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I am putting together another 10t or so, to run Monday.
 
I was just thinking about starting this thread.
My trailers only half full after 1 year. I have some stainless, copper, and aluminum, but I'm sure alot of it is steel. I was thinking wait another month then scrap no matter what. Or is it still going up for the next year?
 
ANGELO said:
I was just thinking about starting this thread.
My trailers only half full after 1 year. I have some stainless, copper, and aluminum, but I'm sure alot of it is steel. I was thinking wait another month then scrap no matter what. Or is it still going up for the next year?
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are you someone that's thinking about buying gold and silver?

might wanna keep the copper rather than turning it into cash
know of a guy sitting on a warehouse of aluminum ingots, he scraps the steel and all then uses the money from that to pay his guys and have a local foundry melt down the aluminum scrap into ingots for him to hang onto for lean times
 
For you guys hauling tons of scrap, what is it you do that you have access to thousands of pounds of metal? Genuinely curious.
 
Pony_Driver said:
For you guys hauling tons of scrap, what is it you do that you have access to thousands of pounds of metal? Genuinely curious.
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Me and my buddies generate it.

The kid that made 120,000 in a few days sells heavy duty trucks. He usually buys rear discharge mixers from the rust free south. He rips the mixer off dolls it all up and sells the cab and chassis.

Between what I destroy and what I fix I make a bunch of scrap. My magnets will pick a few tons a day when we are crushing recycle.

Other buddy buys shit that’s super cheap off Craigslist. He likes old equipment. Old cable dozers and what not. They are super heavy and cheap. He displays them in his pit along the highway. Now the way scrap is I would doubt the whole row gets turned in, and he’ll start over.
 
[486] said:
are you someone that's thinking about buying gold and silver?

might wanna keep the copper rather than turning it into cash
know of a guy sitting on a warehouse of aluminum ingots, he scraps the steel and all then uses the money from that to pay his guys and have a local foundry melt down the aluminum scrap into ingots for him to hang onto for lean times
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That’s cool. I bet he does that because the ingots can’t be stolen without a forklift and it reduces the amount of room needed to store them.

A friend owns a water jet shop and they do something similar. They save all the aluminum stainless copper skeletons. They wait until hard times to scrap. That scrap pile paid many months of payroll.
 
Pony_Driver said:
For you guys hauling tons of scrap, what is it you do that you have access to thousands of pounds of metal? Genuinely curious.
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Demolition Derby was my main hobby. Now I just collect junk according to my wife. I am also collecting stuff for Rat Rod builds I may get to sometime in the future.
I bought 2 cars from my neighbor for $75 each. But instead of scrapping them my 8 year old grandson and I are having more fun driving them around my 4 acres. When something goes bad on them or they run out of gas I'll scrap them out.
 
Pony_Driver said:
For you guys hauling tons of scrap, what is it you do that you have access to thousands of pounds of metal? Genuinely curious.
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A lot of my hobbies involve junk vehicles and many friends are always on the lookout for cheap or free junk for me.

I did pretty well with the catalytic converter market as well this year. It's taken a dip as of late though.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
That’s cool. I bet he does that because the ingots can’t be stolen without a forklift and it reduces the amount of room needed to store them.

A friend owns a water jet shop and they do something similar. They save all the aluminum stainless copper skeletons. They wait until hard times to scrap. That scrap pile paid many months of payroll.
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yup, stack them ten feet high and nobody can slide one off the pile into their truck with a prybar
the main high side I always fixate on is that high value metals you come across as scrap don't have any sort of brokerage fees, like buying gold and silver do where you've gotta pay above what its worth
 
i have not cashed out in a while. i have way over 100k#s right now. everything from parted out truck fames to military axles and a some square body shit. looks like Tuesday will be a run.
 
Starting to think about a few major runs. We have a few years worth piled up.

The last few were from my house, lol.
 
[486] said:
yup, stack them ten feet high and nobody can slide one off the pile into their truck with a prybar
the main high side I always fixate on is that high value metals you come across as scrap don't have any sort of brokerage fees, like buying gold and silver do where you've gotta pay above what its worth
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Figure out how I can ship my hematite and magnetite to the steel guys. I’m game If we would have have to build small scale blast furnace. As long as it look like a outdoor wood stove we are gtg.

