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Perfect example of if you feel you need one, wear one. I won't give anyone shit for wearing one if they feel they need it. My issue is with them being mandatory and citizens trying to police other citizens for not wearing one.

I think you're on the wrong side of history on this. SARS-CoV-19 can actually mutate and start wiping us the fuck out. That's exactly how the Spanish Flu happened. It was mild in the Spring, and by September that shit came back and started killing 25-year-olds.

The transmission between people on transports and trenches is how that happened. Only the strains that could infect military-aged men survived and evolved. Spanish Flu started out killing the Young and Old, when it came back, the fatality curve was a bell curve with a peak somewhere around 32 years old.

That shit could easily happen with SARS-CoV-19, and it's not August yet.

You guys really ought to wait until September or so before you get antsy over some masks.

I fully support your rebellious spirit but you should hold up on this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanis...e_of_late_1918

The second wave of the 1918 pandemic was much more deadly than the first. The first wave had resembled typical flu epidemics; those most at risk were the sick and elderly, while younger, healthier people recovered easily. October 1918 was the month with the highest fatality rate of the whole pandemic.[SUP][41][/SUP] In the United States, ~292,000 deaths were reported between September-December 1918, compared to ~26,000 during the same time period in 1915.[SUP][33][/SUP] Copenhagen reported over 60,000 deaths, Holland reported 40,000+ deaths from influenza and acute respiratory disease,
 
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I think you're on the wrong side of history on this. SARS-CoV-19 can actually mutate and start wiping us the fuck out. That's exactly how the Spanish Flu happened. It was mild in the Spring, and by September that shit came back and started killing 25-year-olds.

The transmission between people on transports and trenches is how that happened. Only the strains that could infect military-aged men survived and evolved. Spanish Flu started out killing the Young and Old, when it came back, the fatality curve was a bell curve with a peak somewhere around 32 years old.

That shit could easily happen with SARS-CoV-19, and it's not August yet.

You guys really ought to wait until September or so before you get antsy over some masks.

I fully support your rebellious spirit but you should hold up on this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanis...e_of_late_1918

The world has advanced quite a bit in the past hundred years with regards to hygiene and medical care, comparing the plandemic to the Spanish Flu is silly. We live in a different world than people that were around in 1918 being that the majority of us have such luxuries as soap and indoor plumbing.
 
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Well as of the July 1st they are mandatory around here. My works requires them now whenever indoors. I've been wearing buff bandanas for 20 years so I have about 30 of them. I wear one around my neck wherever I go and all I have to do is pull it up . Nobody even looks at me. That's the way I like it. I hate attention. So I guess that's my life now. Some people can be seen without a mask but nobody bothers them that I've seen.
 
We had some Karen in an Ace hardware store in line in front of us at check out, wife got within 6ft of her and did not see bitch look at her and move further away, I just chuckled . When the bitch finished At the check out she said to the cashier “thanks for wearing a mask”, the cashier had it below her nose. We step up to the cashier and the cashier says “if the store/state did not require me to wear a mask I would not be“. I just laughed and told the cashier to have a nice day.
 
I haven't had to say it yet, but if any store employee tries to stop me, I'll calmly but firmly say "I have a condition" while motioning to my face with a cupped hand, while continuing to move past

my condition is that I'm an asshole and not a sheep, but instead of standing on a soapbox at the entrance of a store berating an employee giving the Karen's something to talk about, or film, and take back to their echo chamber to circulate reinforcing the new normal, I politely neuter their dumb shit policy, go about my business and give everyone inside the business wearing masks the "bless your heart" smile, making some of them feel dumb for being sheep, spreading "my condition"
 
That’s my big concern. I’m not making my guys wear masks, so far most customers seem relieved that they don’t have to wear one in our office but all it takes is one Karen to bitch.

She comes in and bitches, but doesn't have one on herself, My boy right away found all of her social media and giggled about it.
Signed her up for a bunch of diet plan emails and porn.
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The picture she posted was inconclusive, it looked like from a profile it was up, but to the kids credit he admits when he talks its hard to keep it over his nose.


I'm with you though, some common sense and distance solves the issue.
 
