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Everyone rising up against isreal is spoken of in the bible, but there are a bunch of other things that have to happen first.

But yes it sure could be the start of those things. Bible didn't say Isreal was not already at war.
 
I'm wondering what MChat says about the current events with Israel?
I posted this in one of the two current Israel threads, but there are a lot of prophecies that deal with Israel being in conflict with the nations surrounding them. Most of them have already come to pass in either Old Testament times or in modern times (Psalm 83 and the Israeli-Arab war of 1948 as an example), but this one sticks out as being true both in old times and in modern times:

Numbers 33:53,55
And ye shall dispossess the inhabitants of the land, and dwell therein: for I have given you the land to possess it.

But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.

There are still (as of yet) unfulfilled prophecies; chiefly Ezekiel 38-39, known as the Gog/Magog war. I would say that current events are precursors to that war, but if the majority of Eschatology Scholars are correct, we're still a long way off as Russia is currently preoccupied with Ukraine and most scholars have interpreted the scripture as Russia being the main antagonist in that war.

Now, depending on how Israel's neighbors (particularly Syria) respond to Israel's handling of the current situation, we may be on the brink of seeing Isaiah 17:1 be fulfilled ("The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.") I have a feeling that if Israel swats the wasp that has stung them too harshly, they will draw the ire of the majority of the Middle East.

I've often thought that Isaiah 17 would be the "hook in the jaw" that draws Gog (Russia) down to war against Israel, so it is probably still a few years away as well. As I said before, Russia's a bit preoccupied, so unless something happens that wraps up Ukraine quickly (and undeniably a Russian victory), I don't see these prophecies becoming fulfilled anytime soon.
 
Interesting read. long... but interesting.

Interesting.

There is definitely a good deal of prophecy involving the nation of Israel and her surrounding neighbors/enemies. And every eschatology student is looking at current events and prophecies looking for things that line up.

One of the more interesting peices is something most people will miss:

You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible
The Puppet Masters claim to descend from the Amalekites which the Bible says were descended from Anak who was a Nephilim.

Numbers 13:28-29
Nevertheless the people be strong that dwell in the land, and the cities are walled, and very great: and moreover we saw the children of Anak there. The Amalekites dwell in the land of the south: and the Hittites, and the Jebusites, and the Amorites, dwell in the mountains: and the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and by the coast of Jordan.

Thus the Elites claim to descend from demons specifically through Amalek.

Is Netanyahu calling out the Elites?
 
MChat

Any additional thoughts on any of this?

Kinda missing my preacher man
Been busy... looking for a new job.

IMO, nothing really has changed prophetically speaking from my post above (#604). Russia is still preoccupied and while things may be heating up a bit, Damascus is still a city and not a pile of ashes. I'm still expecting Damascus being destroyed as the event that kicks everything into high gear for end-times prophecies.
 
Revelation 13:3
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

Is the assassination attempt on Trump a foreshadowing of things to come?

I've speculated before that Trump might be one of the 10 "Kings" that (knowingly or unknowingly) help the Anti-Christ rise to power by exposing and defeating the Deep State.

I don't think the assassination attempt is actually a fulfillment of this prophecy, but rather a "shadow fulfillment"; that is symbolism of what is to come soon, perhaps.
 
MCHAT, I vuagely remember the anti-crist is supposed to suffer a near fatal injury. I don’t know how it is worded. Does it say he nearly dies or just that he is nearly killed?

Also, does this happen before or after the temple in Israel being rebuilt?
 
Is the assassination attempt on Trump a foreshadowing of things to come?

I've speculated before that Trump might be one of the 10 "Kings" that (knowingly or unknowingly) help the Anti-Christ rise to power by exposing and defeating the Deep State.

I don't think the assassination attempt is actually a fulfillment of this prophecy, but rather a "shadow fulfillment"; that is symbolism of what is to come soon, perhaps.


Not a chance.

America isn't in Revelations for a reason. :stirthepot:
 
Not a chance.

America isn't in Revelations for a reason. :stirthepot:
I disagree, I think Babylon The Great and the Fall of Babylon prophecies are about the U.S. I believe I've already covered why earlier in this thread.