My sand runs 2-3% of it in it. I run 2000 ton a day. That’s 40-60 ton a day of it.

Lol just thinking hematite is version of iron oxide. I wonder if the old thermite reaction could use this stuff to ignite.

Yeah officer I don’t really know how that 100 ton pile started of fire.
 
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ThePanzerFuhrer said:
Figure out how I can ship my hematite and magnetite to the steel guys. I’m game If we would have have to build small scale blast furnace. As long as it look like a outdoor wood stove we are gtg.

My sand runs 2-3% of it in it. I run 2000 ton a day. That’s 40-60 ton a day of it.

Lol just thinking hematite is version of iron oxide. I wonder if the old thermite reaction could use this stuff to ignite.

Yeah officer I don’t really know how that 100 ton pile started of fire.
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five year plan:
steel production quota 40 ton/day

you just got a pile of black sand in your yard somewhere ATM?
I'd have to imagine someone will give you money for it, but getting through all the fucking middleman brokers that don't have a clue is gonna be painful

the amount of aluminum you'd need to get the iron out would be too expensive to turn a profit
 
lagunaMS said:
Super small scale in comparison but is it worth throwing food cans in the metal pile? Don't want to be throwing away money even if it's miniscule
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Unless you have a can crusher beside wherever you open the food cans the wasted volume in whatever you use to transport scrap likely more than offsets the value. Furthermore, if you don't rinse them out you'll get animals and bugs. If you do then the water bill definitely more than offsets the value. Just my $0.02

If you open two dozen cans a day and already sort your recyclables it might be worth it.
 
lagunaMS said:
Super small scale in comparison but is it worth throwing food cans in the metal pile? Don't want to be throwing away money even if it's miniscule
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I do. I just set an old truck bed in the yard for small scrap and fill it up with cans, drops, wire, small sheet iron, etc. Then I haul the bed in when its full after a big rain, cans catch a lot of rain water...
 
Pony_Driver said:
For you guys hauling tons of scrap, what is it you do that you have access to thousands of pounds of metal? Genuinely curious.
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Nowadays I just buy any free to $100 car that comes to me, or I pay more for stuff I can part out, full-size trucks, 4wds, V8 cars, etc
I have 5 acres in the boonies with a fence and $350yr taxes, I cut the cats off, pull tires and wheels worth stealing and try to minimize tweaker losses. I'll sell an engine, tranny, axle occasionally, when scrap spikes, I grab the 3 least desirable cars and put 1k in my pocket.

It's time for me to reshuffle, advertise all my parts, get the hulks ready to haul on a spike and use the cash for other stuff

Like buying more junkers for $75:laughing:
 
Projectjunkie said:
Nowadays I just buy any free to $100 car that comes to me, or I pay more for stuff I can part out, full-size trucks, 4wds, V8 cars, etc
I have 5 acres in the boonies with a fence and $350yr taxes, I cut the cats off, pull tires and wheels worth stealing and try to minimize tweaker losses. I'll sell an engine, tranny, axle occasionally, when scrap spikes, I grab the 3 least desirable cars and put 1k in my pocket.

It's time for me to reshuffle, advertise all my parts, get the hulks ready to haul on a spike and use the cash for other stuff

Like buying more junkers for $75:laughing:
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My niece totaled her liability only car this weekend. It was a Pontiac vibe and doesn't have any parts worth selling that I can tell. I assume it's worth the effort to cut the cat off and sell it separate? Is there anything special I need to know to get the most value out of this thing at the scrap yard? She needs every dime she can get to buy another car.
 
Void_of_Light said:
My niece totaled her liability only car this weekend. It was a Pontiac vibe and doesn't have any parts worth selling that I can tell. I assume it's worth the effort to cut the cat off and sell it separate? Is there anything special I need to know to get the most value out of this thing at the scrap yard? She needs every dime she can get to buy another car.
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You need to do the math.

My scrap yard has 2 prices for cars complete and in complete. Complete need to have engine trans battery converter radiator. Incomplete if it has anything else.

