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MuntCuffin said:
They finally found his social media. And he was spouting progressive drivel on gab.

There is the same username on Facebook, twatter, and Instagram...I can't see them since I don't have an account.
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have not seen any of that yet
 
Yota Up said:
Post it, or copy paste it.
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It appears epicmicrowave was his username of choice. On gab.

I can't look at it, no account. It appears that handle exists on Facebook, insta, and twitter....but again, I can't look at them since no account.

Gab did receive an "emergency disclosure request" from the fbi regarding that username.
 
Here's an art-tickle for the surch impaired:

Social media posts of Trump shooter are 'revealed' by website's CEO

The CEO of the social networking website Gab has revealed posts that he claims may have been written by Donald Trump's would-be assassin Thomas Crooks.

Andrew Torba said on Wednesday that an unnamed law enforcement agency informed him that Crooks may have posted pro-Biden messages on Gab, a platform known for its alt-right users and conspiratorial content.

The @epicmicrowave account, which Torba has been unable to confirm belongs to Crooks, was last active on the site in 2021.

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'As far as we are aware, the account did not use the site to send any direct messages,' Torba said.

'He posted on the site nine (9) times total... While the account made very few posts on the site, the majority of them were in support of President Biden.

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The CEO of the social networking website Gab has revealed posts that he claims may have been written by Donald Trump 's would-be assassin Thomas Crooks
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'A number of posts in particular expressed support for President Biden's COVID lockdowns, border policies and executive orders.'

Torba also shared images of the posts he claimed were written by Crooks.

In a post from February 2021 the poster replies to an electoral projection with: 'Didn’t you also think Biden would lose in a landslide yeah I would not be very confident in your election predictions.'

In another post, the Gab user defended Biden's border policies saying they don't incentivize human trafficking and linked to a study that compared crime by undocumented migrants with those of legal migrants and American citizens in Texas.

The poster wrote: 'Biden executive orders don’t incentivize human trafficking as human traffickers aren’t interested in citizenships, likewise the majority of illegal immigrants are not criminals and in fact some studies (such as the one linked below) show lower rates of crime committed by these individuals.'

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Gab CEO Andrew Torba shared images of the posts he claimed were written by Crooks
In one post from February 2021, the writer seemed to support COVID lockdown policies, writing: 'The reason all the deaths are down is because you are stuck in your house.'

Torba claimed he had received 'an emergency disclosure request from a law enforcement agency' and was revealing the posts 'at significant personal and business risk.'

'If the past is any guide, defying the D.C. consensus by publishing the first definitive evidence that the shooter was a Biden supporter - something Democrats and their media allies have tried to cover up and deny at every turn - has a high probability of resulting in significant political and media backlash,' Torba wrote.

'In the past, we have been the target of politically motivated inquiries from both the House Oversight Committee and the Joint Committee on the January 6th Attacks, both of which sought to interfere with our mission of protecting free speech online.'

DailyMail.com has not been able to corroborate Torba's claims and authorities have not revealed a motive for Crook's attack nor his political affiliation.

Investigators have found no threatening comments on social media accounts or ideological positions that could help explain what led him to target Trump

The Anti-Defamation League has said Gab is a 'haven for hate and disinformation.'

According to the ADL: 'Torba himself espouses much of the same hateful and extremist rhetoric that his platform is known for.'

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Andrew Torba said on Wednesday that an unnamed law enforcement agency informed him that Crooks may have posted pro Biden messages on Gab, a platform known for its popularity with alt-right users and conspiratorial content
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The Anti-Defamation League has said Gab is a 'haven for hate and disinformation
'Let me get my shoes!' Trump asks Secret Service agents


The FBI is investigating the shooting by Crooks at a Trump rally as an act of domestic terrorism.

The investigation has thrust the bureau into a political maelstrom months before the presidential election.

Lawmakers and the public are pressing for details about what may have motivated Crooks in the most serious attempt to assassinate a president or presidential candidate since President Ronald Reagan was shot in 1981.