I was in LOWES the other day, and they have been great, never mentioned a mask, and some of the employees are mask free, I get looks but screw them and I go about my day. Well this trip a guy with his 10 or so aged kid was in there to start a fight, He's not wearing a mask and neither is his kid. I catch him on a couple different isles ranting at people throwing arms pumping his chest, asking people what are you going to do about it? and make me.

dude, I'm in there twice a week and no one has stopped me or challenged me, seriously, go about your shopping and STFU. you look like an ass to your kid.
I swear he loaded up and headed down there because his old lady whopped his ass at home and he needed to show the kid .....SEE I'm a man, I scared little old ladies in LOWES gardening dept.:lmao:
 
Did you really tell the old guy exactly what you quoted as saying? That's fkg harsh if you did. :laughing:

I did. He was prolly 70, and a douche... I guess you had to be there, but the little wrinkled scowl could be seen right through his superman mask. That condescending look of disapproval and flair of "holier than thou art" attitude... I think I just had my limit that day. oops.
 
Can't say I'm an enormous fan of you threatening an old man, even an entitled asshole who wants you to cater to his desire to be a tourist.

The shit I'm reading in this thread has no real connection to the GCC I'm aware of. Who are you guys, getting in arguments with old timers and acting uncivil.

You guys need to back off. You know it's pretty easy to keep a mask in your pocket to avoid confrontation.

Don't let the Riot confrontation turn into you arguing with old white Trump voters maybe?

Sorry, I am far to knowledgeable on the subject of mask to be swayed by the court of public opinion... I spent 20 years writing manuals on ppe and working in an industry where environmental toxins, pathogens, teratogens and multiple other things could kill you. I'm not going to wear a face covering that protects me against what, maybe 50 microns for a virus that's .14 in size, just so your placebo can make you feel better.
 
I haven't had to say it yet, but if any store employee tries to stop me, I'll calmly but firmly say "I have a condition" while motioning to my face with a cupped hand, while continuing to move past

my condition is that I'm an asshole and not a sheep, but instead of standing on a soapbox at the entrance of a store berating an employee giving the Karen's something to talk about, or film, and take back to their echo chamber to circulate reinforcing the new normal, I politely neuter their dumb shit policy, go about my business and give everyone inside the business wearing masks the "bless your heart" smile, making some of them feel dumb for being sheep, spreading "my condition"

That's a neat idea. In my area, the non mask people out number the mask people by far. So I haven't had an issue yet. If a business requires it, they don't need my money.

I know a few people that tested positive, but had no symptoms. I still have yet to know anybody that has got sick or died of it.
 
The world has advanced quite a bit in the past hundred years with regards to hygiene and medical care, comparing the plandemic to the Spanish Flu is silly. We live in a different world than people that were around in 1918 being that the majority of us have such luxuries as soap and indoor plumbing.

Really, what 'technology' is it that is going to change? You sound like you're expecting a magic cure. There isn't one. Viral Flu is incurable. There is currently no vaccine, and one is not on the horizon. I can tell you haven't read up on the history of it, and you clearly haven't studied COVID. Have you even taken a biology class to begin understanding the esoteric language? You don't strike me as a man that will pause every 90 seconds while reading studies to look up terms. I have to do that and I'm quite well-read.

The primary 'technology' which is different from 1918 is communication. This both helps the flu spread, and can possibly help us contain it.

What makes you think people didn't have soap and plumbing? You think people were street-shitting in 1918? You really, really need to brush up on your history, you are way out of context here. Indoor WCs and sewers are common in the US in 1918, right down to small towns. People bathe often. Horses shit in the streets but they were going away rapidly due to the Model T. Streets had been cleaned up by a series of Sanitation laws in the late 19th Century (that's the 1800s, by the way). The Spanish Flu was not spread by horses or manure. Legions of street-sweepers in white clothes with rolling white bins swept up the streets every night in every city, just like you see on the cartoons.

You clearly didn't know that, and you have no clue what the 1918 world was like. In terms of the spread of Flu, 1918 is very, very close to today. Except today, with over-crowding, any Flu will spread faster.

The primary sanitation issue that changed from the Spanish Flu is spitting. People in the spring of 1918 continued spitting in the street, in defiance of ordinances and laws against it. Just like you do with masks.

By 1919, the entire view of spitting had changed. Not on farms of course. But in cities. Spitoons disappeared and people switched from smokeless to cigarettes, creating the modern Cigarette Industry. You got caught spitting on the street in 1919, you'd get your ass beat and thrown in jail.
You clearly didn't know ANY of the above.

You're also waving 'Technology' around like some idiot Lefty talking about self-driving cars.
 
