CarterKraft
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CarterKraft
Red Skull Member
I think that's the "plain English" style, that would be much simpler I agree.
I need to re connect and see if I messed up when I enabled/disabled the auto DPF Regen stuff, I'll look at that then so I'm familiar.
Did you buy a used oilfield truck and now your not pleased with its reliability?
Let me state this clearly for those who find this thread later. The 6.2 and the truck it comes in is extremely reliable. There might be a case here and there that go against the grain. As a whole, the 2011 to 2023 6.2 trucks are far more reliable than their competitors.
My disappointment is not in reliability. They are gutless dogs like the 5.4 was before it it. We have tons of trucks with 10,000+ hours on them with little or no issues. If I needed a 3/4 ton gas burner truck and had to choose between a 6.0 Chevy, a 5.7or6.4 Hemi Ram and a 6.2 Ford, the decision is not even close. Ill take the superduty hands down. I’ve never had a single engine issue with one and I’ve been through multiple new ones.
Hasn't been un-reliable, I phrased that incorrectly. Just annoyances at this point. I can't confirm it was an oilfield truck but signs point to it. I was aware of it and for the price I paid I knowingly assumed the risk.
I'll quit bitching about it.
Hows that 6.8 on week 2?
YotaAtieToo
Thick skull
What are the odds of you towing heavy with it? I'm guessing slim if you've been using a 6.2 for a while. I'm still thinking about consolidating the F150 and dually to one truck. I'd really like a 7.3 gas, but worried I'll regret it when I hook up to my gooseneck.
Fwiw, I didn't think the 6.2 was gutless at 100-2500' elevation. Was it really that much less than the 5.0?
Fwiw, I didn't think the 6.2 was gutless at 100-2500' elevation. Was it really that much less than the 5.0?
Wheelerfreak
Stunningly Average
Do they make a ForScan that works with Mac?
I live at a mile high and drive / pull a lot up to
7500' and my 6.2l sucked ass when pulling 7k. I went back to diesel and have a '23 a 6.7k PSD and real pleased with it.
Today my son ordered a 7.3l and for what he pulls it should be fine and be able to pull a GN stock trailer or flat bed with 8-10 ton of hay when needed.
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YotaAtieToo
Thick skull
Should be fine, but have you done it?
I have several good friends that have the 7.3l and pull 10-14k regularly at same elevation and they do ok. My boys new pickup will be back up.
YotaAtieToo
Thick skull
I mention it often, but here is definitely a good place to mention it again. I’m a spoiled a-hole with way to much stuff to play with. I have race cars with literal zero torque management. Ive had turbo diesel’s for a very long time. So these things don’t get a fair unbiased assessment from me. I’m very critical of the nanny stuff and 3/4 tons get MDT levels of torque management, more so than a 150 does. The heaviest I’ll get to tow with it will be a Hotsy pressure washer which weigh about 8K pounds. I have a good friend with a 22 7.3 with 40K+ miles and tows over 10K with it. He likes it but says he can’t hang with the turbo diesel’s. He spends a lot of time at 7K ~ 8k elevation pulling flow back iron trailers.
Waited till I rolled that first thousand miles on it to reply.
First impressions.
The good: it’s comfortable, it’s quiet. The engine is legitimately powerful. It is more responsive and acts more like I would like it to than the last decades worth of gasser 3/4 tons of all big 3 that I’m used to. You mash the gas on this thing and something happens. They raised the speed limit at which the rear locker kicks out, if not took it away entirely. Locker in 2 hi stays locked over 30 mph where it used to be 25 mph to disengage and had to drop below 20 mph to get to re engage.
The questionable: everything is different than the previous generation. It’s almost exactly like my Badlands bronco as far as functionality and interior goes. This is the poverty model XL with FX4 package. The 4x4 switch is where you change vehicle modes (instead of the button on the shifter) and I’m still figuring out what works best for what I’m doing. I like the shift logic of “off-road” mode best but that’s 4 hi and locker engaged. I don’t need the locker all the time. Something felt off so I checked. This thing has 3.31 axle gears so that makes the 4.7 first gear not feel like a 4.7 first gear so that’s a little annoying. I want a truck that’s not mechanically capable of exceeding 10 mph in first gear.