The agency has built out a detailed timeline of Crooks’ movements and online activity, but the precise motive — or why Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, was singled out — remains elusive, Wray said.

The FBI’s assessment continues to be that Crooks, who was killed by a Secret Service counter sniper, acted alone.

On Tuesday, Kimberly Cheatle resigned as the agency’s director amid mounting questions over her the colossal security failures at the rally.

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The FBI is investigating the shooting by Crooks at a Trump rally as an act of domestic terrorism
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Members of the crowd in Butler, Pennsylvania rushed to his aid following the shooting
Cheatle took responsibility for the catastrophic lapses after she was lambasted by Republicans and Democrats alike when she appeared before Congress on Monday.

The security chief had faced mounting questions over why an agent was not stationed on the roof from where Crooks opened fire on the former president, and why Trump was allowed to take the stage even when a threat was detected.

Crooks had been identified as a suspicious person hours before the shooting took place.

Wray said Crooks used mechanical equipment on the ground and vertical piping, to hoist himself up onto the roof of a squat manufacturing building that was within 135 meters (157 yards) of the stage.

He fired eight shots from an AR-style rifle before he was killed.

The Warren Commission report that analyzed the Kennedy assassination assessed that Kennedy had been shot through the neck at a range of 174.9 feet to 190.8 feet.
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WTF is Gab? I find it massively unlikely if not impossible that this kid didn’t have a presence on Facebook, Twitter (X), instagram, Reddit, ticktock, etc. there’s no way in hell a kid that age in this day in age was tall over social media and on the big name ones at that. Instead they find some post history on some obscure social media service most people have never heard about? Please. This absolutely reeks of a coverup.
 
92 Green YJ said:
WTF is Gab? I find it massively unlikely if not impossible that this kid didn’t have a presence on Facebook, Twitter (X), instagram, Reddit, ticktock, etc. there’s no way in hell a kid that age in this day in age was tall over social media and on the big name ones at that. Instead they find some post history on some obscure social media service most people have never heard about? Please. This absolutely reeks of a coverup.
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He had gab because he was a liberal that wanted to argue with conservatives.

Gab is a conservative social media site. Came to prominence after Facebook and Twitter started banning anyone that didn't echo the progressive narrative.


The kid definitely had a reddit account.
 
92 Green YJ said:
WTF is Gab? I find it massively unlikely if not impossible that this kid didn’t have a presence on Facebook, Twitter (X), instagram, Reddit, ticktock, etc. there’s no way in hell a kid that age in this day in age was tall over social media and on the big name ones at that. Instead they find some post history on some obscure social media service most people have never heard about? Please. This absolutely reeks of a coverup.
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I'd never heard of it either

Gab, a platform known for its popularity with alt-right users and conspiratorial content
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:laughing:
 
MuntCuffin said:
He had gab because he was a liberal that wanted to argue with conservatives.

Gab is a conservative social media site. Came to prominence after Facebook and Twitter started banning anyone that didn't echo the progressive narrative.


The kid definitely had a reddit account.
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Screwy gone wrong.
 
They keep pretending it wasn't Yearick. Yet no-one can show us where Yearick is if he wasn't shot on the roof.

Some think there were three dressed the same that day to cause confusion.
 
Something that bothers me about all the video of the shooting is the audio. I dont think it is intentional or delibertae but the AR-15 "pattern" rifle and 5.56 are barely audible as little Call of Duty Click-Clicks. My opinion is that minimizes the event in some fashion, trivializes it to gaming fun noise. Gun retorts are loud, all of them. 5.56 or .223 is real fucking loud. It is a given that the oreintation of the source and the receiving end are not optimal for noise but gunshots are stil loud. Down range, in front of the shooter is real loud. Two sources of noise are at about 90 deg angles to each other, one of those, either the nerd or the LEO was blasting at a video source.

I recall the first time I heard an AR with 5.56 and it surprised me how loud it was. I have been in front of same at 600 yards in a target pit and you need hearing protection.
 
