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electri-tards bug zapper tech

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My beloved set'em on fire 3500 done gone and burnt the trans on me.

I need a replacement trans but have zero info on the existing trans. See any where from 2k-10kv. No info on trans other than ink stamped proprietary #

Aprox 2.25"x 3.75" and enough v x @ to light a fat moth up.

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M92PV4U

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What brand bug zapper? Any information left on the bug zapper?
 

Lance

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10kv, go big or go home
 

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Cut it open and see if you can get an idea of the ratio of primary to secondary windings. That should get you a ballpark number if its doable.
 

PAE

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What kind of voltage would a old ford coil (wood case) provide ?

I need a samwitch of material like chicken wire with insulated standoffs between in witch to smoke the critters.

Going diggin in my storage to find said old ford coil.


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I found a lable inside the cage. El-zoppo/zappo "high voltage" but couldnt get a pic worth a shit of it.

Couldnt seem to get it apart either, i think the lamp may be corroded into the sockets.

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Most of them seem to be 5600 volts@9ma but I saw one years ago @16 ma that really roasted the little buggers. I have one made by the El-Zoppo corp that uses a 700 volt transformer and a voltage doubler circuit up to 1400 volts with a capacitor across the grid. When the transformer crapped out I replaced it and increased the output capacitor to 1 mfd. It doesn't go zzzzzt, it goes Bang! The bigger the capacitor the bigger the bang but I've got neighbors so I stopped at 1 mfd. It kills everything except Japanese Beetles.They are too well insulated. I think the wings must be made of plastic. This years experiment is adding pear nectar and sugar as bait. It works great in my bee traps.
 

78bronco460

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Get a 5kv neon sign transformer off amazon. That should do the job.
 

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Ill have to experiment with the transformers ive collected.

They are huge and putout upwards of 10kv.

You have a substation, or a different definition of huge?
 

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Get a 5kv neon sign transformer off amazon. That should do the job.

Thats what i was thinking. I installed neon for a long time and have taken plenty of shocks from transformers and am frankly a little surprized at the volt/ma rateing of the zappers. A 12kv/30ma trans is a good tickle but not what i would think would be suitable for these zappers.

Most modern trans have a " sense" in them and wont like the open load of no current. They will just shut off, fire prevention.

That being said. An old school 7k/60ma transco would be a hell of a thing. But to much voltage will just build a jacobs ladder with a flowing arc. A 12kv will reach about 2".
 

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A few neon sign transformers and other 240 primary to 3 - 4k transformers.

And some caps from the 1970's that weigh 100lbs each.

PCB’s in those old capacitors makes for for expensive disposal. They can’t be installed anywhere legally.
 
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