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There's a lot of fuel out there. Stay safe everyone, fire spreads faster than you think.
 
my son's friend, who I coached in little league, is a FF up on huntington. He was by our cabin this morning and remembered us and sent us this pic when he was going to sleep in shaver, he said, 'you guys are good! Defensible space FTW!' Love that kid, we'd been holding our breath...
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gladman said:
my son's friend, who I coached in little league, is a FF up on huntington. He was by our cabin this morning and remembered us and sent us this pic when he was going to sleep in shaver, he said, 'you guys are good! Defensible space FTW!' Love that kid, we'd been holding our breath...
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Excellent.

Is it near Shaver or Huntington?
 
gladman said:
my son's friend, who I coached in little league, is a FF up on huntington. He was by our cabin this morning and remembered us and sent us this pic when he was going to sleep in shaver, he said, 'you guys are good! Defensible space FTW!' Love that kid, we'd been holding our breath...
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That is great news.

Kicks rocks...............So lets talk about some rental rates when this is over :flipoff2::flipoff2:

I need a go to cabin in Huntington!! :smokin::smokin:
 
Creek Fire sure seems to have been stopped in it tracks. I almost was thinking that sites that are showing it were stuck but its been days now. Some of the remote areas on the map, I know really, really well and there is nothing but endless fuel on the ground and its been stopped from growing according to the maps. Its almost impossible to believe the maps honestly knowing the area.

I am not complaining at all of course. Stopping its southern crawl is vital to saving a ton of homes and structures.

Up in the northeastern border is stopped about 1/4 mile from where my wifes memorial and ashes are. Rather it didn't get through there but if it does, all easily replaced.

Its a hell of a lot cooler for sure. 81 right now @ 4:11 from 111 a few days ago.

I actually had a good amount of dew on my car this morning when I went to work. First time for this season, which I assume is good for the fight up there.

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dntsdad said:
Creek Fire sure seems to have been stopped in it tracks. I almost was thinking that sites that are showing it were stuck but its been days now. Some of the remote areas on the map, I know really, really well and there is nothing but endless fuel on the ground and its been stopped from growing according to the maps. Its almost impossible to believe the maps honestly knowing the area.

I am not complaining at all of course. Stopping its southern crawl is vital to saving a ton of homes and structures.

Up in the northeastern border is stopped about 1/4 mile from where my wifes memorial and ashes are. Rather it didn't get through there but if it does, all easily replaced.

Its a hell of a lot cooler for sure. 81 right now @ 4:11 from 111 a few days ago.

I actually had a good amount of dew on my car this morning when I went to work. First time for this season, which I assume is good for the fight up there.

:angel::angel:
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I wonder if the wind shifted? From what I heard, that's what happened up here with the bear fire, wind basically did a 180, which is obviously about best case scenario.
 
Maybe it has already been asked or is done but, if you know the fire is coming are people considering back burning around their house so the fire is not as big around their place when the main fire comes through?
 
YotaAtieToo said:
I wonder if the wind shifted? From what I heard, that's what happened up here with the bear fire, wind basically did a 180, which is obviously about best case scenario.
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I think after the 180° shift, the ground crews got a few lines cut and have a defensive stand going. That was 2 days ago, and temps have dropped since the labor day weekend from hell as far as 100+ goes.

The northwestern flank remains hot (from viirs imagery) but it has only slightly advanced over the last 48hrs.


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dntsdad said:
Creek Fire sure seems to have been stopped in it tracks. I almost was thinking that sites that are showing it were stuck but its been days now. Some of the remote areas on the map, I know really, really well and there is nothing but endless fuel on the ground and its been stopped from growing according to the maps. Its almost impossible to believe the maps honestly knowing the area.

I am not complaining at all of course. Stopping its southern crawl is vital to saving a ton of homes and structures.

Up in the northeastern border is stopped about 1/4 mile from where my wifes memorial and ashes are. Rather it didn't get through there but if it does, all easily replaced.

Its a hell of a lot cooler for sure. 81 right now @ 4:11 from 111 a few days ago.

I actually had a good amount of dew on my car this morning when I went to work. First time for this season, which I assume is good for the fight up there.

:angel::angel:
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just got a phone call from a person who would know and tonight there is significant concern about the fuel levels and the fire... he thinks it ain't over... i'm just hopeful that they can contain it... I konw they worked hard to keep ti from Bass Lake and Coarsegold and (heaven forbid) Clovis and Fresno, jesus, that would be catastrophic... but he sounded concerned and I believe him.
 
trampas said:
I think after the 180° shift, the ground crews got a few lines cut and have a defensive stand going. That was 2 days ago, and temps have dropped since the labor day weekend from hell as far as 100+ goes.

The northwestern flank remains hot (from viirs imagery) but it has only slightly advanced over the last 48hrs.



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the virs imagery is not a good indicator of fire on the ground. it is so depressing... and it is not about the actual flames on trees... eyes on the ground is the only way to see... if you see big red blobs over your cabin, don't lose hope.
 
When a truck has comp only does that cover fire damage / destruction ?
 
This area here has looked like this for days now from the map. Like I said, I know this area pretty well. The ground is literally covered for fuel that has been there for years. Not only dropped trees and such but most of it is covered in at least a foot of old needles and such

I have a hard time beleving that the fire stopped at those boundaries that are shown but I sure am not there and not a better judge that a satellite so I hoping that I am wrong because.....damn I love that area.

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dntsdad said:
This area here has looked like this for days now from the map. Like I said, I know this area pretty well. The ground is literally covered for fuel that has been there for years. Not only dropped trees and such but most of it is covered in at least a foot of old needles and such

I have a hard time beleving that the fire stopped at those boundaries that are shown but I sure am not there and not a better judge that a satellite so I hoping that I am wrong because.....damn I love that area.
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Ever raked up a foot of pine needles? Only like 2" is remotely dry. Same thing with logs on the ground, they get so wet from being covered in snow half the year, I'd have to wonder how well they would really burn?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think rotting trees and pine needles wouldn't be as bad as thick brush.
 