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Haven't wore a mask once since this shit started. Also haven't gotten a hair cut either, so I look like a crazy hobo that usually is covered in layers of grease from work coupled with me wearing my wife's hairbands to keep the hair outta my eyes. People just look at me and don't say shit. At work I usually get a few comments about it and I tell them my shop, my rules. GTFO if you don't like it. Haven't had a customer care after that.
 
I think you're on the wrong side of history on this. SARS-CoV-19 can actually mutate and start wiping us the fuck out. That's exactly how the Spanish Flu happened. It was mild in the Spring, and by September that shit came back and started killing 25-year-olds.

The transmission between people on transports and trenches is how that happened. Only the strains that could infect military-aged men survived and evolved. Spanish Flu started out killing the Young and Old, when it came back, the fatality curve was a bell curve with a peak somewhere around 32 years old.

That shit could easily happen with SARS-CoV-19, and it's not August yet.

You guys really ought to wait until September or so before you get antsy over some masks.

I fully support your rebellious spirit but you should hold up on this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanis...e_of_late_1918

Wikipedia is not a real source. Find a real source.


on the other hand https://www.livescience.com/amp/are-face-masks-effective-reducing-coronavirus-spread.html

seems the “experts” still can’t determine if wearing a mask really helps. Same logic to me as not
putting gasoline on a fire puts it out. Technically yes but also no.
 
I think you're on the wrong side of history on this. SARS-CoV-19 can actually mutate and start wiping us the fuck out. That's exactly how the Spanish Flu happened. It was mild in the Spring, and by September that shit came back and started killing 25-year-olds.

The transmission between people on transports and trenches is how that happened. Only the strains that could infect military-aged men survived and evolved. Spanish Flu started out killing the Young and Old, when it came back, the fatality curve was a bell curve with a peak somewhere around 32 years old.

That shit could easily happen with SARS-CoV-19, and it's not August yet.

You guys really ought to wait until September or so before you get antsy over some masks.

I fully support your rebellious spirit but you should hold up on this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanis...e_of_late_1918


Ok....I am actually with you again....this is getting creepy.

This is fairly true. It also started in China the way I learned it back researching sars1....along with the bubonic and several others I never had heard of. which has been pretty much wiped clean of the goggle. Goggle not too trustworthy these days.

When they dragged my blue 3 year old out of the house into the ambulance I got me a crash course in this shit in the 1st SARS.....then the same one was hospitalized again with the swine.

Even if this c Ovid 19.....or see sheep obey does fizzle out.....they have 20 more disasters waiting....

This new cold war....will likely be the last one.



So I sure as fawk am not counting any chickens....I am very fortunate to finally be at home working on the slave list from the wife...

I just hope to survive.






I still think you should be a good chap and grab gretch.....throw it off of and overpass....and dive after it.



But since on my best days I am a giant piece of shit....I won't hold you to good chap standards.








Seriously....no need to thank me:flipoff2:
 
I live in a small town in the mountains in Pennsylvania. None of what you describe is happening here. Maybe in Pittsburgh or Philly....

Well.....I have ....had been living in a small town in pa the last year and a half.

Tunkhannock , Meshoppen, Montrose were main shopping and Springville is where I lived.

This mask nazi stuff just started here....but everywhere I shopped in pa had mask Nazis. I usually....along with I would guess 3 in 10 did not wear a mask from end of April till I left out early June.

But people always kept respectable distance.

And I wear a mask in some situations. Especially painting.
 
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Really, what 'technology' is it that is going to change? You sound like you're expecting a magic cure. There isn't one. Viral Flu is incurable. There is currently no vaccine, and one is not on the horizon. I can tell you haven't read up on the history of it, and you clearly haven't studied COVID. Have you even taken a biology class to begin understanding the esoteric language? You don't strike me as a man that will pause every 90 seconds while reading studies to look up terms. I have to do that and I'm quite well-read.

The primary 'technology' which is different from 1918 is communication. This both helps the flu spread, and can possibly help us contain it.

What makes you think people didn't have soap and plumbing? You think people were street-shitting in 1918? You really, really need to brush up on your history, you are way out of context here. Indoor WCs and sewers are common in the US in 1918, right down to small towns. People bathe often. Horses shit in the streets but they were going away rapidly due to the Model T. Streets had been cleaned up by a series of Sanitation laws in the late 19th Century (that's the 1800s, by the way). The Spanish Flu was not spread by horses or manure. Legions of street-sweepers in white clothes with rolling white bins swept up the streets every night in every city, just like you see on the cartoons.

