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GA school shooting.

If the kid is being charged as an adult, how is his dad responsible? If they are saying he made an "adult" decision then the parents have no role in what "adults" do?
Good Point. Hope his lawyers think of that.

But dad was negligent. If you read or listen to any of the interview the police had with him just over a year ago, dad said, yeah I know he knows how to handle guns and I know he should not have access to them.
Actually I think he said he would prevent access to them. Gotta go listen again.

Kind of screwed himself.
 
What about a parent where the kid takes the car keys and kills someone?
What about parents that buy their 16 year old a Mustang for his birthday and he kills someone?

This slope can go places, and none of them are good.
This will probably be the next step.
 
It's still blame everything but that actual issues with schools and society.

I's the guns fault. Let's send kamala down to find the root cause of illegal migration but never even think to find the root cause of why kids are going psycho.
 
Sad. Kids killed, Dad in jail, shooter life ruined. Don't kids "meet at the bike rack" anymore?

Guess not

Now it's "meet at the tiktok post of the challenge to shoot your teachers" er sumshit :homer:
 
What about a parent where the kid takes the car keys and kills someone?
What about parents that buy their 16 year old a Mustang for his birthday and he kills someone?

This slope can go places, and none of them are good.
Oh for sure. I was thinking since 5hey had a talk already.
 
Facts are facts 2A is not going to be factor when you ask Sallys mom if she should die in 10th grade cause "rights".

The 54 year old dad should/did know better than to leave his shit unlocked or accessible by ANYONE.

Ya'll can poo poo me all you want, you know the laws about securing firearms in the presence of under age kids.
If you think 2A is going to keep you safe if your kids accidentally kills his friend they probably have 3 hots and cot waiting for you.
 
This specifically outlines how they will use the lack of law to hold you accountable.
If you have guns in your house with minors you should really consider how good of friends you are in the context of someone dying at the hands of your child and your firearm...


Child Access Prevention​


Georgia law generally makes it unlawful for any person to intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly furnish a handgun to a minor under age 18, subject to multiple exceptions discussed below.1 A minor’s parent or legal guardian may also be held criminally liable for “permit[ting]” their minor child to possess a handgun in circumstances where they know the minor is engaging in conduct that constitutes illegal possession of a handgun and the parent or guardian failed to take reasonable efforts to prevent them from doing so.2

These restrictions do not prevent a parent or guardian from furnishing handguns to a minor, or permitting a minor to access handguns, when the minor is:

1) Attending a hunter education course or a firearms safety course;
2) Engaging in practice in the use of a firearm or target shooting at an established range authorized by the governing body of the jurisdiction where such range is located;
3) Engaging in an organized competition involving the use of a firearm or participating in or practicing for a performance by an organized group under 26 U.S.C. § 501(c)(3) which uses firearms as a part of such performance;
4) Hunting or fishing pursuant to a valid license if such person has in their possession a valid hunting or fishing license if required; is engaged in legal hunting or fishing; has permission of the owner of the land on which the activities are being conducted; and the pistol or revolver, whenever loaded, is carried only in an open and fully exposed manner;
5) Traveling to or from any of the aforementioned activities, if the pistol or revolver is not loaded;
6) Who is on their parent’s, legal guardian’s, or grandparent’s real property and who has the permission of their parent, legal guardian, or grandparent to possess the handgun; or
7) Who is at their residence and possesses a handgun while exercising rights authorized in Ga. Code Ann. §§ 16-3-21 or 16-3-23 (provisions regarding the justified use of force against another) with the permission of their parent or legal guardian.3

A separate provision of Georgia law prohibits any parent or legal guardian from intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly furnishing, or permitting a minor to possess a handgun, if the parent or legal guardian is aware of a substantial risk that the minor will use the handgun to commit a felony.4 This criminal liability also attaches if the parent or legal guardian, who is aware of a substantial risk that the minor will use the handgun to commit a felony, fails to make reasonable efforts to prevent commission of the offense by the minor.5 A parent or legal guardian may also criminally liable if they furnish a handgun to, or permit possession of a handgun by, any minor who has been convicted of a forcible felony or forcible misdemeanor, or who has been adjudicated delinquent for an offense which would constitute a forcible felony or forcible misdemeanor if such minor were an adult.6

Safe Storage​


Georgia law does not otherwise expressly make it unlawful for an adult to negligently or recklessly leave unsecured firearms, including handguns and long guns, accessible to unsupervised minors.

Georgia does not require a locking device to accompany the sale of a firearm, although federal law applies, and generally does not require firearm owners to affirmatively lock their weapons. State administrative regulations may govern the secure control of firearms in certain locations.
 
Facts are facts 2A is not going to be factor when you ask Sallys mom if she should die in 10th grade cause "rights".