See also Isaiah 18, which I believe is a warning/prophecy against the U.S.
 
MCHAT, I vuagely remember the anti-crist is supposed to suffer a near fatal injury. I don’t know how it is worded. Does it say he nearly dies or just that he is nearly killed?

Also, does this happen before or after the temple in Israel being rebuilt?
That is a generally accepted interpretation of Revelation 13:3. And has been made even more popular by several "End Times" movies.
 
What about Ezra's Eagle prophecy? I'm not mormon or catholic (I think they both still have the Apocrypha in their respective bibles) I haven't researched why the church of England axed it from the KJV. This prophecy is in said Apocrypha, 2 Esdras 11. Michael B Rush is an LDS dude who has done a deep dive into this. Cliffs notes would do no justice so I'm not even. I went down the rabbit hole today. Ran across one guys take on it, especially in light of the current political climate. Might be the most tin foil hat thing ever....or he might be onto something. If anyone in this thread is familiar with Ezras Eagle I'd be curious to hear your thoughts.
 
What about Ezra's Eagle prophecy? I'm not mormon or catholic (I think they both still have the Apocrypha in their respective bibles) I haven't researched why the church of England axed it from the KJV. This prophecy is in said Apocrypha, 2 Esdras 11. Michael B Rush is an LDS dude who has done a deep dive into this. Cliffs notes would do no justice so I'm not even. I went down the rabbit hole today. Ran across one guys take on it, especially in light of the current political climate. Might be the most tin foil hat thing ever....or he might be onto something. If anyone in this thread is familiar with Ezras Eagle I'd be curious to hear your thoughts.
If anyone can they are going to have to spill the beans on what it is. So why can't you?
 
I can post a wall of text that no one will read

2 Esdras Chapter 11

The Vision of the Eagle​

11 On the second night I had a dream, and behold, there came up from the sea an eagle that had twelve feathered wings and three heads. 2 And I looked, and behold, he spread his wings over[a] all the earth, and all the winds of heaven blew upon him, and the clouds were gathered about him.[b] 3 And I looked, and out of his wings there grew opposing wings; but they became little, puny wings. 4 But his heads were at rest; the middle head was larger than the other heads, but it also was at rest with them. 5 And I looked, and behold, the eagle flew with his wings, to reign over the earth and over those who dwell in it. 6 And I saw how all things under heaven were subjected to him, and no one spoke against him, not even one creature that was on the earth. 7 And I looked, and behold, the eagle rose upon his talons, and uttered a cry to his wings, saying, 8 “Do not all watch at the same time; let each sleep in his own place, and watch in his turn; 9 but let the heads be reserved for the last.”


10 And I looked, and behold, the voice did not come from his heads, but from the midst of his body. 11 And I counted his opposing wings, and behold, there were eight of them. 12 And I looked, and behold, on the right side one wing arose, and it reigned over all the earth. 13 And while it was reigning it came to its end and disappeared, so that its place was not seen. Then the next wing arose and reigned, and it continued to reign a long time. 14 And while it was reigning its end came also, so that it disappeared like the first. 15 And behold, a voice sounded, saying to it. 16 “Hear me, you who have ruled the earth all this time; I announce this to you before you disappear. 17 After you no one shall rule as long as you, or even half as long.”


18 Then the third wing raised itself up, and held the rule like the former ones, and it also disappeared. 19 And so it went with all the wings; they wielded power one after another and then were never seen again. 20 And I looked, and behold, in due course the wings that followed[c] also rose up on the right[d] side, in order to rule. There were some of them that ruled, yet disappeared suddenly; 21 and others of them rose up, but did not hold the rule.


22 And after this I looked, and behold, the twelve wings and the two little wings disappeared; 23 and nothing remained on the eagle’s body except the three heads that were at rest and six little wings. 24 And I looked, and behold, two little wings separated from the six and remained under the head that was on the right side; but four remained in their place. 25 And I looked, and behold, these little wings[e] planned to set themselves up and hold the rule. 26 And I looked, and behold, one was set up, but suddenly disappeared; 27 a second also, and this disappeared more quickly than the first. 28 And I looked, and behold, the two that remained were planning between themselves to reign together; 29 and while they were planning, behold, one of the heads that were at rest (the one which was in the middle) awoke; for it was greater than the other two heads. 30 And I saw how it allied the two heads with itself, 31 and behold, the head turned with those that were with it, and it devoured the two little wings[f] which were planning to reign. 32 Moreover this head gained control of the whole earth, and with much oppression dominated its inhabitants; and it had greater power over the world than all the wings that had gone before.