Splib said:
I recall the first time I heard an AR with 5.56 and it surprised me how loud it was. I have been in front of same at 600 yards in a target pit and you need hearing protection.
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No. You. Don't.

In basic training there is a range day where you spend time in a pit below a target; if I remember correctly, it's only 100, maybe 150 yards away. It's definitely nowhere near 600 as the "long distance" targets were only 300.

I'm pretty sure we were not required to wear hearing protection in the pit, as part of the training was to experience what bullets sounded like going over your head. Bullets may sound like pissed off bees flying over your head, but they're not loud enough to warrant hearing protection. And, yea, you could hear the rifles' reports, but they were nowhere near loud enough for hearing protection. The loudest noise in the pit (besides PVT Murphy's farts) were when the bullets hit the targets.
 
Splib said:
Something that bothers me about all the video of the shooting is the audio. I dont think it is intentional or delibertae but the AR-15 "pattern" rifle and 5.56 are barely audible as little Call of Duty Click-Clicks. My opinion is that minimizes the event in some fashion, trivializes it to gaming fun noise. Gun retorts are loud, all of them. 5.56 or .223 is real fucking loud. It is a given that the oreintation of the source and the receiving end are not optimal for noise but gunshots are stil loud. Down range, in front of the shooter is real loud. Two sources of noise are at about 90 deg angles to each other, one of those, either the nerd or the LEO was blasting at a video source.

I recall the first time I heard an AR with 5.56 and it surprised me how loud it was. I have been in front of same at 600 yards in a target pit and you need hearing protection.
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They’re not loud out here.

I listen to about 500-2,000 rounds each weekend at my house. They’re barely audible even though the sound travels.

After the sound hits full trees, buildings, etc. it quiets it down a lot. Everything in front of that rifle on the roof would have soaked that up, especially 45,000 humans in bleachers.
 
Splib said:
Something that bothers me about all the video of the shooting is the audio. I dont think it is intentional or delibertae but the AR-15 "pattern" rifle and 5.56 are barely audible as little Call of Duty Click-Clicks. My opinion is that minimizes the event in some fashion, trivializes it to gaming fun noise. Gun retorts are loud, all of them. 5.56 or .223 is real fucking loud. It is a given that the oreintation of the source and the receiving end are not optimal for noise but gunshots are stil loud. Down range, in front of the shooter is real loud. Two sources of noise are at about 90 deg angles to each other, one of those, either the nerd or the LEO was blasting at a video source.

I recall the first time I heard an AR with 5.56 and it surprised me how loud it was. I have been in front of same at 600 yards in a target pit and you need hearing protection.
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I did some SPL suppressor testing with a local guy, and using my calibrated microphone and software that I use for calibrating and tuning PA systems, we couldn't get accurate readings, due to the initial impluse which is in microseconds and decays rapidly after, ie; we'd get a reading of maybe 130db, when we knew from the mfg's data that it should be in the low 140's, my software couldn't process the data fast enough as it was designed for more continuous sound levels. That's why they use specialty test gear for the SPL ratings, from companies like Gen Rad or Cirrus Research. I think gunshots are never accurately represented in video recordings, especially phone recordings.

And :laughing: at your need for hearing protection at 600 yards. What you :smokin:
 
Saw an interview with the local swat team and they said they had zero instruction or communication with the SS until after the shooting.

Failure of communication: Local SWAT team details account of Trump rally assassination attempt​

"I believe our team did everything humanly possible that day."
BySasha Pezenik, Jack Feeley, and Josh Margolin
July 28, 2024, 4:01 AM




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Local SWAT team details account of Trump rally assassination attempt
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The local SWAT team assigned to help protect former President Donald Trump on July 13 had not had any contact with the Secret Service agents in charge of security before a would-be assassin opened fire, those officers told ABC News.
It was a critical part of the planning and communications failures that ended with a gunman killing one man, critically injuring two more and wounding Trump as he delivered a speech just days before accepting the Republican presidential nomination.
"We were supposed to get a face-to-face briefing with the Secret Service members whenever they arrived, and that never happened," said Jason Woods, lead sharpshooter on the SWAT team in Beaver County, Pennsylvania.
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Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump is rushed offstage by U.S. Secret Se...Show more
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"So I think that was probably a pivotal point, where I started thinking things were wrong because it never happened," Woods said. "We had no communication."
In their first public comments since the assassination attempt, the SWAT team on the ground that day and their supervisors spoke exclusively with ABC News Senior Investigative Correspondent Aaron Katersky. It is the first time any key law enforcement personnel on-site July 13 have offered first-hand accounts of what occurred.

