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carried a dot for a li'l bit
you seem like the sort that's a good bit cleaner in general, but I'd still try for some kinda enclosed thing rather than the eotech style (if anyone makes a li'l baaaaby one)

mine filled with dirt, and welding sparks were killing the glass so I stopped carrying it and went back to irons
 
I have The FNX45T and love it. Really looking hard at the FN Reflex for a new EDC. I got to fingerfuck one at the NRA convention and I really liked it. For $50 extra you can get one with an optic cut.
 
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[486] said:
carried a dot for a li'l bit
you seem like the sort that's a good bit cleaner in general, but I'd still try for some kinda enclosed thing rather than the eotech style (if anyone makes a li'l baaaaby one)

mine filled with dirt, and welding sparks were killing the glass so I stopped carrying it and went back to irons
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All this red dot on a carry peice is just insanity to me. WTF.
 
Texas97 said:
All this red dot on a carry peice is just insanity to me. WTF.
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when has an optic really ever been a detriment to your speed and accuracy?
I shoot irons just fine, but a dot is just faster and better.
for serious, I shot my buddy's and I was like "welp, now I'm ruined, every pistol should have a dot"
 
[486] said:
carried a dot for a li'l bit
you seem like the sort that's a good bit cleaner in general, but I'd still try for some kinda enclosed thing rather than the eotech style (if anyone makes a li'l baaaaby one)

mine filled with dirt, and welding sparks were killing the glass so I stopped carrying it and went back to irons
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I usually put it up before I do shop things. Shouldn't be a big problem for me.
 
87manche said:
when has an optic really ever been a detriment to your speed and accuracy?
I shoot irons just fine, but a dot is just faster and better.
for serious, I shot my buddy's and I was like "welp, now I'm ruined, every pistol should have a dot"
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I found that mine slowed me way the fuck down until I trained myself to ignore the dot entirely
 
[486] said:
I found that mine slowed me way the fuck down until I trained myself to ignore the dot entirely
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well obviously I'll practice with it until I'm comfrotable. ain't no get a new pistol and then carry it without putting 500 rounds through it for me.
[486] said:
stupid
stick it in your pants when you get outta bed, take it out when you take your pants off for the night
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don't worry sweetheart, it's never more than 6 feet away.
 
[486] said:
that's when the feds show up to waterboard you for jollies
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if the feds show up I don't think it's going to matter much if it's on my person or 6 feet away.
because I need a rifle at that point.
 
87manche said:
when has an optic really ever been a detriment to your speed and accuracy?
I shoot irons just fine, but a dot is just faster and better.
for serious, I shot my buddy's and I was like "welp, now I'm ruined, every pistol should have a dot"
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I'm about equal speed and accuracy optic vs not.

But I've also put less than 1000 handgun rounds downrange in my life so...

87manche said:
because I need half a dozen hand grenades at that point.
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FTFY

No way a single man is holding off an assault team without overwhelming firepower and we all know you're too poor for a machine gun. :flipoff2:
 
The reasons to carry a micro are comfort and concealment, correct? Why would you red dot a micro? Maybe a grip laser sight if anything.

I rarely actually look down my sights with a pistol. Point and shoot is how you should be training, so you get good enough you don't need sights to hit center mass or head shots from 15'.
 
87manche said:
when has an optic really ever been a detriment to your speed and accuracy?
I shoot irons just fine, but a dot is just faster and better.
for serious, I shot my buddy's and I was like "welp, now I'm ruined, every pistol should have a dot"
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why do you need it? most self defense happens inside 25-30 feet? in a speed situation its muscle memory point and shoot so why take something made small (micro carry guns) and add anything like a reddot that is a detriment to concealment?

everyone can do what they want, still doesnt mean i dont think its insanity.

its the same way i feel about people with RDS on top of 18" home defense shotguns. WTF for?!?
 
