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John Deere workers on strike

This tracks with the John Deere layoffs.
The AG industry is currently struggling, and that will have a large affect on the Midwest economy.

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How many farmers stopped buying new equipment due to not being able to fix it because JD doesn't want them to be able to?

Farmers are still farming same as last season their just not buying new equipment anymore because the manufacturers have pushed them away with all the new technology and costs of repairs you can no longer do yourself.

JD played a stupid game and won a stupid prize.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
How many farmers stopped buying new equipment due to not being able to fix it because JD doesn't want them to be able to?

Farmers are still farming same as last season their just not buying new equipment anymore because the manufacturers have pushed them away with all the new technology and costs of repairs you can no longer do yourself.

JD played a stupid game and won a stupid prize.
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I’m seeing that on the construction side also. If a guy fills the def tank too full on a case it will derate itself and the only way to unlock it is have the dealer come out to over ride it. So a $500-$1000 service call over nothing. It’s stupid because they have a lever sensor in the tank and if it doesn’t see the level draw down because the tank got filled up into the neck it derates.

The new tech is stupid . :mad3::mad3:
 
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Steve300xcw said:
Would that be what you would make each month or is it reduced? Still able to pull unemployment?
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I had this job that was going under, we had our FT hrs cut to PT hrs until they shut down 6 months later (April). When I applied for unemployment, we couldn't receive the full amount allowable because of the PT hrs was factored into the fiscal yr which meant shitty checks- 🤬
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
How many farmers stopped buying new equipment due to not being able to fix it because JD doesn't want them to be able to?

Farmers are still farming same as last season their just not buying new equipment anymore because the manufacturers have pushed them away with all the new technology and costs of repairs you can no longer do yourself.

JD played a stupid game and won a stupid prize.
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Kinze would not fit that mold. They are not manufacturing anything a farmer can't fix themselves.

I understand everyone's hatred for the big manufacturers and their tech, but don't be blinded by that and not see that there is an economical problem here.

I talk to farmers almost daily. Cattle farmers, grain farmers, some that do both. It's not a good time for them right now.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
How many farmers stopped buying new equipment due to not being able to fix it because JD doesn't want them to be able to?

Farmers are still farming same as last season their just not buying new equipment anymore because the manufacturers have pushed them away with all the new technology and costs of repairs you can no longer do yourself.

JD played a stupid game and won a stupid prize.
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Fact. JD quality has been shit for a while anyway. We had I think it was a 385RT on the farm that was a pile of garbage to the point that the dealer ended up giving us our money back towards a big wheel tractor instead. Main frame broke within a month, 2 transmissions and it was needing its 3rd engine (according to the techs they sent out, it was 100% symptomatic of needing injectors every time :homer:) nothing but problems with everything green built in the last 10 years. Luckily my boss sold the trucking company and farm contracts a few years ago so he had great timing. :laughing:
 
I have had to have the dealer force a regen on my 244K-II twice now.

Even holding the manual switch will not get it started. That's strictly a programming thing, absolutely no reason for it.
 
JD Mark said:
I have had to have the dealer force a regen on my 244K-II twice now.

Even holding the manual switch will not get it started. That's strictly a programming thing, absolutely no reason for it.
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We have a takeuchi skiddy that the guys use to power a wood processor in the winter. You can sit in it and run the controls or use the machine for hydraulic power and use hand controls to stand by it. They would use the external controls most of the time but you don't see the machine requesting a Regen cycle. Too many skipped regens and it locked into limp mode. $1500 and a 5 hour round trip fixed it for good. No more Regen issues. Ever. :grinpimp:
 
Tin Roof said:
Kinze would not fit that mold. They are not manufacturing anything a farmer can't fix themselves.

I understand everyone's hatred for the big manufacturers and their tech, but don't be blinded by that and not see that there is an economical problem here.

I talk to farmers almost daily. Cattle farmers, grain farmers, some that do both. It's not a good time
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Most farmers I know won't admit to anytime being a good time!
 
