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Thanks IowaGPT!(BTW I farmed it out to ChatGPT, I'm feeling pretty tired today and might be getting sick. I skimmed it and its a bit hollow and superficial but none of y'all gonna make it this far anyway)
Pretty much, that and a worldwide flood/violent plate tectonics/volcanos etc would probably be hard to replicate for data purposes. At the end of the day like you say, I take it on faith and am ok with not know for sure.
That and evolution, aliens, and the govt is here to help
I was gunna make a TLDR joke too/snip/
In addition to the symbolic interpretation of the 6,000-year-old Earth concept, we can consider the idea that, regardless of its actual age, the Earth manifests to us as if it were billions of years old. This concept aligns with scientific discovery and the reliable knowledge we have gained about the Earth's history through various disciplines, such as geology, astronomy, and biology.
From this perspective, the Earth's age becomes less about a specific number of years and more about the processes and phenomena that have shaped its history. The geological record, for example, provides clear evidence of processes that span millions and even billions of years, such as the formation of mountains, the erosion of landscapes, and the evolution of life forms.
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TL;DR
It doesn't matter how old it is in reality.
(BTW I farmed it out to ChatGPT, I'm feeling pretty tired today and might be getting sick. I skimmed it and its a bit hollow and superficial but none of y'all gonna make it this far anyway
I dont want to believe in some bitch-ass god who can’t create the universe in a week
I think the point is, regardless of the age of the world in time as we know it, the theory that the world is billions of years old is something that we can make actionable hypotheses that are proven correct most of the time. It may not be “true“ but it’s true enough Doesn’t make any difference to us as humans whether the earth is billions of years old or God just made it appear that way?Pretty much, that and a worldwide flood/violent plate tectonics/volcanos etc would probably be hard to replicate for data purposes. At the end of the day like you say, I take it on faith and am ok with not know for sure.
That and evolution, aliens, and the govt is here to help
I don’t believe the Bible has all the worlds answers, just the important ones and the model for how we should live and treat our world and others. It’s just a quick history on the origins of the world and the story of God’s chosen (yet very much human and fallible) bloodline that brought us a savior through Jesus. It doesn’t cover lots of stuff or other ancient civilizations in depth and thats ok cause that’s not its point.
I was gunna make a TLDR joke too
totally reads like (a godless) AI though, written by people vain enough to think that they know it all with statements like “clear evidence” and “aligns with science”
It may appear as if the world is billions of years old, but if Oroville taught us anything it is erosion can happen fast as fuck boi. I nerd out a lot on geography and Ive never read a convincing argument that can disprove the global flood. I just mention that cause it’s another topic people try to minimize, call it local etc…
God may have spent ages creating the world, but that being the default assumption puts Him in a box we feel like we as mere humans can better rationalize opposed to one infinitely powerful. I dont want to believe in some bitch-ass god who can’t create the universe in a week
Age of earth? Nah I don’t feel it matters in the grand scheme of things. Though like said:
You mention the story of the global flood as a impossible factual event but your basing the word translated to "global", probably meant "world" as the "teller" of the story knew it. Which back then with travel what it was to many people in that area, the "world" was probably a few hundred square miles at best. Taking any of those stories literally especially when trying prove or disprove anything is foolish.Pretty much, that and a worldwide flood/violent plate tectonics/volcanos etc would probably be hard to replicate for data purposes. At the end of the day like you say, I take it on faith and am ok with not know for sure.
That and evolution, aliens, and the govt is here to help
I don’t believe the Bible has all the worlds answers, just the important ones and the model for how we should live and treat our world and others. It’s just a quick history on the origins of the world and the story of God’s chosen (yet very much human and fallible) bloodline that brought us a savior through Jesus. It doesn’t cover lots of stuff or other ancient civilizations in depth and thats ok cause that’s not its point.
I was gunna make a TLDR joke too
totally reads like (a godless) AI though, written by people vain enough to think that they know it all with statements like “clear evidence” and “aligns with science”
It may appear as if the world is billions of years old, but if Oroville taught us anything it is erosion can happen fast as fuck boi. I nerd out a lot on geography and Ive never read a convincing argument that can disprove the global flood. I just mention that cause it’s another topic people try to minimize, call it local etc…
God may have spent ages creating the world, but that being the default assumption puts Him in a box we feel like we as mere humans can better rationalize opposed to one infinitely powerful. I dont want to believe in some bitch-ass god who can’t create the universe in a week
Yes, I am a Christian
I see more evidence for a worldwide flood personally
Yes, I am a Christian
Divine inspiration > “education”. The translations today match up to the dead sea scrolls to like 97% or so? That’s astounding.