YotaAtieToo
Thick skull
I get it. Besides race cars, I have access to a wide variety of vehicles. I'm not the guy who expects to pull 20k up any pass without downshifting like a lot of new diesel owners. But I don't want to have to wring the things neck when I'm towing.
The trailer alone is like 8500 lbs, plus ~18k cargo capacity. Not that I'm doing that all the time, but I'm not sure the 7.3 would be happy with it. Although I did watch a video of a guy with a 7.3, pulling a similar gooseneck with a newer backhoe on it. 24k lb trailer iirc. He was even in Colorado. He said it was better than he thought.
Biggest issue is if we sell the 2 newer trucks, it's replacement will be the wife's DD. Which is lots of short, around town stuff.
Waited till I rolled that first thousand miles on it to reply.
First impressions.
The good: it’s comfortable, it’s quiet. The engine is legitimately powerful. It is more responsive and acts more like I would like it to than the last decades worth of gasser 3/4 tons of all big 3 that I’m used to. You mash the gas on this thing and something happens. They raised the speed limit at which the rear locker kicks out, if not took it away entirely. Locker in 2 hi stays locked over 30 mph where it used to be 25 mph to disengage and had to drop below 20 mph to get to re engage.
The questionable: everything is different than the previous generation. It’s almost exactly like my Badlands bronco as far as functionality and interior goes. This is the poverty model XL with FX4 package. The 4x4 switch is where you change vehicle modes (instead of the button on the shifter) and I’m still figuring out what works best for what I’m doing. I like the shift logic of “off-road” mode best but that’s 4 hi and locker engaged. I don’t need the locker all the time. Something felt off so I checked. This thing has 3.31 axle gears so that makes the 4.7 first gear not feel like a 4.7 first gear so that’s a little annoying. I want a truck that’s not mechanically capable of exceeding 10 mph in first gear.
I cannot imagine expecting a gas engine truck to pull that kind of weight on a road trip. That weight requirement is mandatory diesel territory as far as I’m concerned. That’s partially because I only know my narrow window of use which is 2000 miles at a time and over 10,000 ft mountain pass to get there and and back. Next month we’re going 1500 miles one way to the next race.
I’ll always remember this though. Dads first real race trailer was a 2005 44 ft pace Bigfoot that weighed 17K pounds empty. He bought it used from a guy that towed it with a single cab long bed V10 superduty. He road raced at a pavement track and round tripped 14 miles total track back to home. The 3126 Cat in the MDT dad had back then would get down to 44 mph on some climbs the 6.7 psd in the dually would breeze at 75mph.
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Duallys are too expensive, check that thing out.
YotaAtieToo
Thick skull
Road trips would be more like 26k lbs gross, just 3 wheelers, or camper and 2 wheelers. Heavier would be more like occasional bdl shit local. Which I could just use a 23 3500 duramax from work instead.
It's just a amount of use thing.
Do I deal with the gas for 1 or 2 big trips a year?
Or deal with the diesel all year long doing around town bs?
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Duallys are too expensive, check that thing out.
Don't want a dually if I get rid of this one.
First 5000 miles behind me on this little dude. It does definitely get worse fuel mileage than the 6.2 it replaced averaging right at 7 mpg. These new pushrod engines have balls though. This thing actually feels like what I think LS guys “think” their trucks feel like. Power to get out of its own way is not an issue. It’s got balls all the way from idle to redline. Sounds totally different than the overhead cam motors. Obviously it’s still no turbo diesel but I’d say it blows away its predecessor and it’s competition.
Things to note.
The good. It rides nice. The brakes are great. It’s comfortable. Power for days.
The bad. The dingers. I haven’t done anything about it yet but it has a dinger for every stupid little thing. When I turn the engine off and open the door it dings for 10 seconds giving me an alarm to check the back seat for occupants. I didn’t put a lift on it when I had it built out because I blew my whole budget on the bed insert and having all the mobile office equipment in it. It is to low and I bang the bump stops way to easy. It’s got a permanent hairlip in the air dam, has a tear in it but haven’t ripped it off yet.
