustworthy.

Ps. Let the killer dog loose. He's coming to get you evernoob!
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Sigfried and Roy worked with wild animals for 50 years, they always said never let your guard down and realize that you are never in control, and they still got attacked which ended Roy's career in 2003.

So, two absolute experts who work with animals say that you are not in control of animals, and then there is you, who loves to own a Pibble because it's edgy and you get internet points like an Instagram thot.

I believe Sigfried and Roy. You are quite clearly ignorant of how animals work.

A human child's right to make a mistake > your dog's right to exist. That's why they kill dogs that maul children, which are mostly pit bulls. Also to prevent parents from torturing the owner to death. If your dog attacks a child, jail will be safest place for you.
 
No, your dog just isn’t a heeler....

The only dog that has ever attacked me was a healer. I was on the property before he was brought here by a niece, we were not strangers

After attacking me, I resisted shooting the dog while warning my niece that her dog was a problem. He bit three other people before he had to be put down


We have had Pits sharing our roof for over twenty five years with no human aggression issues ever
 
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Is that your idea of trolling? Constant personal attacks just to get people riled up? Come on, man. I agree with your point here, then you start spewing vitriol. It's boring.

You've got some interesting arguments with good facts backing them, but "You're a big poopyhead!" isn't one of them.

Not trolling, I think the guy knows that the dogs are vicious, and just enjoys the attention and edginess of saying how gentle and great the poor victim Pibbles are because everyone is so mean. From what he's posting, I think that's why he owns the dog. He really shouldn't own any animal with that attitude.

Many people get pitbulls for that exact reason. So they can be edgy and spend time defending them and proving how compassionate and cool and tough they are.
 
Yes that is why people get them. So they can look cool.

Are ever wrong about anything?


I didnt "get" mine. Came with my girlfriend. Hes been a great dog. About as smart as you are but we still sleep with him every night.

A buddy of mine had one stolen from him. Pupped out and beat on. Showed back up at his house about 8months later just happy and fun as could be to be home again.

How the hell do you even post with your head stuffed so far up your ass? Some sort of snorkle and micro visor with retinal control? Im mean i know youre a giant ass but theres no way youve got your head and a hand and a phone in there.
 
Where are the Chihuahuas (ankle biters) on the "list"? I've been bitten twice, yup, skin broke & bleeding

I've been bitten on the nose and eyelid by a teacup chihuahua of course I was taunting it though.

Where are pugs on this list? Mine is pretty vicious to other dogs and people who take my attention from him.
 
Pits might not bite as often as a chihuahuas, but when they do it's much worse. Comparing them is retarded.. sorry, I haven't had my coffee yet.

I've had a pit for two years and I am still learning his triggers. It's not fun figuring those out.
 
Did.... you mistake me for someone else? I don't care about your experience or popular reputation. LOL. You must have thought I was one of your buddies.

I'm popular? Well goddam this is awesome! 1st time in over 4 decades! Although I assume you do care just a little bit about reputation... since your entire argument is based off of a domestic pet's REPUTATION.

And FWIW I'm friends with one of the guys rolling around in your head. You never met him. We can all hope that one day when "you", "it", "they"... whatever the fuck you are.... one day when the right combo of meds takes effect that other guy will win and the 3 or 4 douchebags in there with him will be respectfully put to rest.
 
Government legislation..... noob has a problem and wants it fixed with laws??????
Because that always works!!!!

You’ve uncovered your boogeyman noob!!!!
 
Where are pugs on this list? Mine is pretty vicious to other dogs and people who take my attention from him.

That's interesting you say that. We had a 3/4 Pug Jack Russell cross, he was great up until about 9mths when he started getting extremely jealous and was aggressive towards our other dog whenever she was getting attention. There was nothing we could do positive or negative to discourage the behaviour so we re-homed him with the caveat of being the sole dog. His new family were experienced dog owners and he did well for a number of weeks until he started showing the same behaviour but this time it was directed towards their 9mth old baby (he was great with their older kids 7&4) They ended up passing him on to her mum who is an older lady who was on her own and he's apparently happy as a pig in shit.
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Imo dogs are like humans, some are awesome no matter what they go through, most are normal with their own quirks, some are traumatized by their life and some are just plain psycho. Judging a single breed by the actions of some is overkill but at the same time making excuses for bad behaviour doesn't help either.