MORE: FBI says bullet struck Trump's ear during assassination attempt​




They explained that they did what they could to try to thwart the attack but now have to live with the failure.
The episode last week led to the resignation of Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle. And, in the wake of the assassination attempt, a series of law-enforcement, internal and congressional probes have been announced – with communications and coordination a key focus of investigators' attention.
The Secret Service, whose on-site team was supplemented as usual by local, county and state law-enforcement agencies, was ultimately responsible for security at the event.
Secret Service spokesman Anthony Guglielmi declined to respond directly to the comments from Woods and his colleagues. He said the agency "is committed to better understanding what happened before, during, and after the assassination attempt of former President Trump to ensure that never happens again. That includes complete cooperation with Congress, the FBI and other relevant investigations."
Woods told ABC News he would have expected to have seen more coordination with the Secret Service and to have had greater communication between their team on the ground that day and the agents with Trump's detail. The first communication between their group and the Secret Service agents on the scene that day, he said, was "not until after the shooting. By then, he said, "it was too late."

MORE: Secret Service spotted Trump rally shooter on roof 20 minutes before gunfire erupted​




Woods and the rest of the Beaver County sniper team were in position by mid-morning July 13, hours before Trump was set to take the stage at the Butler Farm Show grounds, outside Pittsburgh. The site is studded by a complex of warehouses, some clustered just outside the position where metal detectors were set up that day.
Gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, sparked suspicion among the Beaver County SWAT team but was still able to evade law enforcement and take position on the roof of the very building where county snipers had been posted. Though their sniper had taken pictures of Crooks and had called into Command about the suspicious presence -- within an hour Crooks opened fire on the former president less than 200 yards from the stage.
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Members of the Beaver County, Pennsylvania, SWAT team assigned to help protect former President Donald Trump on July 13, 2024, speak with ABC News’ Aaron Katersky.
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Beaver County Chief Detective Patrick Young, who runs the Emergency Services Unit and SWAT team, said collaboration is key when lives are on the line.
"I believe our team did everything humanly possible that day," Young said. "We talk a lot on SWAT that we as individuals mean nothing until we come together as a team."
Watch: ABC News' exclusive first interview with the local SWAT team on the ground during Trump's assassination attempt, airs in its entirety on "Good Morning America" on Monday, July 29, at 7 a.m. ET.
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Splib said:
I recall the first time I heard an AR with 5.56 and it surprised me how loud it was. I have been in front of same at 600 yards in a target pit and you need hearing protection.
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I remember seeing your article:

www.nydailynews.com

What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud

It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon. One day after 49 people were killed in the Orlando shooting, I traveled to Philadelphia to better understand the firepower of militar…
www.nydailynews.com www.nydailynews.com
 
Read post #1
And said:shaking:
Read post 2182 and thought of the quote, fukkin demacommies at large.

Now
Rocdoc:idea:
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ProjectTwin said:
I remember seeing your article:

www.nydailynews.com

What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud

It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon. One day after 49 people were killed in the Orlando shooting, I traveled to Philadelphia to better understand the firepower of militar…
www.nydailynews.com www.nydailynews.com
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All of you gun giz jockeys foccussed on your awesome knowledge and experience with ordanence retorts missed the subject of my post. There is no rifle retort in the videos. Clink Clink Clink. The emojee thing is not working on my Win11 laptop since my HD clear so I cant flip off Project Twin. Have you had your hearing tested ?


Roc Doc - 15 yard penalty and loss of down for illegal use of giz.
 
