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That isnt the point and you know it. Boomers have been the nuclear sky is falling since the 50s and it never happens. There is a reason nuclear weapons have only actually been used twice. Because both times no one had anything even remotely close in power to return fire with. Being willing to use nuclear weapons in the modern era means A. An admission russia is losing something I don't think his ego would allow anyhow. And B. You are so close to losing you and your followers have a death wish because there is zero garauntee it wont turn into return fire that wipes you off the map.


Putin is alot of things but some suicidal hitleresque figure ready with poison in his bunker die for a cause he isnt. He likes being in power and being alive to enjoy that power. Pretty sure he isnt the sort that fantasizes about nuclear waste warlording. It is the same posturing they always do because they have nothing else. And don't hit me with that boomer but but muh surprise strike either. Russian nuclear missile fuel is highly corrosive. They dont keep theirs fueled like most do because they can't. Anyone with satellites and an intelligence service will see them fueling and have a counterstrike spun up long before they ever leave the silos. What are capable of launching at all still that is. It requires a whole fanatical desire to die for your country he and most of his people lack.

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You really don't have a clue about modern history or geopolitics, do you?



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You are missing the point.

I believe that a citizen should be able to buy and possess any armament that the military has. Like an Apache, f22, whatever you want.

The point of the second amendment is to protect the republic. So when the government bans things that protect the republic, that’s an issue.

And yes a lot more people believe we should than don’t. You live in a commie bubble. Or people are afraid to express their opinions.

There's a reason the 2A is the second amendment.

When the .gov infringes/eliminates the rights guaranteed by the 1A, we have the 2A to return those rights to us.
 

Chinese Bulk Carrier Suspected In Undersea Cable Sabotage; Danish Navy Shadowing Vessel​

Ok, this one makes me real nervous. Has that Franz Ferdinand feel to it. Can someone who better understands strategy in North-eastern Europe tell me what China or even their Russian allies get out of severing this cable other than starting shit on purpose?
 
Ok, this one makes me real nervous. Has that Franz Ferdinand feel to it. Can someone who better understands strategy in North-eastern Europe tell me what China or even their Russian allies get out of severing this cable other than starting shit on purpose?


 

didn't realize there was also a gas pipeline involved. That makes more sense.
 
Supposedly...I have not confirmed but I'm not buying it...if Putin starts firing off his missiles a state of emergency can be declared and Trump can't be installed as prez.

I call bullshit.
 
The American public does not want you owning a machine gun. We are a republic, this ins't Burger King, and you dont get it your way all the time. The vast overwhelming majority do not want you to own a machine gun. Tough fucking shit. :shaking: If you want one so bad, enlist.
The "vast overwhelming majority" think a AR is full-auto. They are misled, misinformed, or just ignorant. It doesn't matter what they want, it doesn't matter what you want. The right to own military grade weapons is protected by the 2nd Amendment. The entire point to the 2nd is to be able to defend yourself against the government.

It's the same principle as the 1st Ammendment. You can say whatever you want, but there can be consequences if you misuse this right.
 
lots of tweetering this morning....


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And you thought Kamala would beat Trump so thanks for the brilliant analysis. Or not.:flipoff2:
No i said i was worried she might be able to like a good portion of the board did. Not even remotely the same thing. Trump did however beat your dude out for the nomination like i said he would so if i am dumb that makes you flat retarded:flipoff2:
 
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You really don't have a clue about modern history or geopolitics, do you?



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Whatever you tell yourself in your little russian echo chamber buddy boy. So far pretty much the only successful thing you have done in this thread is pat yourself on the back about how smart you think you are:laughing:. Fortunately you do seem to have splib agreeing with you and he is definitely a genius. So that is a ringing endorsement.:laughing:
 
No i said i was worried she might be able to like a good portion of the board did. Not even remotely the same thing. Trump did however beat your dude out for the nomination like i said he would so if i am dumb that makes you flat retarded:flipoff2:

Apparently you are unaware that you come across as a retarded humanistic yappy ratdog. :flipoff2:
Down girl!:laughing:
 
Whatever you tell yourself in your little russian echo chamber buddy boy. So far pretty much the only successful thing you have done in this thread is pat yourself on the back about how smart you think you are:laughing:. Fortunately you do seem to have splib agreeing with you and he is definitely a genius. So that is a ringing endorsement.:laughing:

Your patting yourself on the back competition is excelling mine.