We try to breed out physical health issues so why not do the same with mental issues?
 
Yes that is why people get them. So they can look cool.

Are ever wrong about anything?


I didnt "get" mine. Came with my girlfriend. Hes been a great dog. About as smart as you are but we still sleep with him every night.

A buddy of mine had one stolen from him. Pupped out and beat on. Showed back up at his house about 8months later just happy and fun as could be to be home again.

How the hell do you even post with your head stuffed so far up your ass? Some sort of snorkle and micro visor with retinal control? Im mean i know youre a giant ass but theres no way youve got your head and a hand and a phone in there.

Anecdote, dismissed, grow up.

Where are the Chihuahuas (ankle biters) on the "list"? I've been bitten twice, yup, skin broke & bleeding

Anecdote, dismissed, grow up.

Report it to the Ins Company by making a claim. That's how the data is gathered.

I've been bitten on the nose and eyelid by a teacup chihuahua of course I was taunting it though.

Where are pugs on this list? Mine is pretty vicious to other dogs and people who take my attention from him.

Anecdote, dismissed, grow up.


You guys answered the question. The reason Pit Bulls make lists and others don't, is when a teacup dog bites you, it's not a big deal.

When a Pit Bull latches on to an 11-month old, it's death.
 
I'm popular? Well goddam this is awesome! 1st time in over 4 decades! Although I assume you do care just a little bit about reputation... since your entire argument is based off of a domestic pet's REPUTATION.

And FWIW I'm friends with one of the guys rolling around in your head. You never met him. We can all hope that one day when "you", "it", "they"... whatever the fuck you are.... one day when the right combo of meds takes effect that other guy will win and the 3 or 4 douchebags in there with him will be respectfully put to rest.

I was referring to this in your post I quoted:

For a domesticated pet to be vicious, it must first exhibit vicious behavior. Reputation= lol

It was right there in the record, but you are yet ANOTHER person who spends their time worrying about popularity, reputation, and everyone's internal emotional state, and attributing your own thoughts to me.

You literally argue like a woman or adolescent.

I have posted facts. The people refuting me have posted feelings.

This problem is growing worse among you guys. You comprehend with your imaginations, but you don't know the limits of your imagination. Reductionism should be your guideword. Reductionism.

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We try to breed out physical health issues so why not do the same with mental issues?

Behavioral issues have been bred out of GSDs and Doberman Pincers. Those are two dogs which were specifically bred for aggression and high energy, but in the 1970s they started getting a bad reputation. Docility was bred into them. The lines are distinct enough that people seeking the characteristics of a GSD, the sloping back and smaller rear legs, large powerful neck, upright ears, coloration, etc, chose to buy 'legitimate' dogs which were also bred down in aggression.

There is only one type of aggression despite what (Got bit all the time) Caesar says. The dog can manifest it other ways, but aggression comes from the endocrine system of an animal including structures in its brain. There is no physical distinction between food aggression and people aggression, lol. That's ridiculous Psuedoscience.

That can't happen with Pit Bulls. Their breeding record is basically ghettoites beating a batch of puppies and figuring out which ones respond with aggression, and which ones cower. The cowering ones are used as bait dogs, and the aggressive ones are bred and fought. The characteristics of 'Pit Bulls' are not distinct, and the characteristics people want out of them are aggression, strength, and intimidating looks.

That's why Pibble owners claim "Buh-but there's no real pit bull! Buh-but mine is an American Staffordshire Terrier!" when that's all nonsense. Pibbles are a genetic mess, inbred, high-strung, and vicious. They should be eliminated. There is no salvaging that genetic dead-end.
 
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