Levigarrett76
Zeus of the Sluice
How do you like the shifter? I get in my wife's 2022 f150 and go to put in reverse and accidently pull into drive, then park then back and forth because it doesn't even have a real feel to it being used to my 01' & 20' f250
The dinging and "ok" message is really fucking annoying.
Cant see the screen for "ok"
It wouldn't be so bad if they had not taken such a giant step back in the instrument cluster, its noticeably slower and much more irritating
The dinging and "ok" message is really fucking annoying.
Cant see the screen for "ok"
It wouldn't be so bad if they had not taken such a giant step back in the instrument cluster, its noticeably slower and much more irritating
I don’t like how they are gated because it’s hard to find the slot you’re looking for. I manually shift a lot, like probably 80% of my drive time. I spend so much time descending steep hills I can kill brake pads in a couple of months if I rely on the brakes to hold the truck back vs the engine doing it. One of my counterparts got his truck the same time I did. He ran his brakes metal to metal in under 5K miles. I just had my first oil change last Friday so had them rotate the tires and check the brake pads. Still have most of my pads. So manually controlling the truck definitely works. I do actually like that there’s either drive OR manual mode. In my old truck it was hard to hit the manual mode gate with the shifter while bouncing down a hill already in motion.
Now I just switch back and forth with a button and tap + - to shift.
Yes, I will completely remove it before winter if it hasn’t gotten forcibly removed unintentionally by then.
Supposedly. I’ve never done it before. Never foreskinned or dongled but I guess I’m going to have to try.
CarterKraft
Red Skull Member
I can’t tell. I’ve never tuned one to delete some of that. But I’d think if the 19 6.2 had it bad. A 24 would have it worse. You can tell this has torque. Far lower in the rpm range. A 6.2 doesn’t have anything until it’s spinning at least 3500 rpm. This 6.8 it’s at 2000 rpm where its acceleration rate starts to ramp up exponentially.
Levigarrett76
Zeus of the Sluice
Gutless 03 2v 5.4(260 hp, cable throttle) f150 cc 4x4 would light both rears up on pavement without power braking. drive by wire 5.4 3v (300 hp) would not...
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AKnate
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All the new shit ding a lings constantly.
Worse than the old 70s/80s buzzer than was for seatbelts or whatever it was. Like a low air pressure buzzer.
Like shit, just STFU and stop dingalinging. Yes I left the keys in it. Yes I know.
No I don't have a selt, I'm doing 10mph a few hundred feet cross the yard, so STFU.
Yes the door is open while I'm backing 2 feet, stop blaring the horn!
Worse than the old 70s/80s buzzer than was for seatbelts or whatever it was. Like a low air pressure buzzer.
Like shit, just STFU and stop dingalinging. Yes I left the keys in it. Yes I know.
No I don't have a selt, I'm doing 10mph a few hundred feet cross the yard, so STFU.
Yes the door is open while I'm backing 2 feet, stop blaring the horn!
This, I had a 5 star performance tune on my 05 DBW and the reduced torque management definitely helped. Then the motor blew from a stuck injector and they blamed the tune, and bricked my programmer.
Bebop
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Parallel Desktop.
Same.
Truck: ding - uh, you just put it gear with the door open - ding
Me: STFU truck! You know how I know the door is open? I opened the mother fucker with my hand. We’re only going 30 feet.
We have this actual verbal exchange several times a day.
Levigarrett76
Zeus of the Sluice
How about that annoying "ok to reset" bar across the bottom of the trip screens so you ant read the trip meter that comes on every time you crank the fuckin truck.
These 21-up f150 23-up f250 will put you in the looney bin.
Then go figure also now you cannot view tpms unless stopped in the lower trim models.....
arse_sidewards
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I fucking love my old shit. None of this. Every time I get in a fucking modern vehicle it reminds me why I don't buy them. I didn't feel that way 5-7yr ago.