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It never even occurred to me that would be fair game to scrap even for you people. I just figured that was a trailer you had around for doing trailer things with. :lmao:


That street sweeper frame is the first thing you've posted that can arguably go to scrap as is though obviously someone who does stuff and builds stuff would probably find a few things to pull off and shelve along the way.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Always amazes me how non-industrious and non forward thinking people in the desert are. Even the most stereotypical lazy southerner would keep something like that kicking around until the forest claims it in case he needs some parts for a project or perhaps give it to someone who does and be owed the favor in return.
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Just curious, do you consider yourself more or less industrious than the guy with the big dually, the 10t trailer, and the backhoe running $3500 a day in scrap?
 
Projectjunkie said:
Just curious, do you consider yourself more or less industrious than the guy with the big dually, the 10t trailer, and the backhoe
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I don't know what else he could've or would've been doing with his time and that equipment so I'm not gonna make that judgement in his case. Heck, maybe the dude can't turn a wrench so having useful parts kicking around helps him no more than it would help a soccer mom. But I'm pretty sure you own some old POS Dodge dually so the answer is gonna be yes by default. :flipoff2:


Projectjunkie said:
running $3500 a day in scrap?
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3500 this day. Not 3500 a day. There's a difference. You'd make a good salesman, lobbyist, lawyer, etc.

Thanks for reminding me I have a rant for the investments thread though. :flipoff2:
 
arse_sidewards said:
It never even occurred to me that would be fair game to scrap even for you people. I just figured that was a trailer you had around for doing trailer things with.
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The trailer was free, already loaded with the scrap. It's a heavy tilt trailer. I also kept the pile of plate that was on the bottom. Its different than the other yellow trailer I hauled the dumptrucks on.

If I can find bearings for the tilt trailer I might use it to haul the old loader in. LOL. I would have to find a bigger truck to pull it though.
 
Scrapping doesn't pay shit. The value of the materials you scrap usually far outweighs the amount you would get for scrapping it. Cutting all the absolute junk off and keeping the good shit is the highest value you can get, but takes a higher time investment. Worth it if you plan on using the materials in the future.
 
IUsedtoBendCars said:
Name your top 3 projects for a 16' hydraulic cylinder. Of unknown condition. That's the wild card.
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Extended or compressed? Single or double acting? Multi stage?

Elevator

DIY rollback or winch body

Tilt deck or dump trailer or truck body (package it using a triangle link).
 
Steve300xcw said:
How much of that crap have you actually built?
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None because I don't have a giant ass cylinder around or a multi-story garage (yet).

But if I did you can bet your ass my trailer would have been a tilt deck.

Could still cut the tongue off and make it happen if I wanted to but fuggit.
 
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I do keep some of that junk around.

But the smoothest way for me seems to be turning junk into fiat, then buying a tilt deck trailer and modifying it as needed, then finding more junk to convert to fiat to repay my fiat savings.

Least effort, and I get a useful trailer.

Just lazy I guess
 
Projectjunkie said:
I do keep some of that junk around.

But the smoothest way for me seems to be turning junk into fiat, then buying a tilt deck trailer and modifying it as needed, then finding more junk to convert to fiat to repay my fiat savings.

Least effort, and I get a useful trailer.

Just lazy I guess
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The economics of this that sort of stuff rarely pencil out if not using the object you're buying for a full time business or the labor used in the alternative is not performed in lieu of directly profitable work. So unless you're doing tilt trailer shit as your day job you're better off either making do with what you already got or using non-productive time to make what you got better. If you were to buy the tilt trailer it'd be unlikely to actually be a net positive value over its lifetime because you're just not using it in enough volume for the difference vs what you got to matter.
 
arse_sidewards said:
The economics of this that sort of stuff rarely pencil out if not using the object you're buying for a full time business or the labor used in the alternative is not performed in lieu of directly profitable work. So unless you're doing tilt trailer shit as your day job you're better off either making do with what you already got or using non-productive time to make what you got better. If you were to buy the tilt trailer it'd be unlikely to actually be a net positive value over its lifetime because you're just not using it in enough volume for the difference vs what you got to matter.
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I pay no annual tax on trailers

I pay $4mo theft insurance

I've never sold a trailer for less than I've paid for it.

I personally consider it to be a better investment than a 401k

I buy some decent things that I think will last me 10-40 years and use them while they seem to rise in value with inflation

I don't know what to fucking tell you, it's working for me.
 
IUsedtoBendCars said:
That was a very large hydraulic ram. Heavy as crap. I couldn't think of a single reason to keep it.
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Huh.

I've got six or seven of those, single acting from car hoists, so only about 8' long. Dunno what to do with them, but at the very least they're big rod stock and nice DOM tubing.

Had thoughts recently about making my flatbed into a dumpy flatbed, but I dunno if that's the right use for them, prolly a lot better off finding a scissor hoist for it
 
Projectjunkie said:
15 hours into it and you've gotten a $5k trailer? You're doing pretty good:laughing:
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Thanks. I did alright this week. I spent another 2 hours today to grab the last of the stuff and tram my machine home.

The tilt trailer probably isn't worth 5 grand. It's too big. Like 900x20 tires. Air brakes big. No title. Needs 8 tires and I'm sure every brake component is bad. Would be good on a farm to be pulled around with a tractor. Probably it's only good use. LOL.
 
[486] said:
Had thoughts recently about making my flatbed into a dumpy flatbed, but I dunno if that's the right use for them, prolly a lot better off finding a scissor hoist for it
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If you have enough length to package it maybe copy what the MDT chip trucks around here do.

A rear leaf spring hanger looking (way more beef, obviously) mount that lets them mount one end of the cylinder below the frame below the cab (so it has some angle when the bed is flat) and then it pushes on the bed under the middle somewhere. Rear hinge, obviously. They use a pair of big single acting cylinders.

IUsedtoBendCars said:
Thanks. I did alright this week. I spent another 2 hours today to grab the last of the stuff and tram my machine home.

The tilt trailer probably isn't worth 5 grand. It's too big. Like 900x20 tires. Air brakes big. No title. Needs 8 tires and I'm sure every brake component is bad. Would be good on a farm to be pulled around with a tractor. Probably it's only good use. LOL.
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I was just thinking that if I scored that the same people would be telling me it's garbage. :laughing:
 
[486] said:
Huh.

I've got six or seven of those, single acting from car hoists, so only about 8' long. Dunno what to do with them, but at the very least they're big rod stock and nice DOM tubing.

Had thoughts recently about making my flatbed into a dumpy flatbed, but I dunno if that's the right use for them, prolly a lot better off finding a scissor hoist for it
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8' long compressed or extended? I have dreams of a certi-flat style welding table setup as a cover for the pit in my shop. Have it lower down to use as the floor of the pit, and extend up above the floor level a few feet to use as a welding table. would be slicker'n'shit! Probably never happen though. :laughing:
 
got $ 10 for a GMT800 cat and $8 for a brass radiator out of my 68 IH pickup. Better than $0, but hardly worth the drive

but dad took the drive, and he's retired, so maybe it was worth it?
 
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