33 And after this I looked, and behold, the middle head also suddenly disappeared, just as the wings had done. 34 But the two heads remained, which also ruled over the earth and its inhabitants. 35 And I looked, and behold, the head on the right side devoured the one on the left.


A Lion Roused from the Forest​

36 Then I heard a voice saying to me, “Look before you and consider what you see.” 37 And I looked, and behold, a creature like a lion was aroused out of the forest, roaring; and I heard how he uttered a man’s voice to the eagle, and spoke, saying, 38 “Listen and I will speak to you. The Most High says to you, 39 ‘Are you not the one that remains of the four beasts which I had made to reign in my world, so that the end of my times might come through them? 40 You, the fourth that has come, have conquered all the beasts that have gone before; and you have held sway over the world with much terror, and over all the earth with grievous oppression; and for so long you have dwelt on the earth with deceit.[g] 41 And you have judged the earth, but not with truth; 42 for you have afflicted the meek and injured the peaceable; you have hated those who tell the truth, and have loved liars; you have destroyed the dwellings of those who brought forth fruit, and have laid low the walls of those who did you no harm. 43 And so your insolence has come up before the Most High, and your pride to the Mighty One. 44 And the Most High has looked upon his times, and behold, they are ended, and his ages are completed! 45 Therefore you will surely disappear, you eagle, and your terrifying wings, and your most evil little wings, and your malicious heads, and your most evil talons, and your whole worthless body, 46 so that the whole earth, freed from your violence, may be refreshed and relieved, and may hope for the judgment and mercy of him who made it.’”
 
Tried to watch the video, hard to do at work.

I don't care much about what happens in the real world but would be curious to see what correlations they are making as well.
 
I am LDS. Ezra's Eagle has become popular for study amongst LDS scholars, but is not really from an LDS text. It is fascinating and I would suggest anyone interested in end-times prophecies look into it. YouTube is a good source for summaries.

There are fascinating chronological tie-ins to real-time events. This election and the upcoming presidential seating are the crux of the Ezra's Eagle prophecies.
 
I've never actually read any of the Apocrypha (although I really should). These books were not considered canonical by the Jews, nor by the early Church. Basically, the Baptist/Protestant stance is that these books neither claim to be of divine origin, nor have the characteristics of divinely inspired scripture and many of them have the characteristics of legendification (exaggeration of what actually happened and/or other historical inaccuracies). The Catholic Church did not accept these books until the 16th century.

Having said that, it is clear that the prophecy of Ezra's Eagle could definitely apply. The "wings that come and go" would be the Presidents. The President (wing) who was told "After you no one shall rule as long as you, or even half as long" would be Roosevelt. The "rose up, but did not hold the rule" would be the Deep State puppets (the Deep State being the ones who are actually ruling).

The 3 heads would be the 3 branches of our government. Their "being asleep" is an indication that our government isn't working the way it should, and the "wings" (Presidents) have more power than they are supposed to.

The rest of the prophecy with the two wings conspiring with each other to rule, I don't believe has happened yet; but it would appear that our Gov (the 3 heads) "wakes up" and does something about it. I'm not sure which head would be considered "the greatest" (it might be SCOTUS, if this is indeed from God's point of view). Which would explain why it's the first head to disappear, and the last one remaining would be the Executive branch (President). Which would fit in with the Ten Kings prophecy in Revelation, being one of the "kings" that are removed (as the Lion above indicates).

Meanwhile, the Lion is (if this corresponds to the "Lion and the Whelps thereof" in Ezekiel 38-39) the UK. And its judgement of the Eagle (U.S.) then corresponds to what I believe is the Fall of Babylon The Great in Revelation.

That's my take on it, without having read anyone else's opinion on it (this thread is the first time I've even read it).
 
