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MInneapolis declares suicide, without cop involvement... YAY!

woods said:
So all my info comes from just a couple for forums now. Haven't heard much about Trump on this whole police thing. Honestly, I haven't heard much about him at all on much of anything lately. He just stepping back and letting the D's eat their own? :confused:
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Trump sent out a message saying "Biden wants to defund police". It took sleepy Joe two days to decide if he was supposed to disagree with Trump or not.

Trump :stirthepot::grinpimp::usa:

Biden :eek::confused::homer:

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Broncokyle88 said:
I saw something that actually made a lot of sense to me. A lot of other social services have been cut, child protection, mental health, domestic disputes, drug treatment, and their funding and responsibilities have been given to the police. Officer are given very little training on how to deal with these new responsibilities, which is why we have so many suck ass interactions with the police. You have mother fuckers responding to calls for someone tripping balls or trying to off themselves who are stuck in the mindset of using force and fear (wether it be financial or physical) to make someone submit to them, which is what their primary function is with upholding the law/revenue generation.

We need to get back to the police just policing, enforcing the laws, and not trying to be mediators or provide mental health services. We need to cut the funding for the police, not eliminate them, and send it back where it belongs in the first place. We have tried to turn a hammer into a multi tool, and no matter how hard you try a hammer is only going to do 1 or two things really well. Trying to make a hammer do other shit is just going to make it hammer less effectively, and totally suck ass at anything else you want it to do.

We all know the importance of using the right tool for the job, and how bad it can suck if you don’t have it and soldier on anyway.

Thats the gist of the reasonable liberal propaganda I had read, just reformatted to fit better with all the wrench turning hillbilly’s on here
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NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE said:
yea that sums it up really.
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No it doesn't. We spend more on Mental Health than ever before. We spend more on social services than ever before. Back in the 1980s, if a homeless man went on a cocaine psychotic break, the cops would show up, beat him into submission, and throw him in jail.

The standards have changed, and everyone has a camera, and everyone is in an echo chamber.

The wars on terror have stimulated more spending on social services, not less.

Inner Cities are absolutely lousy with government-funded private charities doing homeless outreach and street mental health care.

As a former homeless man, I can assure you that spending more on mental health services is going to get you fuckall. The homeless people who are truly mentally ill are well taken care of. What you want to spend money on is to enable more DRUG ADDICTS.

Social workers already see to it that the Druggies come last and the Ill come first. The only Ill people you see on the streets are the people that belong there. Yes can you get this through your widdle minds: There are some mentally ill people who are way better off on the streets than they are in a Group Home or an Institution. I know this is mind-bending because of your Vice documentaries, but this is acknowledged fact among social workers. I know, I've worked at a homeless social services outfit for my meal ticket at one time.

Neither of you has any idea of what you're tlaking about. We spend MORE on mental health now than at any time. Even the Social Workers know it.
 
Stuck said:
You guys spouting off about defending the police and replaci g it with LE run by an elected official are fucking morons. Who do the police work for? Police chief or commisioner, right? Who does the PC work for and how do the get their job? They work for the Mayor or city council, and they are appointed by and answer to these individuals. Now the big question. How do the mayor or city cou cil members get their position? God damn, thats right theyre fucking elected! So tell me again how is this stupid idea any different? If you mean go to a system like a sheriff where the hnic is elected directly. Then why dont start looking at statistics and see who the most fucking corrupt officials have been and which depts have the most issues (per capita)2@@ nationwide over the past decades of having sheriffs.
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Pipe down skippy… The po-po work for WE the people. The adults are talking here, go grab a carpet square and have a nap ya little crap stain.
 
jeepyj said:
Trump sent out a message saying "Biden wants to defund police". It took sleepy Joe two days to decide if he was supposed to disagree with Trump or not.

Trump :stirthepot::grinpimp::usa:

Biden :eek::confused::homer:

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and now, both biden and trump have come out saying "defund the police is bad"

go find some articles and read them side by side, pretty fun :laughing:
 
Philonise Floyd is scheduled to testify before Congress on Wednesday, the

:mr-t: Name is felonious... for fucking reals.
 