You clearly didn't know that, and you have no clue what the 1918 world was like. In terms of the spread of Flu, 1918 is very, very close to today. Except today, with over-crowding, any Flu will spread faster.

I think you're on the wrong side of history on this. SARS-CoV-19 can actually mutate and start wiping us the fuck out.

That shit could easily happen with SARS-CoV-19, and it's not August yet.

You guys really ought to wait until September or so before you get antsy over some masks.

In both of these posts, you make the point that this flu could become a serious problem. (It's not yet) I agree with you, it could. What I don't get is the last line quoted. The masks currently used will not protect anyone. If you look on the box of masks, they say "Will not protect from Covid 19" .
 
Yes excellent distinction waterhead.


Scba and bio suit with decon Chamber level 4 are the only way to prevent a rna virus from running it's course.


If you follow the protocals explicitly.


How does that change the virtue signaling bullshit in the public square?
 
I wear a mask entering any business.. if i have to actually need something. I dont go out much these days..

Ran to Home Depot the other day for some grilling accessories, was surprised to see a few inside without masks.. their choice i figure. I dont typically see people not wearing masks..

And before anyone blasts me for being a supporter of these things, i'm a heart patient who has had bypass surgery. I'm 58.. not quiet ready to leave this place yet, or go through the hell i imagine dying alone in a hospital would be.

to add to others, i also hope you are wear a quality mask, or at least several layers of cloth, i'd have to look, but something like 4 layers of typicall cotton tshirt is supposed to be quality, as well as eye sheild
 
to add to others, i also hope you are wear a quality mask, or at least several layers of cloth, i'd have to look, but something like 4 layers of typicall cotton tshirt is supposed to be quality, as well as eye sheild

Not a quality mask, but my exposure is pretty limited. Home Depot, hydroponic shop, inperson purchase from FB etc. Morning coffee is drive through, fuel is debit.. i dont want cash back and my cash comes from safe that predates this shit.

Unfortunately i have a daughter working in local hospital in admissions, wife and another daughter in a friends daycare. That's my main concern.. although all are on limited hours and considerate of Dad.

Lots of people out there like me, some vocal some not when seeing others without. Keep in mind we are scared, and would like to see this all go away for everyone's benefit.

Thanks though, i'll look into a better mask..
 
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In both of these posts, you make the point that this flu could become a serious problem. (It's not yet) I agree with you, it could. What I don't get is the last line quoted. The masks currently used will not protect anyone. If you look on the box of masks, they say "Will not protect from Covid 19" .

They stop droplets of water and mucus though. That's the problem, not really individual virus particles.

Even if you do get dosed by droplets that make it through a mask, you are still better off because viruses grow just like any other exponential system, and take longer with a smaller dose. This gives your immune system to work.
 
Wikipedia is not a real source. Find a real source.


on the other hand https://www.livescience.com/amp/are-...us-spread.html

seems the “experts” still can’t determine if wearing a mask really helps. Same logic to me as not
putting gasoline on a fire puts it out. Technically yes but also no.

2010 called and wants its argument back.

Wikipedia is not the source: the citations are. Especially on established historical events, Wikipedia is a great place to link for general information which is irrefutable, which is exactly what I posted.

The Spanish Flu article is one of the best on the entire site and was long before you heard of the Wuhan Flu (I was probably in the first 1% of non-Scientist Westerners to hear of it).

You need to understand this: What I said about the Spanish Flu and what Wikipedia says about it is 100% accurate and irrefutable.

I was not linking to make an argument about Masks anyway, which means you didn't read my post or get the point, which means you were on autopilot like a drone.

Take a breath.

Step back.

And read the information I posted about the mutation of SARS-CoV-19. I am 100% accurate. The shit can mutate and turn into a killer. There are already indications that a new strain has now overtaken the original Wuhan strain.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-...es-global.html

Researchers from the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico and Duke University in North Carolina, partnered with the University of Sheffield's COVID-19 Genomics UK research group to analyse genome samples published on GISAID, an international resource for sharing genome sequences among researchers worldwide.https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-infectious-strain-covid-dominates-global.html
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-infectious-strain-covid-dominates-global.html

Hope that's good enough as a source for you there, Professor. :flipoff2:
 
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Wife got it the other day.

