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SLOWPOKE693 said:
There has been a bunch of new shock technology released to the SxS world lately.....

We now have NOST pump adjusters:

And these shocks made by the same company:
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It has made me wonder why it's a huge deal to find the tech my old 90s dirt bikes came with stock.

I spent $3500 to get high and low speed compression adjustment on my sled, and still didn't get rebound. Yet my 96 husky with generic showa shock and fork has high and low speed compression and rebound adjustments. :confused:


The shocks that come stock on most sxs are horrendous. I got to drive a razor with the electronic coil-overs and couldn't believe it. Then I found out the price. :laughing:
 
Chevy_man said:
It has made me wonder why it's a huge deal to find the tech my old 90s dirt bikes came with stock.

I spent $3500 to get high and low speed compression adjustment on my sled, and still didn't get rebound. Yet my 96 husky with generic showa shock and fork has high and low speed compression and rebound adjustments. :confused:


The shocks that come stock on most sxs are horrendous. I got to drive a razor with the electronic coil-overs and couldn't believe it. Then I found out the price. :laughing:
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My Fox shocks don't have rebound adjusters either. My shock guy said he could add them for about $400 a shock but in the same breath told me they are useless for what I use my car for so I skipped it.
 
Chevy_man said:
It has made me wonder why it's a huge deal to find the tech my old 90s dirt bikes came with stock.

I spent $3500 to get high and low speed compression adjustment on my sled, and still didn't get rebound. Yet my 96 husky with generic showa shock and fork has high and low speed compression and rebound adjustments. :confused:


The shocks that come stock on most sxs are horrendous. I got to drive a razor with the electronic coil-overs and couldn't believe it. Then I found out the price. :laughing:
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Adjustability=variability

I worked for a company that built high end shocks for a time. They made shocks for the Paris Dakar rally primarily. It was very difficult to have two 4 way (high annd low speed reb and compression) adjustable shocks match for every click. They were art and to match to they were very expensive and precisely made. One of our shock tech’s used to say that they were jewelry.

Fewer adjustments are easier to match. And on a motorcycle, which is essentially single shock front and rear it’s very simple. Two shocks from two bikes might not match, but that doesn’t matter when you’re just adjusting one bike.

The tolerances and precision in manufacture are much higher when you are trying to match two corners.

That being said, the average bozo on the street would never notice if one of their shocks had 30% more valving than the other. 🤷‍♂️
 
Most bike rebound adjustments are actually free bleed adjustments. It's not till you get into things like Ohlins TTX that you have an actual separate reb adjustment.
 
bdkw1 said:
Most bike rebound adjustments are actually free bleed adjustments. It's not till you get into things like Ohlins TTX that you have an actual separate reb adjustment.
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That's what my shock guy told me about rebound adjusters for my shocks. He said it doesn't change rebound valving, the rebound adjuster just fine tunes how much oil can go around the piston instead of through the rebound valving.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
That's what my shock guy told me about rebound adjusters for my shocks. He said it doesn't change rebound valving, the rebound adjuster just fine tunes how much oil can go around the piston instead of through the rebound valving.
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That will still change your flow passing the discs. Depending on size of the orifice and the shape of the needle, you can get decent performance.

Though I prefer they have a check valve so they are not a bidirectional bleed adjustment.
 
Beat95yj said:
That will still change your flow passing the discs. Depending on size of the orifice and the shape of the needle, you can get decent performance.

Though I prefer they have a check valve so they are not a bidirectional bleed adjustment.
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I believe the shafts (FOX brand) my shock guy mentioned had check valves in them.
 
Beat95yj said:
Who will be the first to try them? I have known the guys at Accutune for 20+ years. They have worked for several shock companies in both design and sales of the good stuff. Inertia (acceleration) sensitive, frequency sensitive, velocity and position sensitive shocks. Doubt they make them for a chopped up LJ, but keep an eye on them.

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Maybe he'll make a prototype for my Ferd. I've got Gen 1 Raptor shocks for the rear, so I need something with adjustability like the Fox DSC. Saw the video this AM, I wish them luck.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
I believe the shafts (FOX brand) my shock guy mentioned had check valves in them.
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There was a company making nuts with check valves for MX shocks. They caused more problems then they solved. When the freebleed gets unbalanced it creates a ratcheting effect. This is also seen when using a flutter stack on 1 side and not the other.
 
Chevy_man said:
They're about the same price as king. :confused:

But Bilstein is a throw away, so spending 25% more now, will be cheaper if I service them every 50k miles instead of throwing them all in the scrap bin...

They both have options for $2-4k also. Not trying to turn my tow pig into a trophy truck though. :flipoff2:
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Bilstien is a throw away? Every set I’ve had works very well. Even the OEM on my Range Rover supercharged. Flawless no drama.
 
Kyle said:
Bilstien is a throw away? Every set I’ve had works very well. Even the OEM on my Range Rover supercharged. Flawless no drama.
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Yeah, once they start leaking :laughing::flipoff2:

They don't do well in the cold here, and once the seals are blown out they are kinda useless as shocks...
 
