Its relative Their economy wasn different and simpler than ours or the EU. Minerals and raw materials. And a sGary stated, not much else. Can anhyone name a Russion product ? Not much of that has changed ince the Uker-Nuker parade.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Russia / Ukraine thread
- Thread starter CDA 455 II
- Start date
Its relative Their economy wasn different and simpler than ours or the EU. Minerals and raw materials. And a sGary stated, not much else. Can anhyone name a Russion product ? Not much of that has changed ince the Uker-Nuker parade.
Scott Cee aka 2drx4
Taste the butwhole
Baikal.
I have an Artemida.
Edit, my previous employer has a bunch of very expensive paperweights, that were formerly known as helicopters, which are of Russian origin.
Which makes it even worse. Their export economy is stuff that comes from the ground. In my lifetime I do not recall ever buying a manufactured Russian product.
If the sanctions from the West last, this is very bad news for Russia, a very high price to pay to increase their land area by 0.01%.
Provience
Kill!
They are a far cry from china's bitch and have decades of sanctions under their belt. They've effectively proven that europe is their bitch though.
For fucks sake, WE, the USA, were begging Iran and argentina for oil.
Provience
Kill!
It isn't about land. The ruble is crushing the euro even, euro inflation is worse than the dollar by a bunch right now
Other countries have what Russia sells. Just need time to rearrange the world's trade/logistics.
Only because WE are worshiping at the altar of Climate Change, never mind that we have the largest oil reserves in the world. Europe too has A LOT of coal and a great deal of oil. They just chose not to use it for the last twenty years. That's changing fast.
SanDiegoCJ
Non-Lemming
The ruble value is artificial.
The currency is also being artificially inflated by capital controls and, with the country's gross domestic product predicted to shrink 10%-15% this year, Russians are quickly getting poorer as soaring inflation devours their earnings.
Russia's rouble rebound is not as real as it seems
The rouble has staged a lightening-fast recovery to levels last reached in the days before Russia invaded Ukraine, defying predictions that the war would launch it into freefall.
ToaDisco
Member
- Joined
- Aug 31, 2020
- Member Number
- 2799
- Messages
- 8
Considering we “lost” both of the Iraq and Afghan wars (not militarily but through poor strategy and public perception) I laugh at everyone saying we’d just roll through China and Russia and come out clean. We lost thousands of lives, spent trillions and don’t have much positive things to show for it.
NATO is a scam propped up by the US. Let them handle it. Think we’d be better off with minding our own business and taking a ‘fuck around and find out approach’
There’s a ton of atrocities going on in the world and we can’t fix all of them.
NATO is a scam propped up by the US. Let them handle it. Think we’d be better off with minding our own business and taking a ‘fuck around and find out approach’
There’s a ton of atrocities going on in the world and we can’t fix all of them.
Provience
Kill!
More artificial than the dollar, euro or ???? It surely didn't collapse like "it was supposed to" but the dollar sure didThe ruble value is artificial.
The currency is also being artificially inflated by capital controls and, with the country's gross domestic product predicted to shrink 10%-15% this year, Russians are quickly getting poorer as soaring inflation devours their earnings.
Russia's rouble rebound is not as real as it seems
The rouble has staged a lightening-fast recovery to levels last reached in the days before Russia invaded Ukraine, defying predictions that the war would launch it into freefall.www.reuters.com
ToaDisco
Member
- Joined
- Aug 31, 2020
- Member Number
- 2799
- Messages
- 8
And that’s somehow different than what we’re seeing here?The ruble value is artificial.
The currency is also being artificially inflated by capital controls and, with the country's gross domestic product predicted to shrink 10%-15% this year, Russians are quickly getting poorer as soaring inflation devours their earnings.
Russia's rouble rebound is not as real as it seems
The rouble has staged a lightening-fast recovery to levels last reached in the days before Russia invaded Ukraine, defying predictions that the war would launch it into freefall.
Provience
Kill!
Yup. Their shit policies are about par as our shit policies.
Sooo....whenever the US collapses, so too will russia
SanDiegoCJ
Non-Lemming
Then stop crowing about it as if it's a big deal. You don't get to have it both ways.
Provience
Kill!
I'm saying the ruble didn't drop relative to world currency worse, and is often better, than the alternatives.
Sure it is just as propped up as all the others, but that goes along with why I'm saying that Russia isn't in dire straights or learning a lesson or in some other desperate or terrible position right now.
I'm just not seeing it anywhere.
SanDiegoCJ
Non-Lemming
And what I'm saying is it's artificial and using it to claim that Russia is doing okay is patently a falsehood.
Provience
Kill!
Well, okay compared to the rest of everybody is a far cry from china's bitch and suffering greatly
Scott Cee aka 2drx4
Taste the butwhole
The Kamov Ka-32 is a fucking marvel of engineering. If they weren't effectively neutered from being used by the FAA and other regulators, and they could provide some better level of product support, they easily could have carved out a large segment of the rotary aircraft market in the Americas.
Kalashnikov rifles and Wolf ammunition
simple crude shit
I am not certain their "economy" is ruined by this action or not ???
Product support was a nightmare. My previous employer literally stocked more parts for them than the manufacturer did, any employed people "off the books" that worked for Kamov to provide them with inside info on what parts were being produce and to expedite the purchasing of them. Operators all around the world would phone them to try to buy parts because Kamov would be 6 months to a year lead time on everything.
But yeah, they are NOT relying on exporting this stuff. They could have built a huge export market for some of the more useful Soviet industrial products, but corruption, red tape, and lack of interest on their part prevented it.
Provience
Kill!
This post
SanDiegoCJ
Non-Lemming
Doesn't alter what I posted at all.
ToaDisco
Member
- Joined
- Aug 31, 2020
- Member Number
- 2799
- Messages
- 8
Do you believe the inflation and unemployment numbers that our.gov puts out?
Provience
Kill!
Which also doesn't indicate that Russia is significantly worse for the wear due to sanctions and other war related do dads
SanDiegoCJ
Non-Lemming
![[486]](https://data.irate4x4.com/avatars/m/0/94.jpg?1700178133){kind=avatar}
[486]
ugh, that guy again?
weren't the soviet hop-ta-cop-ters like far and away the best?Edit, my previous employer has a bunch of very expensive paperweights, that were formerly known as helicopters, which are of Russian origin.
maybe that's leftover iron-curtain mystique though...
[486]
ugh, that guy again?
and I should read threads through before asking questions hahaha
Scott Cee aka 2drx4
Taste the butwhole
Who knows. The only one I've ever spent time around is the Ka-32. It had "unique" problems too.
Norm
Newb
Vlad now controls 70% of the natural gas in Europe, think about that. That's the end goal of the whole war, $$$$$$$$
shortbus4x4
Junk collector
I know the Hinds in Afghanistan got a good reputation for being able to take small arms fire and still fly and dish out retribution. They weren't so good at taking missile fire though.
CDA 455 II
ANFAQUE2
Is that any different than before the Nazi cleanup on Aisle Kiev ?
Redrider
New member
New UK Primer Rishi Sunak. UK should love this guy lol!