I am LDS. Ezra's Eagle has become popular for study amongst LDS scholars, but is not really from an LDS text. It is fascinating and I would suggest anyone interested in end-times prophecies look into it. YouTube is a good source for summaries.

There are fascinating chronological tie-ins to real-time events. This election and the upcoming presidential seating are the crux of the Ezra's Eagle prophecies.
Just curious as I have not watched any of it.

Why this election and not any of the others?

To me every election seemed like it was a "way of life" ending election.

Though to our grandparents this seems like the end times, as it does to many of us. But in reality we also have a lot farther we can fall into the pit depravity.
 
Just curious as I have not watched any of it.

Why this election and not any of the others?

To me every election seemed like it was a "way of life" ending election.

Though to our grandparents this seems like the end times, as it does to many of us. But in reality we also have a lot farther we can fall into the pit depravity.
to me, briefly:

the way it is worse or appears to be worse than previous generations "this is the end" is from the outright blatant cheating that the deepstate did to install obiden. I believe it will happen again with kamalturd too. if/when it does can you imagine the bullshit she(her puppet masters) will get away with? Ten fold worse than the last 4 years.
 
That video link I posted was from 6 months ago. The following opinion is from him 5 weeks ago: Tin foil hat time? We will see how his prediction ages and soon.



Let's be very clear of what Ezra Eagle says, it says that Joe Biden will Serve less time than Trump. It then says that feathers #16-17 thought they would rule. But, then the Middle eagle head wakes up and with the help of the right eagle head, it "eats them(#16-17) up. Who are these eagle heads? Clearly, they are the 3 branches of Government. The middle it says is the greatest of them, that would make it the Congress. The One on the right is the Judicial branch. With that being said, please take what I am saying here and pray on it. I worked in DC for years (for an LDS Senator), and in Government for almost 30 years, so I am certain of it: Mike Johnson is the Middle Eagle. Let me explain- In November 2020, Mike Johnson was chosen out of all the possible people in Congress to write the amicus brief that MAGA took to all the states, claiming the electors should not be counted. Even literally, last week, Mike Johnson again remarked that Joe Biden is not really the President and this election was stolen. He swears to believe that. In 2020 he was only a Congressman, now in 2024, he is the Speaker of the House, and the most powerful elected GOP in the world. He is the 3rd most powerful person in the world, only behind the Pres./VP, and he has the power to do something about this 2024 election. So, watch and see: January 20, 2025- Mike Johnson will become the unelected president of the United States of America. On January 3, 2025, he will be sworn into the 119th Congress, as Speaker. January 6th, 2025 Mike Johnson will refuse to yield the floor to the Vice President when she comes to certify the vote count. Thereby, holding the process hostage. Nobody can force him to yield pursuant to the Constitution, nobody can ever force the Speaker of the House to yield the floor/gavel. Everyone, including the President/VP, has to yield to him, but technically, he has to yield to nobody, thus, Mike Johnson will refuse to yield for 14 days claiming, as he did in 2020, that the election was rigged. And, on January 20th, 2025 the Constitution says that if no President or Vice President has been Elected and Certified by the House, that Under US Constitution Article II, Sec. 1, Clause 6, The Emergency Succession Clause, Speaker of the House is the duly ELECTED PRESIDENT. Thus, Mike Johnson will be the Unelected Defacto President on January 20th, 2025. The Supreme Court will assist him, just as it is prophesied. It does not matter who you vote for if the 119th Congress is led by Mike Johnson, then we will watch him do this.
 
Everyone, including the President/VP, has to yield to him, but technically, he has to yield to nobody, thus, Mike Johnson will refuse to yield for 14 days claiming, as he did in 2020, that the election was rigged. And, on January 20th, 2025 the Constitution says that if no President or Vice President has been Elected and Certified by the House, that Under US Constitution Article II, Sec. 1, Clause 6, The Emergency Succession Clause, Speaker of the House is the duly ELECTED PRESIDENT. Thus, Mike Johnson will be the Unelected Defacto President on January 20th, 2025. The Supreme Court will assist him, just as it is prophesied. It does not matter who you vote for if the 119th Congress is led by Mike Johnson, then we will watch him do this.

hmmm
 
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