NOTHINGWILLCHANGELANCE said:
and if that doesn't happen? then what? humor me.
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Ok, so I finally was able to get onto my computer, and barely have an internet connection, but we'll see how this goes. I wasn't about to try and type this out on my fucking phone screen...

While said somewhat in jest, mostly sarcastically, and partially hopeful that it actually happens, let me clarify more on my point. And no, I'm not about to back down and change my mind, but I am willing to at least lay out my train of thought.

The citizens wish to at a minimum, defund and reallocate funds; the extremists wouldn't be happy until there are no police on the streets. Apparently, they don't feel safe when a police officer is around (Ironically, in Indiana near Crown Point, one of the protesters as she passed by the individuals standing there along a wall with AR-15's strapped to themselves, she stated she was terrified, and was so happy a POLICE OFFICER was nearby escorting them. Yet, she's protesting the police officers, the same ones she was happy were there to protect her from the scary "assault rifles").

Not my main point, but it does highlight where I'm going with this.

Not every cop is bad. Not every cop is good. Cops are human like the rest of us. Some are legitimately trying to help, and make mistakes. Some are just awesome at their jobs, and are truly great people to be around. Some are just straight up shitbirds, and shouldn't be allowed to breed. That being said, getting rid of all of them is not the answer. Defunding them to the point where they can't staff a full response is not the answer either. Holding them accountable, the first time they screw up, not sweeping it under the rug, that's the answer.

If you defund a police department to the point where they can't operate due to broken down equipment, lack of personnel, or in the extreme where the SJW's finally get what they want and get rid of their local police department completely, what is going to happen? When I say the city is going to burn, I may be using a bit of poetic exaggeration there. Do I truly believe it's going to burn overnight? Not really. But it's human nature and when the deterrent is gone, then the mice will come out and play. And play some more, and more, until petty thefts turn into burglaries, burglaries turn into armed robberies, armed robberies turn into violent crimes, etc etc. I don't have a timeline. I don't know the timeline for when this would happen. But eventually, if left to their own devices, it's going to happen.

"Communities will police their own" Sure they will...and that always turns out well. Ask Treyvon Martin how it turned out when an individual in the community decided he was going to take justice into his own hands...oh wait. That's right. You'll have individuals running around shooting first, asking questions never, because there are entirely too many fucking idiots out there that carry on a daily basis, and don't have the first fucking clue of the responsibility they have when they strap that holster with the loaded firearm onto their belt. There is carrying, and then there is responsible carrying. Even as a die hard 2A believer, and as much as I refuse to feel the government has any right to regulate the firearms I own, AND as a certified NRA firearms instructor, I still believe there are mouth breathers out there that have no business carrying a firearm. But I digress again.

Even defunding the police departments is not the answer. Why? Take Indianapolis for example. The community for years now has been up in arms about why IMPD doesn't have body cams. "There needs to be accountability, they should all have body cams". Funny thing is, they've been on a hiring freeze, due to budgetary restrictions, a bunch of them have been retiring, they're short funded already, and can't afford the body cams in the first place. So lets just go ahead and take even more money away from them. Let's make sure we hamstring them even more. They want a committee of all civilians to hold IMPD accountable. Personally, I think that's an absolutely idiotic idea, but if you want to know why, that'll have to be a separate post.
Back to defunding them. If they're short staffed, under budgeted, and already scraping by, what's actually going to help them out? Taking even more money away? Why not look into the personnel and accountability. Hold your own accountable. Hold them to a higher standard, lead them by example, and if they fuck it up like those fuckwads in Minneapolis did, then by all means, string them up the flagpole. Every good unit and good leader I had in 14 years in the Marine Corps operated by those standards, and it worked. The shitbirds were there, sure, but when we weren't hamstrung, we were able to get rid of them, or in a few cases, even fix them (I say a few cases, because I'll be honest, you rarely got through to the true shitbirds).