Grnjp92 said:
Most farmers I know won't admit to anytime being a good time!
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It does happen sometimes but it takes something stupid huge to make it happen. :laughing:


I was hauling wheat for a guy a few years ago. The spring was nuts, heavy rains every week all through late winter and spring so dry land grew like irrigated. He was pulling 75 bushel per acre of dry land. He looked me dead in the eye one day and straight said he'd never seen so much wheat in his whole fucking life. :smokin:


Another guy I was hauling for that year pulled 125 per off an irrigated pivot. He had to bring in another bank out wagon to keep up with the combine. :laughing:
 
Grnjp92 said:
Most farmers I know won't admit to anytime being a good time!
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It is tough to do. There is always something to worry about.

Hope the soil is dry enough to work in the spring.
Hope temps warm up so you can put fertilizer on and till the ground.
Hope spring rains are not too long so you can get everything planted in time.
Hope that it rains enough after you plant
Hope that it doesn't rain too much after you plant
Hope that you don't get hail, high winds, or tornado
Hope that it is dry enough to cultivate before the rows grow closed
Hope that you don't get an early frost
Hope that is stays dry to the crops dry out and you can work the field.
Hope that you get your crops out before the snow
Hope that fuel prices stay low
Hope that Propane prices stay low
Hope that nothing breaks down, especially when trying to get crops out.
Hope that the grain is dry enough you don't have to dry it.
Hope that there is not a bunch of weed seed mixed in so you can get US Grade #1
Hope that the market goes up soon
Hope they take the storage fees off at the elevator soon.
Hope you made the right decision to sell when you did.
Hope that you make enough money to do it all over again.

And that is just grain farmers. We still have all the hopes of livestock farmers included to add to that.

Grew up a farmer in a family of farmers around other farmers. You never know when you will have a good year or bad. Eternally in fear of spending money because you don't know what next year will hold.

The joy you have is for your family, Screw the rest of the world.
 
Tiha said:
It is tough to do. There is always something to worry about.

Hope the soil is dry enough to work in the spring.
Hope temps warm up so you can put fertilizer on and till the ground.
Hope spring rains are not too long so you can get everything planted in time.
Hope that it rains enough after you plant
Hope that it doesn't rain too much after you plant
Hope that you don't get hail, high winds, or tornado
Hope that it is dry enough to cultivate before the rows grow closed
Hope that you don't get an early frost
Hope that is stays dry to the crops dry out and you can work the field.
Hope that you get your crops out before the snow
Hope that fuel prices stay low
Hope that Propane prices stay low
Hope that nothing breaks down, especially when trying to get crops out.
Hope that the grain is dry enough you don't have to dry it.
Hope that there is not a bunch of weed seed mixed in so you can get US Grade #1
Hope that the market goes up soon
Hope they take the storage fees off at the elevator soon.
Hope you made the right decision to sell when you did.
Hope that you make enough money to do it all over again.

And that is just grain farmers. We still have all the hopes of livestock farmers included to add to that.

Grew up a farmer in a family of farmers around other farmers. You never know when you will have a good year or bad. Eternally in fear of spending money because you don't know what next year will hold.

The joy you have is for your family, Screw the rest of the world.
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You forgot getting blamed for high priced food when it isn't usually the farmers' fault.

And getting screwed by the seed companies because you had some of their seeds grow the next year when you didn't buy from them...or whatever bullshit they pull.

And fertilizer prices skyrocketing.
 
JD Mark said:
You forgot getting blamed for high priced food when it isn't usually the farmers' fault.

And getting screwed by the seed companies because you had some of their seeds grow the next year when you didn't buy from them...or whatever bullshit they pull.

And fertilizer prices skyrocketing.
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And the affects of politics on commodity prices. It's predominately grain farmers in this area, and they are basically stock traders watching the grain futures deciding when to contract their crop for market. Pick the wrong month and lose $2-4/bushel. Pick the right one and win. Store it too long and worry about waste and blending.
 
JD Mark said:
You forgot getting blamed for high priced food when it isn't usually the farmers' fault.

And getting screwed by the seed companies because you had some of their seeds grow the next year when you didn't buy from them...or whatever bullshit they pull.

And fertilizer prices skyrocketing.
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All that happened after I was out and my father dropped down to 80 acre hobby farm.

