Anyone know JCB telehandlers? Steering problems....

[arse_sidewards]

You also have to consider the difference between fixing it well enough to work and well enough to work on a job site where there's a nonzero percent chance of the $5k lift costing you $100k in fines because someone's having a bad day. I can absolutely see them not wanting to mess with it for a few days to still only get a few thousand bucks because the rest of its too ugly for ~company~ to vinyl their name on the side of it.

Sometimes you just have to kick the can to the home gamers

It was worth it before the competent guy keeled over.

 

[WTF?]

because the rest of its too ugly for ~company~ to vinyl their name on the side of it.

Sometimes you just have to kick the can to the home gamers

I dunno what corner of fantasy land you live in, but a telehandler in too-rough condition for use in a residential construction site application flat-out does not exist in the greater southeast.
If it runs and the amount of fluid it leaks in a day is measured in quarts and not gallons, its considered jobsite ready by somebody's crew in the area.

 

[Tin Roof]

We've been over this. If I were doing something that had a much lower pay ceiling working for someone else I'd consider it but as it stands I'd have to be pretty stupid to raise all that capital to start a business just to work 80hr a week for the next dozen years while making about what I'm currently making.

Or most likely because you are an armchair quarterback.

 

[WTF?]

We've been over this. If I were doing something that had a much lower pay ceiling working for someone else I'd consider it but as it stands I'd have to be pretty stupid to raise all that capital to start a business just to work 80hr a week for the next dozen years while making about what I'm currently making.

If you can't make double whatever you're currently making working for yourself 80+hrs a week within 5 yrs, either the business is not worth entering or it's mismanaged.
(i don't need specifics because this is pretty much a universal truth as long as your annual 6 figure base wage doesn't start with at minimum a 2 or higher, in your regional economic market, and based on working hard for 80+hrs on an consistent and ongoing basis in your selected self-run business.)

All business hours have to work crazy hours at some point or another, but it shouldn't be ak nate hours 364 days a yr after year 1-2 .

 

[Landslide]

I would recommend staying away from anything JCB as their equipment is unreliable and hard to get parts for.

I bought two skytracks for our company last year. The JCB sales rep called me wanted to sell equipment to me and was upset when I wouldn’t even let him quote anything.

 

[arse_sidewards]

If you can't make double whatever you're currently making working for yourself 80+hrs a week within 5 yrs, either the business is not worth entering or it's mismanaged. (i don't need specifics because this is pretty much a universal truth as long as your annual 6 figure wage doesn't start with a 2 or higher, in your regional economic market, and based on working hard for 80+hrs on an consistent and ongoing basis .)

That's the thing. If I wanted to put in that kind of effort I'd be better off focusing it into my current line of work. If I wanted to job hop I'd probably have already hit the "six digits starting with a 2" range by now or would be damn close. From there I could wind up being a partial owner of something if I wanted to but why, I don't aspire to work hard and make 300-500k. I aspire to work little, have 200k and spend my free time having fun.

It would take complete insanity to make starting a business in a different industry pencil out at this point.

 

[1Sinner]

I still haven't found much info on this particular machine. I'll likely have to pony up a couple hundred bucks for a bootleg copy of the service manual once I get it in my possession. The little bit I have seen, it looks like it does have a sensor for centering, but nothing auto about. I'm guessing it just feeds a light to tell you its centered and/or tells the computer that it's centered and to engage whatever steer mode you selected.

The Centering sensor is just that. You put the switch in whatever mode you want, steer the machine til it centers and tells that little black box it's in the right spot, and it locks or releases the axle to do whatever the switch told it to do. Only problem is, the rears won't steer without a working steering module box, they'll be stuck at whatever angle they're currently at until it's replaced

 

[WTF?]