Congrats.

If you're ignorant, ok. That can be rectified. If you aren't, then you're a fucktard on this topic. Or can't see clearly, but if you can: you have a character/mental deficiency.
 
Now get the tard’s opinion on suppressors. Are they dangerous and civilians shouldn’t have them?
Only used by poachers shooting game animals at night and serve no sporting purpose.

Could also be used by a mass shooter to disguise their position and kill even more
 


Biden agrees to give Ukraine anti-personnel mines​


US President Joe Biden has agreed to give Ukraine anti-personnel land mines, a US defence official told the BBC, a move seen as an attempt to slow Russian troops who have been steadily advancing in Ukraine's east in recent months.
The official, who was speaking on condition of anonymity, said such mines would be delivered soon and Washington expected that they would be used on Ukraine's territory.
Ukraine was also committed to not using the mines in densely-populated areas, the official said.
Separately, the US State Department said it would close its embassy in Kyiv after it "received specific information of a potential significant air attack on 20 November".

"Out of an abundance of caution, the embassy will be closed, and embassy employees are being instructed to shelter in place," it said in a statement.
"The US embassy recommends US citizens be prepared to immediately shelter in the event an air alert is announced."
The embassy has previously issued similar warnings of potential air attacks at New Year and around Ukraine's Independence Day in August.
The Italian and Greek embassies said they were also closing temporarily following the US warning.
Overnight, both Ukraine and Russia reported major drone attacks on their respective territories.
It was not immediately known whether there were any casualties.

he provision of anti-personnel land mines is the latest move by the outgoing US administration to bolster Ukraine's war effort before Donald Trump returns to the White House on 20 January.

For Ukraine's forces trying to halt Russian advances up and down the long front line in the east, mines are vital.

Russia's tactics currently involve sending small groups of soldiers - sometimes no more than three to five men - to walk or ride motorbikes behind Ukrainian positions. These men are often killed or captured.

However, in besieged towns like Chasiv Yar and Kurakhove, Ukrainian analysts say squads will sometimes be sent out every 20 minutes for hours at a time, creating problems for Ukrainian troops.

"It's very difficult to deal with," Serhiy Kuzan from the Ukrainian Security and Cooperation Centre told the BBC.

"We need more anti-personnel mines."

Much of the fighting is taking place in rural parts of the Donbas, wooded areas between huge open areas of farmland.

With much of the civilian population already evacuated, Ukraine argues that the tactical use of "non-persistent" mines poses minimal risk to civilians and is absolutely essential to stem Russia's advance.
 
Russia has deployed landmines liberally since the start of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 but international objections to the use of such weapons on the grounds that they pose a risk to civilians had prevented the Biden administration from signing off on them.
The US defence official confirmed to the BBC that Ukraine had pledged to use only mines that remained active for a limited period of time.
The US "non-persistent" mines differ from Russia's as they become inert after a pre-set period of time - anywhere from four hours to two weeks. They are electrically fused and require battery power to detonate. Once the battery runs out, they will not detonate.
Washington has already been providing anti-tank mines to Ukraine, but the anti-personnel land mines - which can be rapidly deployed - are designed to blunt the advances of ground forces.
Russia and the US are not signatories to the Ottawa Convention banning the use or transfer of anti-personnel landmines, although Ukraine is. However, since Russia's full-scale invasion, more than 20% of Ukrainian territory is estimated to have become contaminated by mines.
Earlier, it was confirmed that US-made longer-range Army Tactical Missile System (Atacms) missiles had struck targets inside Russia only days after reports emerged that the White House had granted permission for their use.
Russia's defence ministry said the strike had targeted the Bryansk region bordering Ukraine to the north on Tuesday morning.
It said five missiles had been shot down and one had caused damage - with its fragments starting a fire at a military facility.
But two US officials said initial indications suggested Russia had intercepted just two missiles out of around eight fired by Ukraine.
The BBC has not been able to verify independently the contradicting figures.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused Washington of trying to escalate the conflict.
The Kremlin has vowed to retaliate.
On Tuesday, Russian President Vladimir Putin approved changes to Russia’s nuclear doctrine, setting out new conditions under which the country would consider using its arsenal.
It now says an attack from a non-nuclear state, if backed by a nuclear power, will be treated as a joint assault on Russia.
Commenting on the changes, US state department spokesperson Matthew Miller said: "Since the beginning of its war of aggression against Ukraine, [Russia] has sought to coerce and intimidate both Ukraine and other countries around the world through irresponsible nuclear rhetoric and behaviour."
 