Splib said:
All of you gun giz jockeys foccussed on your awesome knowledge and experience with ordanence retorts missed the subject of my post. There is no rifle retort in the videos. Clink Clink Clink. The emojee thing is not working on my Win11 laptop since my HD clear so I cant flip off Project Twin. Have you had your hearing tested ?


Roc Doc - 15 yard penalty and loss of down for illegal use of giz.
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Sorry, can't hear you over my military grade tinnitus. :lmao:

I build and tune vehicles that compete in car audio sound quality competitions. How do you think my hearing is?

My eyesight is 20/12 if you care about that. :flipoff2:

I've been downrange like you and Roc Doc are talking about. Doc is on point. It's not crazy loud like you're saying.

I posted a video in this discussion where you hear the first three shots that are distinctly different from the five or so others that follow. Then there's another, different shot.

The first three are rumored to be fired from within a building (with the open 2nd floor window) and the five after that are louder (and have more of a crack to them) because you have the sound of the muzzle blast echoing off the metal roof of the building Ree Tardy Oswald was on. The final shot was CS guy taking out Ree Tardy Oswald.

The loudest shots in that video are the ones fired from the metal roof because of the echo/reverberation off of the metal roof that Ree Tardy Oswald was laying on.
 
92 Green YJ said:
WTF is Gab? I find it massively unlikely if not impossible that this kid didn’t have a presence on Facebook, Twitter (X), instagram, Reddit, ticktock, etc. there’s no way in hell a kid that age in this day in age was tall over social media and on the big name ones at that. Instead they find some post history on some obscure social media service most people have never heard about? Please. This absolutely reeks of a coverup.
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Facebook is dead to that age group. Instagram is fading with them. It’s all about tik tok and YouTube now.
 
ProjectTwin said:
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Sorry, can't hear you over my military grade tinnitus. :lmao:

I build and tune vehicles that compete in car audio sound quality competitions. How do you think my hearing is?

My eyesight is 20/12 if you care about that. :flipoff2:

I've been downrange like you and Roc Doc are talking about. Doc is on point. It's not crazy loud like you're saying.

I posted a video in this discussion where you hear the first three shots that are distinctly different from the five or so others that follow. Then there's another, different shot.

The first three are rumored to be fired from within a building (with the open 2nd floor window) and the five after that are louder (and have more of a crack to them) because you have the sound of the muzzle blast echoing off the metal roof of the building Ree Tardy Oswald was on. The final shot was CS guy taking out Ree Tardy Oswald.

The loudest shots in that video are the ones fired from the metal roof because of the echo/reverberation off of the metal roof that Ree Tardy Oswald was laying on.
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That can be as simple as different charges in the case, different bullet weights, different brand etc
Not uncommon to get a box of ammo that has a different charge between all 20 or however many's in the box
 
Splib said:
All of you gun giz jockeys foccussed on your awesome knowledge and experience with ordanence retorts missed the subject of my post. There is no rifle retort in the videos. Clink Clink Clink. The emojee thing is not working on my Win11 laptop since my HD clear so I cant flip off Project Twin. Have you had your hearing tested ?


Roc Doc - 15 yard penalty and loss of down for illegal use of giz.
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So you aren't aware of the existence of directional microphones?
 
Splib said:
Something that bothers me about all the video of the shooting is the audio. I dont think it is intentional or delibertae but the AR-15 "pattern" rifle and 5.56 are barely audible as little Call of Duty Click-Clicks. My opinion is that minimizes the event in some fashion, trivializes it to gaming fun noise. Gun retorts are loud, all of them. 5.56 or .223 is real fucking loud. It is a given that the oreintation of the source and the receiving end are not optimal for noise but gunshots are stil loud. Down range, in front of the shooter is real loud. Two sources of noise are at about 90 deg angles to each other, one of those, either the nerd or the LEO was blasting at a video source.

I recall the first time I heard an AR with 5.56 and it surprised me how loud it was. I have been in front of same at 600 yards in a target pit and you need hearing protection.
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Are your eyes brown? Because you are full of shit.
 
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