That's the thing. If I wanted to put in that kind of effort I'd be better off focusing it into my current line of work. If I wanted to job hop I'd probably have already hit the "six digits starting with a 2" range by now or would be damn close. From there I could wind up being a partial owner of something if I wanted to but why, I don't aspire to work hard and make 300-500k. I aspire to work little, have 200k and spend my free time having fun.

It would take complete insanity to make starting a business in a different industry pencil out at this point.

Well you miss the point that a properly established and managed business can be delegated and minimally supervised with less than 40 hrs a week worth of effort to deliver that kind of income beyond yr 5 or so.

But entering that venture will likely require risking about everything you've got and no judgement here; I know i haven't found the right opportunity that i felt confident enough to lay out that level of risk myself. But no denying the big gambles can pay out big dividends.

 

[arse_sidewards]

Well you miss the point that a properly established and managed business can be delegated and minimally supervised with less than 40 hrs a week worth of effort to deliver that kind of income beyond yr 5 or so.

But when you start looking at the capital investment it takes to get there there's probably better options for the risk involved. The risk reward for that shit just doesn't make sense unless you're risking it all and will be hands on. But risking it all doesn't make sense in the first place unless you have very little to start with.

Remember, a huge fraction of this shit goes tits up after a few years leaving the owners with less than nothing.

It's almost like all those financial products that existing to abstract this shit away exist for a reason and you never see people in career fields that can make tons of money without that investment and risk starting businesses for a reason.

 

[WTF?]

But when you start looking at the capital investment it takes to get there there's probably better options for the risk involved. The risk reward for that shit just doesn't make sense unless you're risking it all and will be hands on. But risking it all doesn't make sense in the first place unless you have very little to start with.

Remember, a huge fraction of this shit goes tits up after a few years leaving the owners with less than nothing.

It's almost like all those financial products that existing to abstract this shit away exist for a reason and you never see people in career fields that can make tons of money without that investment and risk starting businesses for a reason.

Thats the Employee mindset your corporate overlords desired to instill in order to keep their hamsters on their wheels....

 

[rockota]

That's the thing. If I wanted to put in that kind of effort I'd be better off focusing it into my current line of work. If I wanted to job hop I'd probably have already hit the "six digits starting with a 2" range by now or would be damn close. From there I could wind up being a partial owner of something if I wanted to but why, I don't aspire to work hard and make 300-500k. I aspire to work little, have 200k and spend my free time having fun.

It would take complete insanity to make starting a business in a different industry pencil out at this point.

But you're the smartest person ever... so you should be able to make bank by correcting the mistakes of every single business owner out there... thus working smarter, not harder... and proving everyone that you're correct.

 

[arse_sidewards]

But you're the smartest person ever... so you should be able to make bank by correcting the mistakes of every single business owner out there... thus working smarter, not harder... and proving everyone that you're correct.

I don't think I've ever even claimed to be smart.

That's just something you boomers came up with.

 

[CarterKraft]

Anyone that doesn't start their own business is just scared, the end.

 

[rockota]

I don't think I've ever even claimed to be smart.

That's just something you boomers came up with.

7595 other posts here show the highlighted to be a lie....

 

[IH Man]

You also have to consider the difference between fixing it well enough to work and well enough to work on a job site where there's a nonzero percent chance of the $5k lift costing you $100k in fines because someone's having a bad day. I can absolutely see them not wanting to mess with it for a few days to still only get a few thousand bucks because the rest of its too ugly for ~company~ to vinyl their name on the side of it.

Sometimes you just have to kick the can to the home gamers

Yep. It's called "liability" and it's a serious thing to consider.

 

[Clemson13]

If you can't make double whatever you're currently making working for yourself 80+hrs a week within 5 yrs, either the business is not worth entering or it's mismanaged.
(i don't need specifics because this is pretty much a universal truth as long as your annual 6 figure base wage doesn't start with at minimum a 2 or higher, in your regional economic market, and based on working hard for 80+hrs on an consistent and ongoing basis in your selected self-run business.)

All business hours have to work crazy hours at some point or another, but it shouldn't be ak nate hours 364 days a yr after year 1-2 .

