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Railway strike coming 9/12
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School she owns or works at?
but that would require more people, and that's bad for the bottom line.
"precision scheduled railroading"
obviously there's a balance to be struck in staffing and costs, but for the last 20 years the railroads have been cutting all of it. Around here the tracks look like shit, the crossings look like shit and it's just generally obvious that the equipment is not getting maintained like it once was.
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naw... nationalize it. only option.
bigun
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'So... there's no plan?' Biden's not ready for massive rail workers strike that could devastate supply chain
Jean-Pierre made it clear that the Biden administration has no real plan when thousands of rail workers strike, devastating the supply chain.
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‘So… there’s no plan?’ Biden’s not ready for massive rail workers strike that could devastate supply chain
September 14, 2022 | Terresa Monroe-HamiltonWhite House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre made it painfully obvious during a press conference that the Biden administration has no real contingency plan as thousands of rail workers plan to strike, devastating the supply chain.
Biden loves the unions and is defending them for all he’s worth as the looming railroad workers’ strike gets ready to kick in along with 15,000 nurses walking out in Minnesota and West Coast ports potentially shutting down amid a contract dispute. It’s the perfect storm for the ultimate emergency which the left will not let go to waste.
Jean-Pierre confirmed on Tuesday that the administration basically doesn’t have any serious plan to stop all of this from crushing the supply chain. Instead, she spewed platitudes about how hard the president is working on it and that a strike is unacceptable.
She asserted that the Biden administration is asking truckers and air shippers to assist should rail service cease. Of course, Biden is also considering invoking emergency authorities to handle the crisis.
According to the press secretary, daily interagency meetings are being hosted by the administration to assess which supply chains and commodities are at the highest risk.
“We are working with other modes of transportation including shippers, truckers, and air freight to see how they can step in and keep goods moving in case of this rail shutdown,” she commented, indicating that the threat of a shutdown is very, very real at this point.
“The administration has also been working with relevant agencies to assess what supply chains and commodities are most likely to face severe disruptions,” Jean-Pierre added.
The White House has informed railroads and unions that “a shutdown is unacceptable and will hurt American workers, families, and businesses, and they must take action to avert it,” an anonymous White House official told Reuters.
“We have made crystal clear to the interested parties the harm that American families, businesses, farmers, and communities would experience if they were not to reach a resolution,” Jean-Pierre told reporters on Tuesday.
“We encourage folks to stick at the negotiation table to come up with a resolution. This is important because of what this could mean to the American people, what this could mean to American families,” she weakly stated.
On Monday, railroads stopped accepting shipments of hazardous materials such as chlorine and chemicals used in fertilizer, so they won’t be stranded in unsafe locations if rail traffic halts, according to the Daily Mail. The strike would impact moving coal, crude oil, ethanol, and other products necessary for life functioning normally in the United States.
The strike could come as early as Friday and freeze nearly 30 percent of U.S. cargo shipments, stoke inflation, impede supplies of food and fuel, cost the U.S. economy approximately $2 billion per day, and cause transportation headaches.
Amtrak began suspending service to Chicago, San Francisco, the Pacific Northwest, and Los Angeles on Tuesday, according to a statement released Monday evening.
Protests are also occurring at America’s ports and hospitals by tens of thousands of workers over low pay and staffing shortages.
Railroad unions are incensed that they are being blamed for a looming catastrophe.
“The railroads are using shippers, consumers, and the supply chain of our nation as pawns in an effort to get our unions to cave into their contract demands,” the unions said in a statement. “Our unions will not cave into these scare tactics, and Congress must not cave into what can only be described as corporate terrorism.”
Ten of the 12 largest railroad unions that represent some 115,000 workers have reached tentative deals with the railroads that will see them earn 24 percent raises over five years, $5,000 in bonuses, and one extra vacation day a year.
The two largest unions, The Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen and the SMART Transportation Division, however, have not come to an agreement with the railroads. They represent more than half of all railroad union workers.
As many as 60,000 railway workers will be joined by 15,000 nurses, and 22,000 West Coast port workers in massive strikes beginning this week as they seek better working conditions.
The widespread chaos of supply chain disruption could cause food shortages, skyrocketing gas prices, and potentially further explode inflation.
Biden could be forced to enact the Taft-Hartley Act, which is a Cold War-era law that allows the government to call for an 80-day cool-down period amid labor impasses.
bigun
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Who is John Gault?
bigun
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Talked to a yard worker that works in the Dallas area several years ago, he was telling me they have had several major spills cause by the computer run locos that had been covered up by the railroads and the governemnt
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So they all want a raise and refuse to work until they get it. Big surprise.