I keep hearing, "I don't trust cops; I'm scared of them; If you're not white, then you're fucked". First off, I'm not white. Let me set that straight. I'm asian, korean to be specific. You want to know something funny? Almost all the racism I've dealt with has come from other asians, and mostly koreans, because they can't understand why the fuck I don't do what they do, or act how a korean should act. Years ago, I was approached by another korean, who asked me "Why are you hanging out with all these white guys? Look man, if you ever want to do asian stuff, I'm over in these barracks, hit me up."
To this day, I still have no fucking clue what the fuck asian stuff is.
Back on topic. I've only ever met one cop who was fucking with us, and that a Fontana cop who pulled us over on the freeway, trying to fuck with us; I think my buddy and I were 18,19 years old; we were either both PFC's or LCpl's at the time, so it was a while back. Since then, never have I had an issue with any cop. I've lived in small rural towns for years. Yeah, I'm usually a little out of place in most of the places I've lived. Probably the only person in 10 miles with black hair and slanted eyes. Still never had a problem. I've been popped quite a few times for speeding; it's gotten a bit expensive over the years, but I've also gotten off with a lot more warnings than I deserved to get. Why? Because I'm honest, respectful and friendly. I know damn well every time I was pulled over since that Fontana cop, it's been for good reason. I knew what I was doing. Why am I going to act the fool and try and get out of it. Yep, I gambled, broke a law, and got caught. Now it's time to take my punishment like a man. Sometimes I eat the ticket, sometimes its a warning and have a good day.

Problem is, not everyone has that mentality. So as soon as the police departments in the cities get defunded, kicked out, whatever the SJW's of today want to do, those SJW's are going to be the first ones bitching moaning and complaining about how there's never a cop when they need one, when they're the ones getting robbed, broken into, or wronged. Yet those same SJW's are going to be the exact same person that will tell you they don't trust any cops. That's their prerogative. They can not trust them all they want. But lumping every single cop into the same pool of "I don't trust you because you're a cop" is lunacy, and honestly, the result of a small minded individual, who refuses to accept that there may be another point of view that actually doesn't agree with him, but isn't necessarily wrong.

Anyway. There's my response. Hope I humored you to sleep, but I'm happy to actually have a legitimate discussion with anyone. I just typically don't try, because it almost always goes straight to monkey's flinging shit at each other, and I just don't need that anymore.
 
Drakeslayer said:
So, what really happens when there is no law enforcement? You have to look no further than the riots in Minneapolis, criminals looting and beating innocent business people. Check out the videos of rioters beating the innocent couple who were just trying to prevent the destruction of their business. It is sickening. I fear it will go further into people of supposedly "privileged class" being dragged from their cars and homes and beaten death or hanged as reparations for their supposed ancestors transgressions. Without penalty for lawlessness, what is to stop it? They are chanting death to cops, pigs in a blanket fry them like bacon. If the cops are killed first , what demographic is next? They will get to you or someone you care about soon enough. Protests are fine but the violence must stop.

Reform must start at the top, mayors, councils, administrators first, not at the street level. If those in charge won't stand against bad policies and cops that ignore rules then vote them out and demand candidates that will try the bad cops. Don't tar all the caps with the same brush.
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I'm not actually stating that cops need to be killed, or removed. It's more along the lines of if they're that stupid that they want no police in their city, then go ahead, let them have it. For too long as a society now, we've taught there are no consequences for your actions, it's always someone else's fault (starting with participation trophies). If they think they know what's best, and that is no police presence whatsoever, then fine. Let them have what they want. They'll come crawling back sooner or later. That was really the point I was making with my sarcastic post.
 
Dennhop said:
I'm not actually stating that cops need to be killed, or removed. It's more along the lines of if they're that stupid that they want no police in their city, then go ahead, let them have it. For too long as a society now, we've taught there are no consequences for your actions, it's always someone else's fault (starting with participation trophies). If they think they know what's best, and that is no police presence whatsoever, then fine. Let them have what they want. They'll come crawling back sooner or later. That was really the point I was making with my sarcastic post.
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I don't think we disagree, I was just musing on how I think it will go if total defunding/dissolution of police happens. Then I suggested how I see bad cops/use of force policies might be improved. I just feel sorry for any innocent people who will come to harm.
 
Dennhop said:
Ok, so I finally was able to get onto my computer, and barely have an internet connection, but we'll see how this goes. I wasn't about to try and type this out on my fucking phone screen...