The Old Testament is part of the Bible, so I do believe it.
The difference I see it is God saving mankind vs us saving ourselves (quran, other “good deeds based religions). Judaism, the Old Testament, show us how we’re imperfect and need a savior to save us. They looked towards Jesus. The New Testament tells how Jesus was that savior by living the perfect life that we couldn’t, taking the punishment that we deserved. Its not based on anything we did, only what God has done for us.
I’m not a Jew cause I cant trace my lineage back to Israel, but if I could, I would say I was a Messianic Jew. That would be a Jew that believes Jesus was that savior instead of believing the “Messiah” has yet to come. But since I’m a “gentile” (non israeli) that makes me a Christian. Christian just means follower of Christ i.e. Jesus. Old Testament Judaism does die with Jesus though, since he was the ultimate sacrifice, there is no need for a human high priest, no need for us making sacrifices to atone for sins, etc…idk why other Christians would get mad at that personally, but we’re all imperfect (hence the whole Jesus thing)
He (Jesus) fulfilled prophecies written over thousands of years, by hella different dudes, witnessed by hella different dudes, all this from multiple cultures (though primarily Jews), no contradictions, not proven historically false, a holy text that has been preserved so amazingly over time, I already said it takes faith to believe what I do, but I happen to believe it makes a pretty good case for itself.
That’s why I believe God made the universe in 6 days as a mature entity, just as he made the first man a man, woman a woman, not babies. I think he made mankind pretty awesome and we are capable of a ton, a ton of good and a ton of bad, especially through divine guidance (or demonic). I think that pretty well explains a lot personally. Ymmv, but there’s more than meets the eye
Good luck. Other dude is annoying as shit. I made it about 20 min in before I had to shut it off.
Yes, modern Judaism doesn’t believe that Jesus was the Messiah vs Messianic Jews that do. Israel is the nation/people that came from this dude Jacob, who God renamed Israel. The current nation occupies some of its historical boundaries. Some people who aren’t Jews live there, like most modern countries. Other peoples outside that one dude’s lineage aren’t Jews.
I will not shut it off. I'm a Brogan and will literally listen to him talk to a brick.
Same, generally, but there's some people I just can't listen to talk. They itch the autism, and not in the fun way.
Radio active decay is unarguable science and fact. You and I can argue about it but come the end of day, or last call we will both have to acknowledge that the earth is far older than 6,000 or 6 million years old. Beliefs are just that. Kneel and bow to Mecca
JK I don’t believe you.
Jesus's dad made everything pre-old. Your science based chemical time measurement is accurate, the Trex is 65mil years old... its just that God pre-made it 64.98 million years ago then stuck it in the ground when he built earth in 4000 b.c. and no we don't know why... you're going to have to ask him when you get to heaven. Assuming you're saved. Just curious, have you asked Jesus to be your personal lord and savior? Because if you haven't... you're kind of going to burn in lava for eternity. Just saying. Might wanna turn your life over to Christ if you're anti-lava.Radio active decay is unarguable science and fact. You and I can argue about it but come the end of day, or last call we will both have to acknowledge that the earth is far older than 6,000 or 6 million years old. Beliefs are just that. Kneel and bow to Mecca
It lists the genealogy leading to Jesus from the first man Adam, with ages. So people have connected the dots to come up with roughly 4000 years to Jesus and then about 2024 years from then to now.
Fear is such a great motivator... if you are retarded.
I know you’re joking, but the trex fossils woulda been made during the flood, not at the earth’s conception.
Yes, and for a while after till the ice age did the rest of them in, that whole cold blooded thing and all. The post flood world wasn’t conducive to gigantic reptiles any more, just like the post ice age world isn’t conducive to megafauna like mammoths and short faced bears. Hence why most cultures have legends of dragons.
Dude, God has fast motion, slow motion all of it. He can do anything. He is like Spicoli's dads tool box.I know you’re joking, but the trex fossils woulda been made during the flood, not at the earth’s conception.
“Science based chemical time measurements” can never be proven correct cause no baseline measurements were taken at the beginning, but they have been proven incorrect on many occasions with fresh lava rocks that we saw molten still dating way older than they are…But hey, trust the science (tm) amirite? Cause THIS science is perfect, climate change is real, the world is billions of years old and we all evolved from sea goo (or came from aliens, but DEFINITELY not some sky daddy)
And for the Fed above, fossils are found in way more places than Wyoming and Mongolia
While I agree God CAN do anything, that doesn’t mean He does. Being outside of time is a tough concept to wrestle with for sure.