The 54 year old dad should/did know better than to leave his shit unlocked or accessible by ANYONE.

Ya'll can poo poo me all you want, you know the laws about securing firearms in the presence of under age kids.
If you think 2A is going to keep you safe if your kids accidentally kills his friend they probably have 3 hots and cot waiting for you.
WTF are you going on about? Daddy bought jr. this rifle for Christmas knowing this kid was an unstable nut.

He made threats on line and as usual the cops couldn't figure it out until kids are dead.
 
WTF are you going on about? Daddy bought jr. this rifle for Christmas knowing this kid was an unstable nut.

He made threats on line and as usual the cops couldn't figure it out until kids are dead.


Duh, nobody gives a fuck about crazy, dead kids are leverage for the .gov and their media stooges.
 
WTF are you going on about? Daddy bought jr. this rifle for Christmas knowing this kid was an unstable nut.

He made threats on line and as usual the cops couldn't figure it out until kids are dead.
How do you conclude the dad knew he was unstable? Because the stupid "blaze" told you?
LE found he did not make any threats online. Read the facts, listen to what the cops say, not what a journalist thinks.

"The investigator wrote that no arrests were made because of 'inconsistent information' on the Discord account, which had profile information in Russian and a digital evidence trail indicating it had been accessed in different Georgia cities as well as Buffalo, New York."
"The Discord account had a user name written in Russian, and the translation of the letters spelled out the name Lanza, referencing Adam Lanza, the perpetrator of the Sandy Hook Elementary school tragedy, officers said."
"Gray denied he was the author of the threats, telling police he'd shut down his Discord after being repeatedly hacked. He expressed concerns that someone would make those accusations about him."
"The sheriff's investigators closed the case after being unable to substantiate that either Gray was connected to the Discord account, and did not find grounds to seek the needed court order to confiscate the family's guns"
 
What about a parent where the kid takes the car keys and kills someone?
What about parents that buy their 16 year old a Mustang for his birthday and he kills someone?

This slope can go places, and none of them are good.
A family of a shooter was just found innocent a few weeks ago locally.

Circumstances will be different… but the same.


 
What about a parent where the kid takes the car keys and kills someone?
What about parents that buy their 16 year old a Mustang for his birthday and he kills someone?

This slope can go places, and none of them are good.
Was there intent? Like a kid taking a gun to school. Or was it an accident? Like a kid losing control of a vehicle.

apples and oranges.
 
Was there intent? Like a kid taking a gun to school. Or was it an accident? Like a kid losing control of a vehicle.

apples and oranges.
Was the car a right granted by god and protected by the constitution?

I’d say the car is more liable.
 
Yeah I could see a failure to secure firearms charges but think murder is a bit left field.


It's still blame everything but that actual issues with schools and society.

throw the book at him and let the things settle out in court.
 
Facts are facts 2A is not going to be factor when you ask Sallys mom if she should die in 10th grade cause "rights".

The 54 year old dad should/did know better than to leave his shit unlocked or accessible by ANYONE.

Ya'll can poo poo me all you want, you know the laws about securing firearms in the presence of under age kids.
If you think 2A is going to keep you safe if your kids accidentally kills his friend they probably have 3 hots and cot waiting for you.
Every state, every prosecutor's office in the country will be watching this unfold.

2nd degree murder is usually the most creatively wielded arrow in the quiver. Watson murder being the most famous example, but lately I've been seeing new versions of implied malice murder all over the country. It's especially ironic in CA of course, as while I'm sure the legislature wants to act on gun deaths, they are hamstrung by the endless protections for criminal defendants that prevent more creative applications of the law.

Very, very interesting theory of liability here.
 
Was the car a right granted by god and protected by the constitution?

I’d say the car is more liable.
Probably why there’s insurance. And kids are on the parents policy because no matter the age of the kid, if they are supported by and live with the parents, aka implied consent and access, the parents can be sued as well. Unless the kid is excluded.

But if kid still takes car then parents either have to report the car as stolen or have be part of the claim.
 
Buying your best boy a AR for Christmas then not securing it until he's legal age or doing one of the tasks mentioned in the law is really putting a lot of faith in the best boy...
 
What drugs was he on?

Mental health is the issue. It reaches far and wide in our society. Purposefully being ignored.

The second amendment does not exclude minors IMO.
some of those special ed kids are bullying MFers. They don't think the rules apply to them. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.
 
Or just wannabe :mr-t:

Dumb :mr-t: brings a gun to shoot someone he had a problem with and hits a bunch of bystanders is my guess.

:mr-t: gonna :mr-t:.

no mug shot?

Perp. is a minor . . . and possibly a minority

My bet he is black as the ace of spades

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:laughing:
 
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