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Purevil71 said:
Sooo...if a big ass yacht washes up into your yard, are you allowed to keep it?
Asking for me...
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Posession is 9/10s of the law.

There are those guys that go over to the UAE and snap up super cars that people have defaulted on their loans.

Over there if you miss a payment you go to federal pound me in the ass penitentiary. So most folks just skip town.
 
Purevil71 said:
Sooo...if a big ass yacht washes up into your yard, are you allowed to keep it?
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Nope. Being that it's on land, it's essentially the same as if someone leaves their Porsche parked in your yard after a bender. You can have it removed, but it doesn't become yours. Someone, somewhere, still holds title to it. If it's not the owner, it's the bank. Or the insurance company.

Even if it was floating, there's different rules for what's considered derelict.

Source: I tried to get rights to a boat during hurricane Michael recovery.
 
WaterH said:
This is the kind of yacht I’m looking for. Wonder if it’s for sale.

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All joking aside there will be plenty for sale from the insurance companies, make those connections now.
 
KarlVP said:
Question for the rich folks. You see all these videos of boats parked on the shore. Why wouldn't you take your $250K+ yacht somewhere else? I know there isn't shit you can do with your house except board it up, but that boat is mobile. Move it elsewhere.
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Real answer, Owning a 250k boat isn’t - send someone to go get it money. A yacht is any boat over 26’
 
KarlVP said:
Question for the rich folks. You see all these videos of boats parked on the shore. Why wouldn't you take your $250K+ yacht somewhere else? I know there isn't shit you can do with your house except board it up, but that boat is mobile. Move it elsewhere.
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$250k is a nice Albury Brothers center console. That's not viking money.
 
Total mess. Multiple trees down. Going to need so much clean up. My carport that I stood back up after Ian I don't think I can stand up again. My pole barn is gone. Had to stand up my power pole, a big branch fell on the wire. But the wind was coming from a fairly ideal direction both times for my 70s "single wide" and my rotted out shop.
One of the downed trees roots was under our been hives, luckily the roots slipped out from under them with out tossing the boxes everywhere. They were opened and angled though.
First time I've been in the eye. Instant silence then a instant 180 in the wind as the shit hits the fan again.
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Still no service or power. At a Taco Bell parking lot that has a line wrapped around the building twice
 
WaterH said:
Got to move a long way sometimes. I don’t own one yet, but I could see the storm is headed for my yacht and I take it 50 miles east and then the storm tracks east.

This might really sound stupid, but when I was flying around Luweseanna after Katrina, I saw lots of yachts floating around in good condition. Lots of others tied to a dock distroyed. Seems like the boats arnt wrecked by the storm, but what they float into. I’m thinking just tie it to a good solid center post and let it pivot with the wind. Maybe just take it out in the bay and keep it pointed in the wind. (Not sure if motors can keep up with 100+ winds) Maybe drop anchor and help with the motors.
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For once you are correct. That idea does sound incredibly stupid. There is the right way to do something, then there is making a mistake or two, then there is being so head shaking wrong it is just mind baffling. Do you even physics Bro?

You were / are a chopper driver right?
Engine failure, rotor still turning, you probably know your auto rotate SOP’s out of your head. In the face of engine failure have you ever needed to invent a special new WaterH alternative to the accepted practice.

So why try this in maritime? There are accepted procedures for evacuating from or preparing in place for a storm. Tying off to a pole is not one of them.


KarlVP said:
Posession is 9/10s of the law.

There are those guys that go over to the UAE and snap up super cars that people have defaulted on their loans.

Over there if you miss a payment you go to federal pound me in the ass penitentiary. So most folks just skip town.
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Could not possibly be more wrong. And were you not some semen swabbie at some point? Do you understand maritime?

Now had you said anything about salvage rights you may have sounded like you knew something
Bacchus said:
Nope. Being that it's on land, it's essentially the same as if someone leaves their Porsche parked in your yard after a bender. You can have it removed, but it doesn't become yours. Someone, somewhere, still holds title to it. If it's not the owner, it's the bank. Or the insurance company.

Even if it was floating, there's different rules for what's considered derelict.

Source: I tried to get rights to a boat during hurricane Michael recovery.
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Bingo. Thank you for contributing to the thread with actual knowledge not just the first thing that came into your mind or something UAE something exotic car something

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XtremeJ said:
For once you are correct. That idea does sound incredibly stupid. There is the right way to do something, then there is making a mistake or two, then there is being so head shaking wrong it is just mind baffling. Do you even physics Bro?

You were / are a chopper driver right?
Engine failure, rotor still turning, you probably know your auto rotate SOP’s out of your head. In the face of engine failure have you ever needed to invent a special new WaterH alternative to the accepted practice.

So why try this in maritime? There are accepted procedures for evacuating from or preparing in place for a storm. Tying off to a pole is not one of them.



Could not possibly be more wrong. And were you not some semen swabbie at some point? Do you understand maritime?

Now had you said anything about salvage rights you may have sounded like you knew something

Bingo. Thank you for contributing to the thread with actual knowledge not just the first thing that came into your mind or something UAE something exotic car something

:lmao:
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It's a joke, not a dick. Don't take it so hard. :flipoff2:
 
Overall it looks like another day in FL... Some damage and the roofers will be busy for a few weeks but overall a lot better than predicted. They will rebuild. I think NC needs the help a lot more still.
 