While said somewhat in jest, mostly sarcastically, and partially hopeful that it actually happens, let me clarify more on my point. And no, I'm not about to back down and change my mind, but I am willing to at least lay out my train of thought.

The citizens wish to at a minimum, defund and reallocate funds; the extremists wouldn't be happy until there are no police on the streets. Apparently, they don't feel safe when a police officer is around (Ironically, in Indiana near Crown Point, one of the protesters as she passed by the individuals standing there along a wall with AR-15's strapped to themselves, she stated she was terrified, and was so happy a POLICE OFFICER was nearby escorting them. Yet, she's protesting the police officers, the same ones she was happy were there to protect her from the scary "assault rifles").

Not my main point, but it does highlight where I'm going with this.

Not every cop is bad. Not every cop is good. Cops are human like the rest of us. Some are legitimately trying to help, and make mistakes. Some are just awesome at their jobs, and are truly great people to be around. Some are just straight up shitbirds, and shouldn't be allowed to breed. That being said, getting rid of all of them is not the answer. Defunding them to the point where they can't staff a full response is not the answer either. Holding them accountable, the first time they screw up, not sweeping it under the rug, that's the answer.

If you defund a police department to the point where they can't operate due to broken down equipment, lack of personnel, or in the extreme where the SJW's finally get what they want and get rid of their local police department completely, what is going to happen? When I say the city is going to burn, I may be using a bit of poetic exaggeration there. Do I truly believe it's going to burn overnight? Not really. But it's human nature and when the deterrent is gone, then the mice will come out and play. And play some more, and more, until petty thefts turn into burglaries, burglaries turn into armed robberies, armed robberies turn into violent crimes, etc etc. I don't have a timeline. I don't know the timeline for when this would happen. But eventually, if left to their own devices, it's going to happen.

"Communities will police their own" Sure they will...and that always turns out well. Ask Treyvon Martin how it turned out when an individual in the community decided he was going to take justice into his own hands...oh wait. That's right. You'll have individuals running around shooting first, asking questions never, because there are entirely too many fucking idiots out there that carry on a daily basis, and don't have the first fucking clue of the responsibility they have when they strap that holster with the loaded firearm onto their belt. There is carrying, and then there is responsible carrying. Even as a die hard 2A believer, and as much as I refuse to feel the government has any right to regulate the firearms I own, AND as a certified NRA firearms instructor, I still believe there are mouth breathers out there that have no business carrying a firearm. But I digress again.

Even defunding the police departments is not the answer. Why? Take Indianapolis for example. The community for years now has been up in arms about why IMPD doesn't have body cams. "There needs to be accountability, they should all have body cams". Funny thing is, they've been on a hiring freeze, due to budgetary restrictions, a bunch of them have been retiring, they're short funded already, and can't afford the body cams in the first place. So lets just go ahead and take even more money away from them. Let's make sure we hamstring them even more. They want a committee of all civilians to hold IMPD accountable. Personally, I think that's an absolutely idiotic idea, but if you want to know why, that'll have to be a separate post.
Back to defunding them. If they're short staffed, under budgeted, and already scraping by, what's actually going to help them out? Taking even more money away? Why not look into the personnel and accountability. Hold your own accountable. Hold them to a higher standard, lead them by example, and if they fuck it up like those fuckwads in Minneapolis did, then by all means, string them up the flagpole. Every good unit and good leader I had in 14 years in the Marine Corps operated by those standards, and it worked. The shitbirds were there, sure, but when we weren't hamstrung, we were able to get rid of them, or in a few cases, even fix them (I say a few cases, because I'll be honest, you rarely got through to the true shitbirds).

