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kmkommes said:
I have the equivalent of around 1,000 milwaukee batteries at home. I've used them as door stops, steps, etc... I should probably rethink my storage. :lmao:
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electric lawnmower guy?
ever figure out what kinda stuff you're gonna do with them?
 
I’ve heard of dewalt batteries catching fire but never any stories of Milwaukee ones going up. I charge the 50+ batteries only thing I try to do is not let them freeze. I’ve never had any fire problems or heard of anyone with fire problems for any of the platforms besides dewalt.
 
animator said:
Would an EV be charging while on a boat?


There’s also plenty of stories of E-bikes catching and burning inside NY apartment buildings.
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Kavinaw or however you spell it stepped up to the plate this week and pushed for the UL and other regulators to step up and stop manufacturing from running free as they currently are. She isn't backing down like her predecessor's.

I just saw a news clip of an E bike battery exploding while folks were outside dining. That little fucker went off like some C4!

Anyways, im wondering if a flammable cabinet would be useful to prevent loosing your stuff to a fire. Most of them can be vented outside with schedule 40 or 80 pipe.
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ANGRYBLACK said:
Kavinaw or however you spell it stepped up to the plate this week and pushed for the UL and other regulators to step up and stop manufacturing from running free as they currently are. She isn't backing down like her predecessor's.

I just saw a news clip of an E bike battery exploding while folks were outside dining. That little fucker went off like some C4!

Anyways, im wondering if a flammable cabinet would be useful to prevent loosing your stuff to a fire. Most of them can be vented outside with schedule 40 or 80 pipe.
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I mentioned these earlier and now I’m on the lookout for another just for charging duties.
I try to remember to turn off the power strip as I leave the shop, but sometimes I :homer:

Right now I just have my chargers and batteries on a good metal shelf away from the wall.

My neighbor’s shop burned down 18 months ago due to either Milwaukee chargers (owner’s thinking) or some greasy tags that were in a metal bucket but not covered (fire Marshall Bill’s idea). I upped the insurance on my shop and hope my dewalt’s done go critical.
 
Weren't many stories about shit burning down back when we had low strung 12 and 18v power tools...
 
I'm thinking about one . I'm actually looking into one for a 55 gallon drum of E85 at the house. Gotta cokem correct to the code inspector yaknow.
 
[486] said:
well, weren't anywhere near as many cordless tools then either
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Call me old-fashioned, but I still use only air tools in the garage, and never made the switch to electric. My house may still burn down, but it won’t be because of lithium batteries and chargers. :flipoff2:
 
animator said:
Call me old-fashioned, but I still use only air tools in the garage, and never made the switch to electric. My house may still burn down, but it won’t be because of lithium batteries and chargers. :flipoff2:
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indeed, cordless impacts suck donkey dick compared to air

"oh the cordless ones got all the powers of the air" and absolutely none of the control
 
[486] said:
indeed, cordless impacts suck donkey dick compared to air

"oh the cordless ones got all the powers of the air" and absolutely none of the control
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I love my 3/8 20v impact. Still use the IR 1/2” for bigger stuff though.

I still use corded tools for anything that isn’t spinning in a drill or driver. Still have a corded drill too just in case.
 
Void_of_Light said:
I love my 3/8 20v impact.
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try running threading taps with it
doesn't have near the control that air ones do, because the impact mechanism is a jaw clutch instead of the nice loose twin hammers (pin clutch CP style impacts suffer a similar lack of feel but not as much as the jaw clutch ones)
 
Muckin_Slusher said:
You're right, my mistake.

I should have said charge and store your batteries in the stove.
They don't only catch fire while charging.

Thanks!

Edit: What exactly is your plan if you are in the garage when one starts to burn?
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Should that happen I am likely as screwed as anyone else.

I try to mitigate the risk of fire in house/garage, still cannot account for everything. That will be a very expensive firework for sure, there goes years of tool accumulation, garage toys and a bunch of other stuff.
 
ANGRYBLACK said:
Kavinaw or however you spell it stepped up to the plate this week and pushed for the UL and other regulators to step up and stop manufacturing from running free as they currently are. She isn't backing down like her predecessor's.