We didn't have guys doing even 400 acres when I was part of all that.

The seed dealer was a neighbor that was doing 300 acres and became a dealer to get his seed cheaper and often passed that along to his neighbors, when he decided to retire another neighbor became the dealer, it was not big business like it is today.

The elevators still had a lot of control over your life because of grain prices, grading, storage, drying, fertilizer, propane. Usually all came from them.

Oh sure grain prices are at $6.45 a bushel, oh but wait you didn't bring grade 1 grain to us. Ding, It was too wet or too dry, Ding, You didn't sell it fast enough and had to store it, Ding.
If price ever was $6.45 a bushel Cargil was the only people getting it. Farmers don't.

But again it was a small community where everyone knew everyone. If someone was treated differently or unfairly that person was quickly outed.
 
Anybody remember the film (farm drama, pretty weird) with Kevin Costner(?) about using last year's seeds & was getting checked out by inspectors? The farmer was cleared, though-
 
det107 said:
Anybody remember the film (farm drama, pretty weird) with Kevin Costner(?) about using last year's seeds & was getting checked out by inspectors? The farmer was cleared, though-
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Don't remember that one, I remember one where the guy was trying to get the harvesters to do his wheat first but his wheat wasn't ready and basically pissed off everyone in town over it.

I suppose that and the seed problems and lots of other drama happen. Never happened in my little corner of Iowa.

Biggest drama I can remember is the dentist in town refused to pay for herbicide one year. The weeds in his beans were so bad he was paying $20 an hour for people to walk them.
This was around 1985 ish.
Anyway he never got anyone to do it so the county came in and plowed everything under 50ft in from the fence lines.
 
Steve300xcw said:
hows that work?
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You wanna get pissed off look up monsanto seed lawsuit. They will sue you for growing their product without permission and win in court if its windy when your neighbor is planting and some seed blows onto your property and you don't kill it before germination. It's a HUGE racket all brought to you by big pharma who owns the majority of seed companies.
 
DWT said:
You wanna get pissed off look up monsanto seed lawsuit. They will sue you for growing their product without permission and win in court if its windy when your neighbor is planting and some seed blows onto your property and you don't kill it before germination. It's a HUGE racket all brought to you by big pharma who owns the majority of seed companies.
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How are they figuring out who’s growing their shit by accident without a ton of labor invested?
 
Steve300xcw said:
hows that work?
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www.southernexposure.com

Southern Exposure Seed Exchange, Saving the Past for the Future

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www.the-kingfisher.org

Monsanto’s history of lawsuits: implications for farmers and biotech companies

Monsanto has long targeted individual farmers and small companies for lawsuits concerning the misuse of its patented seeds. Although detrimental to farmer’s freedom of choice and finances regarding disputes with the GM giant, strict seed patents are also important for safeguarding the global...
www.the-kingfisher.org www.the-kingfisher.org
 
Not to defend Monsanto, but in at least one of the lawsuits the farmer purposely used their seeds without permission for several years, knowing full well what he was doing violated their policies. If the seed company was a mom n pop shop instead of a global powerhouse we'd have a different view on if the farmer was right or wrong.
 
Tin Roof said:
Not to defend Monsanto, but in at least one of the lawsuits the farmer purposely used their seeds without permission for several years, knowing full well what he was doing violated their policies. If the seed company was a mom n pop shop instead of a global powerhouse we'd have a different view on if the farmer was right or wrong.
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God bless him!
 
Tin Roof said:
Not to defend Monsanto, but in at least one of the lawsuits the farmer purposely used their seeds without permission for several years, knowing full well what he was doing violated their policies. If the seed company was a mom n pop shop instead of a global powerhouse we'd have a different view on if the farmer was right or wrong.
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Problem is, even in a situation like this, the guy bought his seed once. Then uses seed from the corn HE GREW to plant the next year.

Monsanto is just butthurt they were missing out on royalties from their GMO patent. And that's a whole 'nother issue.
 
Monsanto, etc is no different than the .gov...pay them their fee and you can do whatever you want.

Don't pay them and there's hell to pay.
 
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