I keep hearing, "I don't trust cops; I'm scared of them; If you're not white, then you're fucked". First off, I'm not white. Let me set that straight. I'm asian, korean to be specific. You want to know something funny? Almost all the racism I've dealt with has come from other asians, and mostly koreans, because they can't understand why the fuck I don't do what they do, or act how a korean should act. Years ago, I was approached by another korean, who asked me "Why are you hanging out with all these white guys? Look man, if you ever want to do asian stuff, I'm over in these barracks, hit me up."
To this day, I still have no fucking clue what the fuck asian stuff is.
Back on topic. I've only ever met one cop who was fucking with us, and that a Fontana cop who pulled us over on the freeway, trying to fuck with us; I think my buddy and I were 18,19 years old; we were either both PFC's or LCpl's at the time, so it was a while back. Since then, never have I had an issue with any cop. I've lived in small rural towns for years. Yeah, I'm usually a little out of place in most of the places I've lived. Probably the only person in 10 miles with black hair and slanted eyes. Still never had a problem. I've been popped quite a few times for speeding; it's gotten a bit expensive over the years, but I've also gotten off with a lot more warnings than I deserved to get. Why? Because I'm honest, respectful and friendly. I know damn well every time I was pulled over since that Fontana cop, it's been for good reason. I knew what I was doing. Why am I going to act the fool and try and get out of it. Yep, I gambled, broke a law, and got caught. Now it's time to take my punishment like a man. Sometimes I eat the ticket, sometimes its a warning and have a good day.

Problem is, not everyone has that mentality. So as soon as the police departments in the cities get defunded, kicked out, whatever the SJW's of today want to do, those SJW's are going to be the first ones bitching moaning and complaining about how there's never a cop when they need one, when they're the ones getting robbed, broken into, or wronged. Yet those same SJW's are going to be the exact same person that will tell you they don't trust any cops. That's their prerogative. They can not trust them all they want. But lumping every single cop into the same pool of "I don't trust you because you're a cop" is lunacy, and honestly, the result of a small minded individual, who refuses to accept that there may be another point of view that actually doesn't agree with him, but isn't necessarily wrong.

Anyway. There's my response. Hope I humored you to sleep, but I'm happy to actually have a legitimate discussion with anyone. I just typically don't try, because it almost always goes straight to monkey's flinging shit at each other, and I just don't need that anymore.
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hey you took a long time to lay stuff out. give me a bit to respond as I want to respect your effort.
 
Provience said:
well, if we are talking about who are the most corrupt publicly elected law enforcement officials, the list kind of choices about starts and ends with Sheriffs :flipoff2:
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I didnt say publicly elected. I just said law enforcement officials. That means elected, appointed, or promoted. Out of all of these, sheriffs (elected) have continually proven to be more corrupt than their non elected counterparts. There are several factors but the largest by far is allegiance to the money that got them elected.
 
Dennhop said:
Ok, so I finally was able to get onto my computer, and barely have an internet connection, but we'll see how this goes. I wasn't about to try and type this out on my fucking phone screen...

While said somewhat in jest, mostly sarcastically, and partially hopeful that it actually happens, let me clarify more on my point. And no, I'm not about to back down and change my mind, but I am willing to at least lay out my train of thought.

The citizens wish to at a minimum, defund and reallocate funds; the extremists wouldn't be happy until there are no police on the streets. Apparently, they don't feel safe when a police officer is around (Ironically, in Indiana near Crown Point, one of the protesters as she passed by the individuals standing there along a wall with AR-15's strapped to themselves, she stated she was terrified, and was so happy a POLICE OFFICER was nearby escorting them. Yet, she's protesting the police officers, the same ones she was happy were there to protect her from the scary "assault rifles").

Not my main point, but it does highlight where I'm going with this.

Not every cop is bad. Not every cop is good. Cops are human like the rest of us. Some are legitimately trying to help, and make mistakes. Some are just awesome at their jobs, and are truly great people to be around. Some are just straight up shitbirds, and shouldn't be allowed to breed. That being said, getting rid of all of them is not the answer. Defunding them to the point where they can't staff a full response is not the answer either. Holding them accountable, the first time they screw up, not sweeping it under the rug, that's the answer.

If you defund a police department to the point where they can't operate due to broken down equipment, lack of personnel, or in the extreme where the SJW's finally get what they want and get rid of their local police department completely, what is going to happen? When I say the city is going to burn, I may be using a bit of poetic exaggeration there. Do I truly believe it's going to burn overnight? Not really. But it's human nature and when the deterrent is gone, then the mice will come out and play. And play some more, and more, until petty thefts turn into burglaries, burglaries turn into armed robberies, armed robberies turn into violent crimes, etc etc. I don't have a timeline. I don't know the timeline for when this would happen. But eventually, if left to their own devices, it's going to happen.