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What's interesting that they point out that none of this could possibly be a reaction to shortages and skyrocketing cost of living brought on by government intervention in the economy, couldn't possibly be that!!!
I do stand by the railroad workers on their on call schedule, I looked into a railroading job and talked to some people in it and said fuck that.
Slander
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They basically are like the airlines. So overly regulated that it's damn near impossible to start one and the government can force your ass back to work anyway.
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Kind of why I got out of my aviation job. I wasn’t far from being forced into a 24 hour call schedule for what came out to about 25 days/month. Pass.What's interesting that they point out that none of this could possibly be a reaction to shortages and skyrocketing cost of living brought on by government intervention in the economy, couldn't possibly be that!!!
I do stand by the railroad workers on their on call schedule, I looked into a railroading job and talked to some people in it and said fuck that.
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AI, PSR and automation will fix ereythang!
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more regulations will solve that....
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A buddy that is a Train Engineer makes pretty damn good money for only working about half a week. 6 figures to work 4 days. Though, last I talked to him, it sounded like they were upping to 12hr shifts.
Is it the Engineers, Conductors, or yard workers complaining? Or all of them?
What is the appropriate pay difference for rail work (job dependent) vs. the morons that want $15/hr to flip burgers and get yelled at by dumb fucks because their fries aren't hot enough and just need to STFU and accept their minimum wage? Any job involved on the tracks should pay a good amount, a lot goes into that, and any working a fast food cash register should not expect to be able to support a family of five, have their dream home, and a new car or two, nothing even remotely close to that. I'm not disputing either of those, just wondering how much should one industry drive up the cost of our everyday goods vs. another?
Is it the Engineers, Conductors, or yard workers complaining? Or all of them?
What is the appropriate pay difference for rail work (job dependent) vs. the morons that want $15/hr to flip burgers and get yelled at by dumb fucks because their fries aren't hot enough and just need to STFU and accept their minimum wage? Any job involved on the tracks should pay a good amount, a lot goes into that, and any working a fast food cash register should not expect to be able to support a family of five, have their dream home, and a new car or two, nothing even remotely close to that. I'm not disputing either of those, just wondering how much should one industry drive up the cost of our everyday goods vs. another?
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I don't think the main issue with the railroads at least was the money. I mean, everyone always wants more, but I think the railroad workers really want more time off, or at least time at home.
If you have a ton of seniority things can be fairly good. You are probably lucky to have a set established schedule of work. Keep in mind though that might mean your working nights or starting work at 3am, could be 3 days a week, could be 6 days a week. If you don't show you get bumped down the list, so you gotta show no matter what. Kids in the school play, wifes sick, or whatever, you gotta show up. Sometimes they just do away with that run and now you gotta find another one. Nothings ever really permanent.
If your new your on the extra board. Your basically on call 24/7. You don't show, you'll never make any seniority to get to some kind of scheduled work.
It was all set up like this 100yrs ago back when labor didn't really mean anything.
bigun
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So has the strike begun?
bigun
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We'll let you know now go back to sleep!So has the strike begun?
smurfblue40
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If it happens, it will happen on Friday.So has the strike begun?
I got my rum and TP stocked up today
bigun
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Hopefully no one else in town will be paying any attention and I can add some more supplies on Friday
smurfblue40
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I’m hoping the same.
I’m taking my Friday supply run in a different direction this week so I can make a stop at the DMV to update my driver’s license. I try to keep our supplies at a level to cover a “Oh shit” scenario. I’m going to inventory the meat freezer and make adjustments this week just incase.
That bulk Spam at Costco has been talking to me recently
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Soooo...if I wanted to be an owner/operator without association, what am I looking at for an OTR willing to go anywhere with a name yearly? I'm probing lots of stuff with minimal deep exploration right now, so please excuse any stupid questions....and I've priced nonspecific hardware.Cool, now pay rates worth a fuck to truckers and maybe I'll go back on the road for a bit.
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Yeah that’s a crazy way to do itWhat's interesting that they point out that none of this could possibly be a reaction to shortages and skyrocketing cost of living brought on by government intervention in the economy, couldn't possibly be that!!!
I do stand by the railroad workers on their on call schedule, I looked into a railroading job and talked to some people in it and said fuck that.
Friend of mine works for a RR and he is required to have a two hour response time and no set work schedule .
He sits at home for days waiting and They finally call and he has to be there in two hours .
F that noise .
Do they just decide randomly to put together a train and send it out ?
Or do they plan it and schedule it days or weeks ahead of time so it doesn’t collide with other trains on the tracks ?