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Texas97 said:
why do you need it? most self defense happens inside 25-30 feet? in a speed situation its muscle memory point and shoot so why take something made small (micro carry guns) and add anything like a reddot that is a detriment to concealment?

everyone can do what they want, still doesnt mean i dont think its insanity.

its the same way i feel about people with RDS on top of 18" home defense shotguns. WTF for?!?
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because I want to be a cool kid again?

fuck man, now I'm all second guessing the path.
thanks dick.
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BDK said:
The reasons to carry a micro are comfort and concealment, correct? Why would you red dot a micro? Maybe a grip laser sight if anything.

I rarely actually look down my sights with a pistol. Point and shoot is how you should be training, so you get good enough you don't need sights to hit center mass or head shots from 15'.
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current carry pistol has a crimson trace laser johnny on it.
I don't particularly like it one way or the other.
works, mostly?
 
arse_sidewards said:
I'm about equal speed and accuracy optic vs not.

But I've also put less than 1000 handgun rounds downrange in my life so...


FTFY

No way a single man is holding off an assault team without overwhelming firepower and we all know you're too poor for a machine gun. :flipoff2:
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but I do own a drill press, and now I don't even have any dogs, so the ATF should leave me alone right?

calm down ATF, just a joke.
 
87manche said:
because I want to be a cool kid again?

fuck man, now I'm all second guessing the path.
thanks dick.
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We're you in a pool in a HOA community yesterday in Buckeye? My brother lives there, said some idiot was in the pool with a Glock in the waistband of his swim trunks. I asked him if he looked like this dude.
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87manche said:
current carry pistol has a crimson trace laser johnny on it.
I don't particularly like it one way or the other.
works, mostly?
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Lasers are a multi purpose type sight. They will help you get on target in poor light conditions, but also give away your position in the process. They are a great last ditch deterrent. Being lit up with a laser might be enough to keep someone from forcing you to shoot them. I have one on my home defense shotgun just for that. Big fat green laser. Thinking of getting a grip laser for my Kimber CDP II, which I carry regularly.

Would not have anything on it that takes away from the concealment and comfort of a daily carry pistol.
 
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valid arguments against.

now I have to think about it.
still gonna go finger fuck a few to see how I like it.
 
Meh I'd still run a dot. If it's not needed then great, the way my eyes are I'd rather have the option of a dot if needed. Too me it just runs similar thought process of why do you need more then 7 rounds, if you practice that should be plenty.
 
Weasel said:
Meh I'd still run a dot. If it's not needed then great, the way my eyes are I'd rather have the option of a dot if needed. Too me it just runs similar thought process of why do you need more then 7 rounds, if you practice that should be plenty.
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i cant get behind that analogy. thread title is "micro pistols" and then it was stated it was for carry. red dot defeats the purpose of a micro pistol. i liken it to having a 6" barrel on a micro grip sized frame that has 7 rounds in it. why do you need an extra 3" of barrel defeating why you have such a small frame to conceal?

now, you want to carry a full size race gun with RDS on top? ok, go for it. because obviously size and concealability are not the main traits you are looking for.

red dot on a true carry piece just seems like a solution looking for a problem.
 
Texas97 said:
i cant get behind that analogy. thread title is "micro pistols" and then it was stated it was for carry. red dot defeats the purpose of a micro pistol. i liken it to having a 6" barrel on a micro grip sized frame that has 7 rounds in it. why do you need an extra 3" of barrel defeating why you have such a small frame to conceal?

now, you want to carry a full size race gun with RDS on top? ok, go for it. because obviously size and concealability are not the main traits you are looking for.

red dot on a true carry piece just seems like a solution looking for a problem.
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A red dot is not going to make or break concealment on a small pistol. People do it all the time. If you don't want to, then don't :flipoff2:
 
YotaAtieToo said:
A red dot is not going to make or break concealment on a small pistol. People do it all the time. If you don't want to, then don't :flipoff2:
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to that point, a half or 3/4 on top of the slide isn't going to be a problem.

a full sized grip is since it sticks out passed my hip.
 
87manche said:
to that point, a half or 3/4 on top of the slide isn't going to be a problem.

a full sized grip is since it sticks out passed my hip.
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Try carrying the dot. If it conceals comfortably then great, it’s there if you need it. If you can’t hide it then take it off.
 
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