"Communities will police their own" Sure they will...and that always turns out well. Ask Treyvon Martin how it turned out when an individual in the community decided he was going to take justice into his own hands...oh wait. That's right. You'll have individuals running around shooting first, asking questions never, because there are entirely too many fucking idiots out there that carry on a daily basis, and don't have the first fucking clue of the responsibility they have when they strap that holster with the loaded firearm onto their belt. There is carrying, and then there is responsible carrying. Even as a die hard 2A believer, and as much as I refuse to feel the government has any right to regulate the firearms I own, AND as a certified NRA firearms instructor, I still believe there are mouth breathers out there that have no business carrying a firearm. But I digress again.

Even defunding the police departments is not the answer. Why? Take Indianapolis for example. The community for years now has been up in arms about why IMPD doesn't have body cams. "There needs to be accountability, they should all have body cams". Funny thing is, they've been on a hiring freeze, due to budgetary restrictions, a bunch of them have been retiring, they're short funded already, and can't afford the body cams in the first place. So lets just go ahead and take even more money away from them. Let's make sure we hamstring them even more. They want a committee of all civilians to hold IMPD accountable. Personally, I think that's an absolutely idiotic idea, but if you want to know why, that'll have to be a separate post.
Back to defunding them. If they're short staffed, under budgeted, and already scraping by, what's actually going to help them out? Taking even more money away? Why not look into the personnel and accountability. Hold your own accountable. Hold them to a higher standard, lead them by example, and if they fuck it up like those fuckwads in Minneapolis did, then by all means, string them up the flagpole. Every good unit and good leader I had in 14 years in the Marine Corps operated by those standards, and it worked. The shitbirds were there, sure, but when we weren't hamstrung, we were able to get rid of them, or in a few cases, even fix them (I say a few cases, because I'll be honest, you rarely got through to the true shitbirds).

I keep hearing, "I don't trust cops; I'm scared of them; If you're not white, then you're fucked". First off, I'm not white. Let me set that straight. I'm asian, korean to be specific. You want to know something funny? Almost all the racism I've dealt with has come from other asians, and mostly koreans, because they can't understand why the fuck I don't do what they do, or act how a korean should act. Years ago, I was approached by another korean, who asked me "Why are you hanging out with all these white guys? Look man, if you ever want to do asian stuff, I'm over in these barracks, hit me up."
To this day, I still have no fucking clue what the fuck asian stuff is.
Back on topic. I've only ever met one cop who was fucking with us, and that a Fontana cop who pulled us over on the freeway, trying to fuck with us; I think my buddy and I were 18,19 years old; we were either both PFC's or LCpl's at the time, so it was a while back. Since then, never have I had an issue with any cop. I've lived in small rural towns for years. Yeah, I'm usually a little out of place in most of the places I've lived. Probably the only person in 10 miles with black hair and slanted eyes. Still never had a problem. I've been popped quite a few times for speeding; it's gotten a bit expensive over the years, but I've also gotten off with a lot more warnings than I deserved to get. Why? Because I'm honest, respectful and friendly. I know damn well every time I was pulled over since that Fontana cop, it's been for good reason. I knew what I was doing. Why am I going to act the fool and try and get out of it. Yep, I gambled, broke a law, and got caught. Now it's time to take my punishment like a man. Sometimes I eat the ticket, sometimes its a warning and have a good day.

Problem is, not everyone has that mentality. So as soon as the police departments in the cities get defunded, kicked out, whatever the SJW's of today want to do, those SJW's are going to be the first ones bitching moaning and complaining about how there's never a cop when they need one, when they're the ones getting robbed, broken into, or wronged. Yet those same SJW's are going to be the exact same person that will tell you they don't trust any cops. That's their prerogative. They can not trust them all they want. But lumping every single cop into the same pool of "I don't trust you because you're a cop" is lunacy, and honestly, the result of a small minded individual, who refuses to accept that there may be another point of view that actually doesn't agree with him, but isn't necessarily wrong.