Make sure you Pop the tires off or they will deduct a extra for each one.
 
Just get it moving under its own power and you'll get 3x scrap value on CL in under a day.

Doesn't have to look nice or be legal, just move well enough for some tweaker to pay you and drive off.
 
Trust me, if I could get it moving she would be driving it. There isn’t anything left to reconnect the wheel.

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That's a long weekend project if you're not a snob about body lines.

Install replacement (new or used) struct, CV, LCA and TRE so it can yard drive. Pull bumper covers, light and fender, pull back into shape-ish install replacement parts for headlight and other broken plastic bits (or just don't having a working windshield wash bottle doesn't really add much in that market segment). Zip tie stitch bumper cover stuff back together. Throw fender liner in trash and slap on a new outer fender. If the door hits the fender then attach the edge of it with a hammer until it doesn't. The key is to truly not give a fuck.
 
arse_sidewards said:
That's a long weekend project if you're not a snob about body lines.

Install replacement (new or used) struct, CV, LCA and TRE so it can yard drive. Pull bumper covers, light and fender, pull back into shape-ish install replacement parts for headlight and other broken plastic bits (or just don't having a working windshield wash bottle doesn't really add much in that market segment). Zip tie stitch bumper cover stuff back together. Throw fender liner in trash and slap on a new outer fender. If the door hits the fender then attach the edge of it with a hammer until it doesn't. The key is to truly not give a fuck.
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He’s more close to being right than wrong. $500 at the scrap yard and it would be drivable again.

And yes the key is to not give a fuck. If you cannot get hole in fender to line up a couple self tappers will do kind of don’t give a fuck.

All depends on how many airbags went off.
 
There is no way repairing it makes financial sense. Sure in a zombie apocalypse scenario where this is the only car available It could be made to run down the road. As hard as the govt is trying to make that happen, we aren't there yet.

There is damage to the other side as well. She pinned it between a tree and a barbed wire fence. It sheared off a 7" wood post at the ground level using the drivers side.. it's missing 2 windows, and the drivers air bag deployed. The passenger side inner fender is wedged against the engine, it cranks but I have no idea how many pulleys and accessories are broken. Every overflow bottle is broken and the radiator is toast.

I just don't see anyway to even break even by putting any amount of work or money into it.
 
ThePanzerFuhrer said:
He’s more close to being right than wrong. $500 at the scrap yard and it would be drivable again.

And yes the key is to not give a fuck. If you cannot get hole in fender to line up a couple self tappers will do kind of don’t give a fuck.

All depends on how many airbags went off.
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And the best part is if you price it fairly for what it is you can show the buyer exactly what you did and didn't do and they'll still be happy to buy it because they are still getting a good value for their money. That's how good business is done.

Resistors are cheap, or just leave the airbag light on.

Void_of_Light said:
There is no way repairing it properly makes financial sense. Sure in a zombie apocalypse scenario where this is the only car available It could be made to run down the road. As hard as the govt is trying to make that happen, we aren't there yet.

There is damage to the other side as well. She pinned it between a tree and a barbed wire fence. It sheared off a 7" wood post at the ground level using the drivers side.. it's missing 2 windows, and the drivers air bag deployed. The passenger side inner fender is wedged against the engine, it cranks but I have no idea how many pulleys and accessories are broken. Every overflow bottle is broken and the radiator is toast.

I just don't see anyway to even break even by putting any amount of work or money into it.
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Pics of damage? I think 486 is looking for a shitbox he can graft to a landscape trailer. This can be his test mule.
 
Void_of_Light said:
My niece totaled her liability only car this weekend. It was a Pontiac vibe and doesn't have any parts worth selling that I can tell. I assume it's worth the effort to cut the cat off and sell it separate? Is there anything special I need to know to get the most value out of this thing at the scrap yard? She needs every dime she can get to buy another car.
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The cat could be 150 to 375, if you're looking for top dollar, eBay seems to be the hot ticket

That car might have a valuable engine, and tranny, if 5 speed, it shares parts with the Toyota matrix and corolla, and had oiling issues, it is likely worth parting out, or selling to somebody to fix, just make sure the title gets swapped right so a flipper can't fuck you with a parking ticket
 
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