XtremeJ said:
You were / are a chopper driver right?
Engine failure, rotor still turning, you probably know your auto rotate SOP’s out of your head. In the face of engine failure have you ever needed to invent a special new WaterH alternative to the accepted practice.
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That shit's funny :flipoff2:
 
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Looks like you did ok. My in-laws that are close to you all got through it ok. You got some big trees, so it could have been worse. Your vehicles all good? Are the roads all open? I still can’t get my brothers or a good friend on the phone down there. They were south and north of the storm eye. So I’m thinking the only way they got hurt is tornado. If I don’t get them soon, I’m going to have to head down there. Did you see any tornados? How are you on here? Starlink?

I HATE PONIES said:
No. That one is a power boat.

The boat in the top right is for sail.:lmao:
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Pretty good, lol.
 
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SEE: Ron DeSantis Drops a Reporter for Leading Question About Hurricane Milton

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SEE: Ron DeSantis Drops a Reporter for Leading Question About Hurricane Milton​


By Bonchie | 4:45 PM on October 10, 2024
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Ron DeSantis never misses, and his response to Hurricane Milton has set another standard. After pre-staging crews to work around the clock, the recovery from the massive storm is well underway. Some in the press are still looking for controversy, though.


On Thursday, one reporter tried to blame Milton and the tornados it spawned on "global warming." What followed was a masterclass in both knowledge and how to use it to push back on a narrative.

Truly, this is a joy to watch. Take it in because we don't get many politicians on the right who can articulate a point like this.

ALSO SEE: Ron DeSantis Gives 'Into-My-Veins' Response to Concerns About FEMA in Florida


REPORTER: Is that due to global warming?
DESANTIS: Tornadoes?
REPORTER: Is the increase in tornados [caused by] global warming?
DESANTIS: I think you can back and find tornadoes for all of human history, for sure, and especially, you know, Florida, how does this storm rate in the history of storms? I think it hit with a barometric pressure of (looks at the man behind him), what was it? About 950 millibars when it hit?
Which, I think if you go back to 1851, there's probably been 27 hurricanes that have had lower, the lower the barometric pressure, the stronger it is. I think there have been about 27 hurricanes that have had lower barometric pressure on landfall than Milton did, and of those, 17 occurred, I think, prior to 1960, and the most powerful hurricane on record since the 1850s in the State of Florida occurred in the 1930s, the Labor Day hurricane. Barometric pressure on that was 892 millibars.
It totally wiped out the Keys. We've never seen anything like it, and that remains head and shoulders above any powerful hurricane in the State of Florida. The most deadly hurricane we've ever had was in 1928, the Okeechobee hurricane. Killed over 4,000 people. Fortunately, we aren't going to have anything close to that on this hurricane, but even ones like Ian, it wasn't anything close to that. Yeah, I just think people should put this in perspective. They try to take different things that happen with tropical weather and act like it's something. There's nothing new under the sun. This is something that the state has dealt with for its entire history, and it's something that we'll continue to deal with.
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If you pay attention to DeSantis as a politician, his biggest strength is that he's always ready with a response no matter the topic. When he was asked about Kamala Harris attacking him for supposedly not taking her phone calls before Milton made landfall, the governor quickly pointed out that she's never once attempted to contact him during any other storm in the prior four years. He's never left dumbfounded or talking in circles.

It's more than that, though. When he answers a question, it's as if he's spent hours studying whatever topic is presented to him. I have to assume he doesn't have that much extra time on his hands and that his knowledge is just that extensive.

DeSantis would go on to bring up another key part of this discussion. Have hurricanes gotten more expensive despite being astronomically less deadly events? Sure, but that's not because of global warming causing them to be bigger and stronger than past hurricanes. It's because as the population has increased, the number of people and the amount of valuable property in the way of a storm is naturally going to increase. Hysteria need not apply. It's just simply math. More people equals more property which equals more costly damage.

Still, another reporter pushed the issue, suggesting Milton developing so quickly was unprecedented. Once again, DeSantis was ready.



REPORTER: In your history, sir, how many storms form as rapidly as they have between Helena [sic] and Milton?
DESANTIS: I think most people remember 2004 where it seemed like we had them every other week in 2004. Then there's also time period. From 2006-16, we had no hurricanes at all in Florida. There's also been times where we had a lot. In the 1940s, we were getting hit a lot. Now, more recently, we've had a spate for more. That's just kind of the nature of it, but this really does, it has a lot of similarities to 2004 in terms of the season.
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That kind of historical context is sorely needed in these conversations. Whatever role "climate change" may or may not play in hurricanes, nothing here is unprecedented. Florida has been hit by multiple storms in a short window, many times throughout its history. That doesn't mean there's any apocalyptic weather event suddenly occurring. It just means the cycle is coming back around.

Frankly, this kind of stuff is insulting to those suffering on the ground. These storms aren't a vehicle for someone to push their politics. Even if one believes human beings are causing hurricanes to somehow be stronger, what exactly is the solution to that? I can guarantee you it's not some treaty signed in Paris or false promises from the Chinese, so what's the point of even obsessing over it and turning every conversation in that direction? Like it or not, the industrial age is here to stay, and adaptation is, by far, the most viable solution to whatever issues humanity faces.
 
XtremeJ said:
You were / are a chopper driver right?
Engine failure, rotor still turning, you probably know your auto rotate SOP’s out of your head. In the face of engine failure have you ever needed to invent a special new WaterH alternative to the accepted practice.
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This reminds me of a story I have. It’s not really for this thread, more suited to my other thread.

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Day in life of helicopter instructor

So I’m giving my student a break while I’m flying back to the airport. I’m explaining what I want him to do when we get back there. We our going to do a “governor on, autorotation”. Instead of turning the governor off and rolling the throttle off and lowering collective, we are simply going to...
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I will get it written up shortly.
 
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