Weasel said:
Never had one leak myself. The crawler has one with a bent shaft and it's still holding fine.
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You have to drive the rig and get the suspension moving before they leak :flipoff2:

I swear every time I blow the seals out of one it's in the middle of a cold snap, and I'm going down a rutted up 2 track somewhere to unload the snowmobile.
 
Sluggy said:
Not to derail this but does anyone have an opinion on the brand carbon shocks?
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Beat95yj said:
They made a lot of questionable choices in the beginning. I asked about some of them, never got great answers.
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So for both of you guys, I bought a set. I initially bought them because my cousin who's a known Nissan fab shop owner had recommended them, and they were also veteran owned. I talked back and forth with Daniel for a bit and pulled the trigger on the set for my cj. Machine quality seemed good, but after 3 weeks on the shelf (I also bought resis with adjusters) all of them began to leak from the adjusters.

I made contact, they said I could have standard reservoirs shipped out for free, or wait for adjustable reservoirs with their newer adjuster style to come out because they were getting similar complaints and discontinued V1.0. So I waited and called back several months later. They now said there would be an upcharge for V2.0 resis. Of several hundred dollars. On shocks that were leaking from new, on the shelf. I am not impressed. I said fuck it. Send the standards. We'll see how they run when I'm mobile. Doubt I'll be buying a second set. Their air bump cans are a pretty robust design though.
 
Chevy_man said:
You have to drive the rig and get the suspension moving before they leak :flipoff2:

I swear every time I blow the seals out of one it's in the middle of a cold snap, and I'm going down a rutted up 2 track somewhere to unload the snowmobile.
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1Sinner said:
So for both of you guys, I bought a set. I initially bought them because my cousin who's a known Nissan fab shop owner had recommended them, and they were also veteran owned. I talked back and forth with Daniel for a bit and pulled the trigger on the set for my cj. Machine quality seemed good, but after 3 weeks on the shelf (I also bought resis with adjusters) all of them began to leak from the adjusters.

I made contact, they said I could have standard reservoirs shipped out for free, or wait for adjustable reservoirs with their newer adjuster style to come out because they were getting similar complaints and discontinued V1.0. So I waited and called back several months later. They now said there would be an upcharge for V2.0 resis. Of several hundred dollars. On shocks that were leaking from new, on the shelf. I am not impressed. I said fuck it. Send the standards. We'll see how they run when I'm mobile. Doubt I'll be buying a second set. Their air bump cans are a pretty robust design though.
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Make sure to take them apart and clean the machine work.
 
I really want to see more people out there with the SDI e click systems, I love a live valve!
 
Bebop said:
Make sure to take them apart and clean the machine work.
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That should not even be a thing with the shock manufacturer. The first thing I was taught when I was taught to take shock apart was everything should be absolutely spotlessly clean. I would ask a question and the response was is everything absolutely spotlessly clean?

The first time I ever opened up a shock in the desert in Baja I almost had a meltdown because the dust was blowing. It was for my friend Scott’s Jeep speed and it really needed some revaluing.

Same with the time I did a revalve on a picnic table in Moab
 
welndmn said:
I really want to see more people out there with the SDI e click systems, I love a live valve!
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I have two friends with them and really wanna go for a ride. But it’s a bitch to get me into either vehicle. I would bring my Hoyer lift. (Medical cherry picker) but it takes up the whole inside of my van and I like to bring my fiancé when I leave town. Oh and I caregiver so I don’t have to stay in my chair the whole time.
 
Raker did the fox coilovers on the back of my YJ and they're amazing. I have a homo-gay ifs tacoma at the moment, but I'm thinking the next move on it will be a spring under setup with some longer shocks out back and some flavor of a 2.25" LT kit up front. I think the ride stuff is only for the standard toyota bolt on mid travel setup, but either way I'm still calling them when it's time to swap in new stuff.
 
Beat95yj said:
That should not even be a thing with the shock manufacturer. The first thing I was taught when I was taught to take shock apart was everything should be absolutely spotlessly clean. I would ask a question and the response was is everything absolutely spotlessly clean?

The first time I ever opened up a shock in the desert in Baja I almost had a meltdown because the dust was blowing. It was for my friend Scott’s Jeep speed and it really needed some revaluing.

Same with the time I did a revalve on a picnic table in Moab
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Real life is often different than ideal conditions.
And FOA / Carbon or other lower end shock manufacturers are known to have crappy machine work.
 
Bebop said:
Real life is often different than ideal conditions.
And FOA / Carbon or other lower end shock manufacturers are known to have crappy machine work.
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For the amount of crap I saw in the FOA shock I took apart, all they really needed was a solvent tank. Comes out of the machine gets washed, stored in a clean environment. It’s not really that complicated.
 
Beat95yj said:
For the amount of crap I saw in the FOA shock I took apart, all they really needed was a solvent tank. Comes out of the machine gets washed, stored in a clean environment. It’s not really that complicated.
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I need to find the pics of the piston I've got... I cut myself on the edges they were so sharp. A solvent tank wouldn't have done much...
 
Bebop said:
I need to find the pics of the piston I've got... I cut myself on the edges they were so sharp. A solvent tank wouldn't have done much...
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Again easily solveable with a burr knife or a tumbler. Or flat sanding.

Problem is most of these guys don’t give a crap or don’t know better.
 
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