PAE said:
When a truck has comp only does that cover fire damage / destruction ?
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do you really mean comprehensive or do you mean something else. Comprehensive is, well, comprehensive...which means 'everything'...

if you mean liability, then, no.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
Ever raked up a foot of pine needles? Only like 2" is remotely dry. Same thing with logs on the ground, they get so wet from being covered in snow half the year, I'd have to wonder how well they would really burn?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think rotting trees and pine needles wouldn't be as bad as thick brush.
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There is a lot of the overgrown, thich brush as well. I was up there two weekends ago, walking all over the area, and it was all pretty dry. I was just telling my buddy that I can't believe this hasn't burned with all the people that travel that Red Mountain road on the map in the circle.

I assume that Tamarrak Lodge is gone? Anyone from our area know anything. That would be a shame. Nice people.

All those custom homes right behind it?
 
YotaAtieToo said:
Ever raked up a foot of pine needles? Only like 2" is remotely dry. Same thing with logs on the ground, they get so wet from being covered in snow half the year, I'd have to wonder how well they would really burn?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think rotting trees and pine needles wouldn't be as bad as thick brush.
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We’re not allowed to talk about these things here. You made the rule.
 
dntsdad said:
There is a lot of the overgrown, thich brush as well. I was up there two weekends ago, walking all over the area, and it was all pretty dry. I was just telling my buddy that I can't believe this hasn't burned with all the people that travel that Red Mountain road on the map in the circle.

I assume that Tamarrak Lodge is gone? Anyone from our area know anything. That would be a shame. Nice people.

All those custom homes right behind it?
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The lodge is fine. it is standing and undamaged. saw pics of it yesterday...

After the insane heat of the weekend, the high pressure system and smoke have been a natural deterrent to fire growth... it starves the fire of good air... so, while the smoke is a bitch for fire fighters and no aircraft can make drops, it also makes the fire slow to a crawl.. that is one reason areas with tons of fuel are not going off...

in 2 or 3, that is shifting to low pressure, when that happens it will clear the air, make it available for airdrops etc but also introduce instability to the fire... so, still lots of uncertainty...

Tamarack lodge is still very much intact.
 
gladman said:
the virs imagery is not a good indicator of fire on the ground. it is so depressing... and it is not about the actual flames on trees... eyes on the ground is the only way to see... if you see big red blobs over your cabin, don't lose hope.
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I'm aware, the imagery is just that... imagery. I've been scouring the net every day for text data to confirm what they're doing towards Yosemite. Air drops are mentioned a little bit but moreover they are saying ground equipment is getting lines cut and held with the slowing from "heavy inversion" as they put it. That part, I believe more so than satellites, which they stipulate are indicators of heat, not necessarily burned areas.
 
trampas said:
I'm aware, the imagery is just that... imagery. I've been scouring the net every day for text data to confirm what they're doing towards Yosemite. Air drops are mentioned a little bit but moreover they are saying ground equipment is getting lines cut and held with the slowing from "heavy inversion" as they put it. That part, I believe more so than satellites, which they stipulate are indicators of heat, not necessarily burned areas.
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the smoke has kept them from flying, so it is a dozer fire and hand crews. They are working to save structures in the Arnold Meadows area, but their resources are strained to bolster the south end (keep it from running into town) and all the cabins. In the briefing last night, they are getting the grazing cattle out of the north end and I think they are going to let that burn. they have a briefing every night at 7pm www.facebook.com/sierranf it is 30 minutes and full of detail.
 
looks like the 747 (GST944) was in route from McClellan but turned around just south of Yosemite
DC10, MD-87 are currently heading north out of San Bernardino. think they are heading to the Castle fire

August Complex is now 875K acres 25% contained
Creek is about 200K 6% contained
 
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Dont know what is means, if anything, but there is a LOT more ash on the cars this morning that the past week or so. Probably 10x as much.

My pool also has a good layer of ash on it and the pump shuts off at 5am so that is all since then.

I haven't seen just floating ash in the air like snow like this morning either.

Maybe just a shifting of the winds or an esacapation in the fire? Maps seems to be holding in place for days now like I said above. Also, like I said above, I am not buying that some of those areas are no expanding like the northeast side of the Creek Fire and also that Bullfrog Fire as well. I would be more than happy to be wrong and the maps are correct though!!
 
dntsdad said:
Dont know what is means, if anything, but there is a LOT more ash on the cars this morning that the past week or so. Probably 10x as much.

My pool also has a good layer of ash on it and the pump shuts off at 5am so that is all since then.

I haven't seen just floating ash in the air like snow like this morning either.

Maybe just a shifting of the winds or an esacapation in the fire? Maps seems to be holding in place for days now like I said above. Also, like I said above, I am not buying that some of those areas are no expanding like the northeast side of the Creek Fire and also that Bullfrog Fire as well. I would be more than happy to be wrong and the maps are correct though!!
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I noticed that too. I'm ready for this to be done.
 
The inversion and heavy smoke layer is what seems to be the reason behind the "stall" at the Creek Fire. It's buffered the wind, lowered the temps for the ground crews to create lines (using whatever topographic barriers such as granite outcrops, fire roads etc) so to see it stagnate like it's been is a good good thing. The downside is fewer air drops due to visibility issues. But they do stress that in the higher elevations (especially in Madera county) that when the smoke begins to clear out because of the winds returning, it could move explosively fast again. This is me projecting from the standpoint of the northwestern flank.
 
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