Had the 2 older kids in the local grocery store(which is usually pretty baron since the fire) lady rushes up to her, gets in her face and starts yelling about not having a mask and that the kids should have masks too.

So obviously, she's well inside the 6' and her dumbass has the mask down below her nose :rolleyes: my wife said she told her sternly "you need to back up now" and said something about being inside of 6'. The lady said "it doesn't matter, I'm protected with my mask" :lmao: she also pointed out that she was wearing it incorrectly and the lady got all flustered.

These people are mind blowing dumb.

*wear mask wrong
*think you're magically protected by a mask, even when it doesn't cover your nose
*take the stupid mask to the most serious level, but ignore the 6' rule
*go out of your way to scold people who aren't wearing magic masks

:homer:
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Good job with your targeted advertising Austin. This is at 5he bottom of the mask thread.

Do you get paid anything if I click the link without purchasing?

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Sorry, I am far to knowledgeable on the subject of mask to be swayed by the court of public opinion... I spent 20 years writing manuals on ppe and working in an industry where environmental toxins, pathogens, teratogens and multiple other things could kill you. I'm not going to wear a face covering that protects me against what, maybe 50 microns for a virus that's .14 in size, just so your placebo can make you feel better.



Odd that your expert opinion on PPE seems to have left you completely clueless on how viruses spread. It's almost like you're not a microbiologist or epidemiologist.

The virus is in droplets of water and mucus, and even a loose weave bandana offers a measure of protection.

You are not trying to filter virus particles. You are preventing water droplets from contacting your mucus membrane. :shaking:

It takes a BSL-4 positive pressure system to protect you from virus particles, yet Physicians use surgical masks as a routine way to prevent infection while operating. Hmmmm..... seems like the medical system had it figured out: you can protect yourself with masks, but if you want total control, you need a BSL-4 setup.

You didn't even consider this, which means you didn't think about it, which means you don't know what you're talking about.

You guys can hate the politics on this all that you want: 'They' are dead-on correct. Masks and social distancing vastly, vastly reduce the rate of transmission.

Both sides of the Spectrum violated this, by the way, so everyone is to blame.

I hate the masks and take mine off often, but I also live in an area with very few infections and no deaths for miles and miles. This will change after this weekend, eager to see how much worse.
 
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I think you're on the wrong side of history on this. SARS-CoV-19 can actually mutate and start wiping us the fuck out. That's exactly how the Spanish Flu happened. It was mild in the Spring, and by September that shit came back and started killing 25-year-olds.

The transmission between people on transports and trenches is how that happened. Only the strains that could infect military-aged men survived and evolved. Spanish Flu started out killing the Young and Old, when it came back, the fatality curve was a bell curve with a peak somewhere around 32 years old.

That shit could easily happen with SARS-CoV-19, and it's not August yet.

You guys really ought to wait until September or so before you get antsy over some masks.

I fully support your rebellious spirit but you should hold up on this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanis...e_of_late_1918

That's why people with the less deadly strains need to go out and give it to everyone.

Spanish flu was bad because only the WORST infected with it were removed from the front, sent to hospitals, and then transmitted it to the people who were rear logistics, and they then spread the WORST strains of it to the rest of the world.

If the young men who were infected but not critically ill had been able to spread it to the general population it would not have been the much more deadly strains that became common.
 
That's why people with the less deadly strains need to go out and give it to everyone.

Spanish flu was bad because only the WORST infected with it were removed from the front, sent to hospitals, and then transmitted it to the people who were rear logistics, and they then spread the WORST strains of it to the rest of the world.

If the young men who were infected but not critically ill had been able to spread it to the general population it would not have been the much more deadly strains that became common.

The problem is that this dogged virus hangs out in your body, so that means just because you have one strain it does not mean you can't get re-infected with another more virulent strain. It is becoming clear, though not absolutely sure, that your natural immunity is shorter with this virus than others, and extincts within months. In almost all cases, the virus never actually goes away.

That's what I'm talking about here: The window is still open on this thing turning out to be the Apocalypse. People are losing their immunity to it, it's staying in their bodies in most cases anyway, and we have people throwing infection parties.

This is all still very, very bad news. We don't know yet.

Come December I will HAPPILY admit I was a Chicken Little ninny.

Right now, I would urge caution.
 
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