He is kinda correct, there were never any factory ones.
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Darien gap
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ugh, that guy again?
electronically governed
the mechanically governed conversions kinda either are 50hp turds or they quickly kill themselves
Donk
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They're not supremely rust proof so I guess parts availability isn't terrible, failing that I bet the locals can fix anything with with a couple of car batteries, a set of jump leads and a coat hangerI don't know anything about Toyotas, but when I was there, there was a ton of old Toyota trucks driving around. Not sure if that would equate to parts availability though, the humidity (>150 inches of rain per year) and sea air is rough on metal parts, or so I've heard
Squamch
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I don't know anything about Toyotas, but when I was there, there was a ton of old Toyota trucks driving around. Not sure if that would equate to parts availability though, the humidity (>150 inches of rain per year) and sea air is rough on metal parts, or so I've heard
That's not bad, similar to around here and the parts are just starting to dry up now, with a LOT of wheelers and hoarders around.
Lilyota
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I'm not really sure what all the confusion is about?
A group of guys ran it in 78 with a handful of stock jeeps that were likely carbureted inline six motors.
watch the jeep video above.
No way in hell I would be taking anything fuel injected or heavily modified after watchin that video.
Id be looking for the most comin vehicle that you would find out there.
A group of guys ran it in 78 with a handful of stock jeeps that were likely carbureted inline six motors.
watch the jeep video above.
No way in hell I would be taking anything fuel injected or heavily modified after watchin that video.
Id be looking for the most comin vehicle that you would find out there.
Squamch
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And they struggled through. What I'm saying is that a well built modern rig should be able to run it easily. Not some cobbled together shitbox, but a tested, proven, reliable rig.
Lilyota
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The guys on the KLR's struggled more.
Who da fuk doesn't pack a few extra clutch kits when heading into a remote jungle in the southern hemisphere?
Lilyota
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And I guess what I'm getting at is that there is no way I'm heading into an unknown area with fuel injection.
A carburetor needs 12 psi and no wires.
Fuck even arti could mentally muscle through a carb if he had to
A carburetor needs 12 psi and no wires.
Fuck even arti could mentally muscle through a carb if he had to
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ugh, that guy again?
not even, gravity is plenty
MChat
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Looks like the majority that have "driven" the Darien Gap used barges on the rivers for a significant part of it:
en.m.wikipedia.org
Patricia Mercier is who did the presentation of the trip (it was actually more than just the Darien Gap, it was a trip around the world) to the 4x4 club in Panama.
Image search on "Loren Upton Darien Gap" brings back some images:
Darién Gap - Wikipedia
Patricia Mercier is who did the presentation of the trip (it was actually more than just the Darien Gap, it was a trip around the world) to the 4x4 club in Panama.
Image search on "Loren Upton Darien Gap" brings back some images:
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On the other hand, according to several of these stories linked from this thread the cartels are running it frequently and will drive people from one end of to the other for a fee.
It doesn't go into if they are taking them all the way, taking them part way and having them cross on a ferry or what, but between the foot traffic and the cartels, I would be surprised if the road was worse than it was back when that jeep video was filmed.
Aaron Z
Looks like the majority that have "driven" the Darien Gap used barges on the rivers for a significant part of it:
Darién Gap - Wikipedia
Patricia Mercier is who did the presentation of the trip (it was actually more than just the Darien Gap, it was a trip around the world) to the 4x4 club in Panama.
Image search on "Loren Upton Darien Gap" brings back some images:
Looks like the guy passed away this August. He sure did what he liked.
Loran Lee Upton Obituary - Visitation & Funeral Information
View Loran Lee Upton's obituary, contribute to their memorial, see their funeral service details, and more.
MChat
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Parts of the Darien Gap are completely unnavigatible during rainy season (which is 9 months of the year). 125 miles of clearing the path and sometimes even building bridges. There is a shot in the video I posted where they winched around a big tree.
Weight and size becomes a factor. Which is one of the reasons he switched from the F250 to CJ's. There are some river crossings that are by a small barge and other crossings where a makeshift bridge is constructed.
Weasel
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I was reading of a couple of recent attempts of guys on bike were they end up having to carry the bike for a significant portion. If it's bad enough to have to carry/push a bike thats a bit rough.
Gravy
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Give the firefighter dozer operator a direction and watch it happen.
Squamch
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If you watch the guys with the KLRs that I linked earlier, they had a team of locals pushing/pulling/dragging the bikes. I'd love to see what a well supported hard enduro hero could do in there. Redbull should send someone through on a KTM 300, heli dropping supplies to them all the way
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A group of English soldiers did it with a pair of Range Rovers and a series II landrover back in 1971/1972:
Donk
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SWB LJ70 cruiser anyone?
SWB, narrowish, lightish, coil sprung and unlike the bigger cruisers it shares most of it's running gear with the hilux (2LT engine, toy 8" axles). Can personally confirm that with the addition of a snorkel they can happily play submarines without skipping a beat.
SWB, narrowish, lightish, coil sprung and unlike the bigger cruisers it shares most of it's running gear with the hilux (2LT engine, toy 8" axles). Can personally confirm that with the addition of a snorkel they can happily play submarines without skipping a beat.
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Are there any of these in the states?
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Maybe a handful of grey market imports. They don't have the power to pull the skin of a custard and they crack heads everytime you point them at a hill.
Just get a defender 90 or jeep. It's already been done in a series 2 landrover and rangerovers. On 7.50-16" tyres after the skidder sized 12x16.5" were breaking diffs.
But they did have a team of 8 guys hacking a path through the jungle ahead of them.......
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Or better. Cartels are a business. They'll improve the road if it pencils out.
The fuel pump that never quits.
A stack of discs fit inside the spare tire.
Provience
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KungFooMASTA
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Sound like those bikes could use a small winch and pull themselves anywhere.If you watch the guys with the KLRs that I linked earlier, they had a team of locals pushing/pulling/dragging the bikes. I'd love to see what a well supported hard enduro hero could do in there. Redbull should send someone through on a KTM 300, heli dropping supplies to them all the way
KungFooMASTA
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They broke every differential in the dang things and still thought it was a good idea to not build them stronger and build millions of them. Great thinking LandRover. Worst part ever of wheeling a Rover. Broken diff and axle shafts almost every time. I dont miss those days.A group of English soldiers did it with a pair of Range Rovers and a series II landrover back in 1971/1972:
Gregj50!!!!!
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Because they built them for rich soccer moms duh!!!!!!
Guys that wheel them know exactly what they’re getting into…. And are just trying prove they can actually be wheeled!!!!
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They put about a ton of extra weight into them and fitted 12x33" skid steer tyres to drive through the jungles. So yeah.
On the stock 29" the axles survive okay. Not great, but okay for up to 32" skinny.