Anyway. There's my response. Hope I humored you to sleep, but I'm happy to actually have a legitimate discussion with anyone. I just typically don't try, because it almost always goes straight to monkey's flinging shit at each other, and I just don't need that anymore.
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Your claim about them being underfunded and unable to purchase body cams is laughable. Here is an idea..... How about they stop wasting our money on buying blacked out police cars, the latest greatest mobile licence plate scanners, latest greatest radar gadgets, all the tacticool BS, and any other thing they can get their greedy little hands on that does nothing for the communities except generating more revenue that the police use to buy more equipment that serves the public no useful purpose, and does fuck all "To protect" us.

Once that shit stops we can have another chat about the police and how "great" they are. :shaking:
 
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Stuck said:
I didnt say publicly elected. I just said law enforcement officials. That means elected, appointed, or promoted. Out of all of these, sheriffs (elected) have continually proven to be more corrupt than their non elected counterparts. There are several factors but the largest by far is allegiance to the money that got them elected.
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yes, i don't disagree.

every now and then i get the thought to go join small town sheriff office and make a difference and such, but the politics....ugh, slimy. it'd be easier to run for congress :lmao:
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
Your claim about them being underfunded and unable to purchase body cams is laughable. Here is an idea..... How about they stop wasting our money on buying blacked out police cars, the latest greatest mobile licence plate scanners, latest greatest radar gadgets, all the tacticool BS, and any other thing they can get their greedy little hands on that does nothing for the communities except generating more revenue that the police use to buy more equipment that serves the public no useful purpose, and does fuck all "To protect" us.

Once that shit stops we can have another chat about the police and how "great" they are. :shaking:
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Not all police departments are the same. I can't speak for the department in your hometown home City home state. what I can say is I know for a fact having worked hand-in-hand with IMBD for several years on the EMS side that I am PDF does not have the money for all that high-speed low-drag gadgetry that you're talking about. I know for a fact that they literally have two radar guns that they have to sign out if for some reason they actually decided they're going to set up a speed trap. which in about a decade of living here I can tell you I've never been pulled over by MVD for speeding on the highway.I'm not saying all police departments are great I'm not saying that all police departments suck I'm merely holding the facts as I know them and stating my personal opinions on what's going on.
 
Voice to text sucks pretty much was trying to spell out Indianapolis metro Police department in the acronyms but voice-to-text failed me miserably
 
Dennhop said:
Voice to text sucks pretty much was trying to spell out Indianapolis metro Police department in the acronyms but voice-to-text failed me miserably
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IDK WTF! :flipoff2:


I'd like to see the camera excuse taken off the table. There is no reason they could be made a priority.


Couldn't Bezos send them VIA Prime? Better than all the Twitter posturing and crap he is spewing.
 
Johann said:
IDK WTF! :flipoff2:


I'd like to see the camera excuse taken off the table. There is no reason they could be made a priority.


Couldn't Bezos send them VIA Prime? Better than all the Twitter posturing and crap he is spewing.
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when I can get to my computer this evening I'll go a little more in-depth on the body camera issue
 
Let the shithole cities turn themselves into shithole Thunderdomes. We already know Democrats never learn a lesson from anything but, just maybe, a few of them will be lost in the chaos. Just look at whats happened in the riots WHEN the cops were around, now take away the cops. I feel sorry for the innocent people who will be killed. They should start running away now.

This is one of those times where you just have to sit back and watch the show.

The Progressive poison needs to be stopped at the source.
 
gt1guy said:
Let the shithole cities turn themselves into shithole Thunderdomes. We already know Democrats never learn a lesson from anything but, just maybe, a few of them will be lost in the chaos. Just look at whats happened in the riots WHEN the cops were around, now take away the cops. I feel sorry for the innocent people who will be killed. They should start running away now.

This is one of those times where you just have to sit back and watch the show.

The Progressive poison needs to be stopped at the source.
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I think the liberal progressives are worse than communists, but if they burn their cities they will move to ours. The only solution is elimination of the ideology.
 
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