Junkyard 609 axles

[Dan]

My short side is 20-5/16” custom length and the wms is 65”. There really isn’t a point in running off the shelf shafts because you will have to rework the polished area for the seal, unless you already have some badass shafts laying around like Blase.

These are still available at Dutchman last I checked, add $58 for shipping and you have a set of inner 4340 shafts at pretty much whatever length you want without having to compromise your pinion offset or wms.

Also no way I would consider using those thick ass tubes on any junkyard built 9. The ones I used from a Dana 50/60 were both .350” and I would have liked to have gone thinner like .250” that is used on a lot of 14 bolts. I’m pretty sure most or all the van axle 14 bolt ff housings are .250” wall. I’m not sure if you will have enough tube for a long side without splicing though, which is another reason to run a longer short side shaft/less pinion offset on your front axle build.

That’s a 14 bolt FF next to a Dana 50 front or e350 rear tube, both 3.5” OD. If I had enough of the thinner tube I would have used that instead of the thicker tube from the danas that I ended up using because I had it already.

 

['84 Bronco II]

Edit: is the tubing attached to the C 3.5x500 or 3x500?

It should be 3.125"x.5" like most pre-Superduty Dana 60s unless Dodge was doing something different.

 

[fl0w3n]

Chopping axle tubes at a junk yard sounds like it would suck

Absolutely, part of why I was considering some new tube lol.

There really isn’t a point in running off the shelf shafts because you will have to rework the polished area for the seal

Unless I stab the tubes within 1” ish from the spanners to use a traditional seal, you’re right I’d need to rework the seal situation. I was considering the budget seals it, but I’d still need to polish wherever the seal surface winds up I assume.

I’m pretty sure most or all the van axle 14 bolt ff housings are .250” wall. I’m not sure if you will have enough tube for a long side without splicing though, which is another reason to run a longer short side shaft/less pinion offset on your front axle build.

.250 wall was what I was thinking would be ideal, and then getting the inner OD sides machined down to fit the 9” ID of tubes. I don’t know if thinner wall would have issue with that.

It should be 3.125"x.5" like most pre-Superduty Dana 60s unless Dodge was doing something different.

Correct. Which also doesn’t help because my quick tape measure initially I read it as 3.25 which would have been perfect OD wise for this 9” center

 

[fl0w3n]

These are still available at Dutchman last I checked, add $58 for shipping and you have a set of inner 4340 shafts at pretty much whatever length you want without having to compromise your pinion offset or wms.

Good idea, I don’t care about the mismatch so that’s a good deal. Not much more than the single short side if I go new.

 

[YotaAtieToo]

If you spend $450 on dom, you may as well just spend a little more on a TG housing and make it easy.

 

[TTRAxle&FAB]

If you spend $450 on dom, you may as well just spend a little more on a TG housing and make it easy.

3.125x.250w is pretty cheap. $160 plus shipping. It's cheaper if you call and order too.

3.125 OD x .250 Wall x 2.625 ID DOM Steel Tube - ASTM A513 Type 5

**** PLEASE READ **** If you need a custom cut length please make sure you buy a piece longer than or equal to the cut. Please note the scrape piece will not be shipped. Format for custom cut is in inches 0.000 " and standard cut tolerance is: + 1/8" -0". If you need a longer length please...

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[fl0w3n]

3.125x.250w is pretty cheap. $160 plus shipping. It's cheaper if you call and order too.

3.125 OD x .250 Wall x 2.625 ID DOM Steel Tube - ASTM A513 Type 5

**** PLEASE READ **** If you need a custom cut length please make sure you buy a piece longer than or equal to the cut. Please note the scrape piece will not be shipped. Format for custom cut is in inches 0.000 " and standard cut tolerance is: + 1/8" -0". If you need a longer length please...

rivercityspecialtytubeco.com

Hmm, thanks for that.

3.25x.120 is less than $100 to retube both sides…

I know this is junkyard mentality but that might be hard to pass up.

 

[Dan]

Hmm, thanks for that.

3.25x.120 is less than $100 to retube both sides…

I know this is junkyard mentality but that might be hard to pass up.

Are you going to retube with 3.25x.120 or is that a typo? That’s a bit on the thin side, more like driveshaft tubing. What is the tube OD the donor Cs are on?

3.125x.250 wall tube has a 2.625” ID.

Factory Dana 60 seal has a 2.625” OD.

 

[fl0w3n]

Are you going to retube with 3.25x.120 or is that a typo? That’s a bit on the thin side, more like driveshaft tubing. What is the tube OD the donor Cs are on?

3.125x.250 wall tube has a 2.625” ID.

Factory Dana 60 seal has a 2.625” OD.

Yeah that’s stupid I wasn’t paying attention

If the whole ID was 2.625 without a lip to sit on, do you think the seal would have issue walking around or staying square?

I was intending to use the 3.125 C’s, but then I’ll need to solve for the 9” center being 3.25 ID.
I have an uncut D50 here if I really want those Cs instead but I feel like I can solve this without those.