And if they plan it days ahead of time , can’t they just schedule the workers at the same time ?
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I know it's fucked up but I was hoping it would all burn.
bigun
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Tentative labor agreement avoids rail strike
The cooling off period extends as the deal heads to railway unions for ratification
Tentative labor agreement avoids rail strike
Getty/iStockphotoThe cooling off period extends as the deal heads to railway unions for ratification
Rachel Schutte | Sep 15, 2022
Rail companies and unions reached a tentative deal to avoid a strike early this morning, following 20 hours of talks mediated by Labor Secretary Martin Walsh. President Joe Biden also joined in on the call around 9 p.m. yesterday evening.
This agreement does not mean the threat of a strike has dissipated entirely – the deal still is subject to ratification by union members. Workers have agreed not to strike while the vote is tallied.
“The tentative agreement reached tonight is an important win for our economy and the American people,” says Biden in a statement issued by the White House. “These rail workers will get better pay, improved working conditions, and peace of mind around their health care costs: all hard-earned.”
The Association of American Railroads thanked its members involved in the collective bargaining process. The group says new contracts provide rail employees with a 24% wave increase during the five-year period (2020-2024), including a payout upon ratification on average of $11K per employee.
Bloomberg reports in early trading, shares of major freight railroads rose, with CSX Corp. gaining 2.1%, Norfolk Southern Corp. up 1.5% and Union Pacific Corp. advancing 4.7%.
The agreement averts a crippling rail shutdown for food and fuel supplies across the country. The cool off period for negotiations was set to expire at 12:01 a.m. on Friday, when a railroad strike, lockout or slowdown was possible.
The Soy Transportation Coalition commends the efforts from both sides of the table to reach the tentative agreement. “Our nation’s railroads are integral to the success of the American farmer,” says Mike Steenhoek, executive director. “Without cost-effective, reliable rail service, so much of what farmers produce will never connect with our domestic and international customers.”
“A strike, lockout, or significant slowdown would have imposed significant harm on agriculture – particularly on the eve of harvest,” Steenhoek adds. “The tentative agreement allows farmers and U.S. agriculture to proceed with doing what they do best – being the highest quality, most reliable provider of food to the world.”
It’s unclear how quickly standard rail operations will resume, and how much lag the economy will already feel from slowdowns and disruptions leading up to this agreement.
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People just think prices have gone up. They better have their depends on before long.Tentative labor agreement avoids rail strike
The cooling off period extends as the deal heads to railway unions for ratificationwww.farmprogress.com
Tentative labor agreement avoids rail strike
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The cooling off period extends as the deal heads to railway unions for ratification
Rachel Schutte | Sep 15, 2022
Rail companies and unions reached a tentative deal to avoid a strike early this morning, following 20 hours of talks mediated by Labor Secretary Martin Walsh. President Joe Biden also joined in on the call around 9 p.m. yesterday evening.
This agreement does not mean the threat of a strike has dissipated entirely – the deal still is subject to ratification by union members. Workers have agreed not to strike while the vote is tallied.
“The tentative agreement reached tonight is an important win for our economy and the American people,” says Biden in a statement issued by the White House. “These rail workers will get better pay, improved working conditions, and peace of mind around their health care costs: all hard-earned.”
The Association of American Railroads thanked its members involved in the collective bargaining process. The group says new contracts provide rail employees with a 24% wave increase during the five-year period (2020-2024), including a payout upon ratification on average of $11K per employee.
Bloomberg reports in early trading, shares of major freight railroads rose, with CSX Corp. gaining 2.1%, Norfolk Southern Corp. up 1.5% and Union Pacific Corp. advancing 4.7%.
The agreement averts a crippling rail shutdown for food and fuel supplies across the country. The cool off period for negotiations was set to expire at 12:01 a.m. on Friday, when a railroad strike, lockout or slowdown was possible.
The Soy Transportation Coalition commends the efforts from both sides of the table to reach the tentative agreement. “Our nation’s railroads are integral to the success of the American farmer,” says Mike Steenhoek, executive director. “Without cost-effective, reliable rail service, so much of what farmers produce will never connect with our domestic and international customers.”
“A strike, lockout, or significant slowdown would have imposed significant harm on agriculture – particularly on the eve of harvest,” Steenhoek adds. “The tentative agreement allows farmers and U.S. agriculture to proceed with doing what they do best – being the highest quality, most reliable provider of food to the world.”
It’s unclear how quickly standard rail operations will resume, and how much lag the economy will already feel from slowdowns and disruptions leading up to this agreement.