I just saw a news clip of an E bike battery exploding while folks were outside dining. That little fucker went off like some C4!

Anyways, im wondering if a flammable cabinet would be useful to prevent loosing your stuff to a fire. Most of them can be vented outside with schedule 40 or 80 pipe.
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What's a steel cabinet going to do against a lithium fire? Maybe it takes solid - what? Concrete? Granite? Firefighters/fire marshalls, please weigh in.
 
[486] said:
indeed, cordless impacts suck donkey dick compared to air

"oh the cordless ones got all the powers of the air" and absolutely none of the control
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I heard the hype, saw tons of people switching over to electric but never said this is better or that is better til i knew.

My electric milwaukee 1/2 impact is lightyears ahead of my ir2131 impact with 150psi behind it.

You really should try one.
 
Video of Lipo in an amo box. You dont need to store everything in a wood stove to be "safe"

 
[486] said:
electric lawnmower guy?
ever figure out what kinda stuff you're gonna do with them?
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I dont have a plan yet, but this post convinced me to bring home another 26 kwh yesterday

I'm a red lawnmower guy. Not this yellow one. :)
 
bunk said:
I heard the hype, saw tons of people switching over to electric but never said this is better or that is better til i knew.

My electric milwaukee 1/2 impact is lightyears ahead of my ir2131 impact with 150psi behind it.

You really should try one.
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I've got a 2767
it isn't anywhere near as nice as my $125 aircat 1150

it might have a little more socket breaking power, but it doesn't have anywhere near the speed and control afforded by the air impacts
too much inertia in the motor side, and as explained, a spring loaded jaw clutch impact mechanism
 
kmkommes said:
I'm a red lawnmower guy. Not this yellow one. :)
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yeah I remembered the previous time you were being obsequious about it
the red company that used to be headquartered in MN who made the absolute best rubber impeller single stage two stroke snowblower ever built by man

What part of the country?
If it is somewhere that 'peaking' batteries are a thing, that might be a direction to go.
Some guys just run batteries and no solar, charging them off-peak and backfeeding their meter during peak hours, ending up with a profit
 
[486] said:
I've got a 2767
it isn't anywhere near as nice as my $125 aircat 1150

it might have a little more socket breaking power, but it doesn't have anywhere near the speed and control afforded by the air impacts
too much inertia in the motor side, and as explained, a spring loaded jaw clutch impact mechanism
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I hear that, i adapted and stopped tripping over airlines. But i still have a significant air system.
 
49willys_mogon said:
I'll stick with fossil fuels

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our dept just went through tesla training on tesla car fires. Where to cut on the quarter panel to cut the main wire from batteries to the car, Where to hook up a jump pack under the hood to power doors and such. What a pain in the ass. Local tow place near me has a pit 1/2 filled with water that he dumps the EV's in after a fire because they re-ignite up to 72 hrs after the original fire.

yay save the planet.
 
nahmus said:
our dept just went through tesla training on tesla car fires. Where to cut on the quarter panel to cut the main wire from batteries to the car, Where to hook up a jump pack under the hood to power doors and such. What a pain in the ass. Local tow place near me has a pit 1/2 filled with water that he dumps the EV's in after a fire because they re-ignite up to 72 hrs after the original fire.

yay save the planet.
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Anyone with even passing knowledge of lipo understands that high charge rates can damage cells and shorten the life of the cells exponentially. But you know most of these cars get charged at high rates so they can pretend they're good for the environment and can be just as useful as an internal combustion vehicle. They're just finding out how wrong they are the hard way. :laughing:
 
Early battery failure means a trip to the dealership.

My 99 taco made it to 310k with nothing but fluids, tires and brakes being changed. I'm pretty sure that was way better for the planet than a tesla at the same mileage.
 
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Only really need 30 min or so to contain a lithium battery fire
why not do what all the gun safes do, four layers of 5/8" drywall
vent it outside yeah, but it'd keep the fire contained for a good while, hopefully until it burns out on its own
 
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