The worst part of this whole Russia/Ukraine thing is that it all began when idiots started talking about Ukraine joining NATO. Everyone seems to forget that the USSR and Ukraine signed a contract that said Ukraine would NEVER become part of NATO as part of their becoming a separate country from the USSR. That was one of the main points of the contract. Other points were Ukraine giving back all the ICMB's, which they did. This was back in the 90"s and the USA played a part of that agreement.

Now, even today there are idiots running their mouths about Ukraine joining NATO. Saying the exact thing that Russia has said for decades was a bright red line.

Why in the fuck would Russia want a NATO country sharing a border with them? What's the next thing that would happen? Yep, missile systems right on the border. There isn't a single country on earth that would want that, well, unless you're already in NATO.

Bottom line as I see it. Russia is protecting their territory, Ukraine is trying as hard as they can to pull the whole world into a war, and now this administration is green lighting actions that will make Trumps ability to make a peace deal 1000% harder.

It's crazy to watch these games play out. What's even crazier is how many people are going to die because games are being played.


I know a lot of folks here will call me all kinds of names but, Russia isn't the bad guy here.
 
The worst part of this whole Russia/Ukraine thing is that it all began when idiots started talking about Ukraine joining NATO. Everyone seems to forget that the USSR and Ukraine signed a contract that said Ukraine would NEVER become part of NATO as part of their becoming a separate country from the USSR. That was one of the main points of the contract. Other points were Ukraine giving back all the ICMB's, which they did. This was back in the 90"s and the USA played a part of that agreement.

Now, even today there are idiots running their mouths about Ukraine joining NATO. Saying the exact thing that Russia has said for decades was a bright red line.

Why in the fuck would Russia want a NATO country sharing a border with them? What's the next thing that would happen? Yep, missile systems right on the border. There isn't a single country on earth that would want that, well, unless you're already in NATO.

Bottom line as I see it. Russia is protecting their territory, Ukraine is trying as hard as they can to pull the whole world into a war, and now this administration is green lighting actions that will make Trumps ability to make a peace deal 1000% harder.

It's crazy to watch these games play out. What's even crazier is how many people are going to die because games are being played.


I know a lot of folks here will call me all kinds of names but, Russia isn't the bad guy here.
It's been discussed in this thread but ignored by the "Ukraine is a Sovereign Nation" crowd. Kamala said Ukraine could join NATO a few times too.
 
The worst part of this whole Russia/Ukraine thing is that it all began when idiots started talking about Ukraine joining NATO. Everyone seems to forget that the USSR and Ukraine signed a contract that said Ukraine would NEVER become part of NATO as part of their becoming a separate country from the USSR. That was one of the main points of the contract. Other points were Ukraine giving back all the ICMB's, which they did. This was back in the 90"s and the USA played a part of that agreement.

Now, even today there are idiots running their mouths about Ukraine joining NATO. Saying the exact thing that Russia has said for decades was a bright red line.

Why in the fuck would Russia want a NATO country sharing a border with them? What's the next thing that would happen? Yep, missile systems right on the border. There isn't a single country on earth that would want that, well, unless you're already in NATO.

Bottom line as I see it. Russia is protecting their territory, Ukraine is trying as hard as they can to pull the whole world into a war, and now this administration is green lighting actions that will make Trumps ability to make a peace deal 1000% harder.

It's crazy to watch these games play out. What's even crazier is how many people are going to die because games are being played.


I know a lot of folks here will call me all kinds of names but, Russia isn't the bad guy here.
Yup.
 
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