And if it already starts with 2, gives almost 50PTO days / yr, + a pension & 401k, usually only work 40-50 hr/wk......then there is some mighty high risk there vs continuing to upskill in the current field and making the starting pay start with a 3 or 4 and not have to work 80hrs a week and possibly fail (Like most small businesses do)

White collar work can be pretty frigging sweet if you get into the right big hellish cooperate companies and are in the middle or higher ranks.

Even if they dont deliver job satisfaction.

I dont always see Arses point....but on this one I kind of do (Knowing what industry he is in, in a cush white collar role)

Anyone that doesn't start their own business is just scared, the end.

Im not going to challenge that. I havent ever had a business idea that I was passionate about enough to even considering getting off the current gravy train for. I would rather fly than do my job.......

 

[IH Man]

Starting your own business/company is hard.

So hard I've done it twice.

 

[WTF?]

And if it already starts with 2, gives almost 50PTO days / yr, + a pension & 401k, usually only work 40-50 hr/wk......then there is some mighty high risk there vs continuing to upskill in my current field and making the starting pay start with a 3 or 4 and not have to work 80hrs a week and possibly fail (Like most small businesses do)

White collar work can be pretty frigging sweet if you get into the right big hellish cooperate companies and are in the middle or higher ranks. Even if they dont deliver job satisfaction.

defensive much?
Management Consultancy isn't a real job, ( edit: holdup- you fawkin guys really get 10 weeks of vacay / sick time along with your 200k base salary!?!?!?!) you guys get paid obscene money to do essentially what arse is doing, but with a little more collegiate knowledge base, and about the same amount of (in)experience in whatever business you're telling someone how to do more better. .

And I never said there's nothing to be said for riding the corporate gravy train, but there's no doubt you're leaving money on the table for taking the ride on that train.
And any consulting firm is one major scandal away from starting over with a rebrand (enron/worldcom) or a private equity group acquisition and efficiency squeeze to "just replace the middle 50% of salaried guys with entry level graduates" {or 3rd world outsourcing to countries with cuisine we like to eat an cheap workers who got an online MBA.} squeezing you out the door and networking back into the gravy with another former competitor firm.
But I doubt many of your obscenely compensated consultant coworker buddies are spending any of their 10 weeks of pto visiting the scrapyard regularly in their rusty lesbaru that cost less to purchase than the last steakhouse client dinner you put on your company amex.

Im not going to challenge that. I havent ever had a business idea that I was passionate about enough to even considering getting off the current gravy train for. I would rather fly than do my job.......

yup, I haven't found that opportunity to be willing to put my whole net worth on black or red either. but the entrepreneurial spirit guys can do it repetitively until they eventually hit paydirt on one of those bets.

 

[Dethmachinefab]

Yep. It's called "liability" and it's a serious thing to consider.

It's why you don't sticker or keep sketchy equipment on your books.

 

[arse_sidewards]

It's why you don't sticker or keep sketchy equipment on your books.

Regardless, unless you're in some industry that's chock full of strict liability case law (you are because food, Panzer is because mining, most people aren't) you probably won't wind up getting stuck with the bill unless you actually did something negligent and deserve it.

"It was old but working fine when it left our shop, we noticed nothing amiss about it" isn't negligent no matter how much the internet retards screech about it.

 

[Clemson13]

defensive much?
Management Consultancy isn't a real job, ( edit: holdup- you fawkin guys really get 10 weeks of vacay / sick time along with your 200k base salary!?!?!?!) you guys get paid obscene money to do essentially what arse is doing, but with a little more collegiate knowledge base, and about the same amount of (in)experience in whatever business you're telling someone how to do more better. .

I mean....you have to be defensive of a made up, not real at all job that you need to keep existing

2 company weeks off, 6 weeks of vacation, and then the holidays sprinkled in if you take it all its almost impossible to hit your performance metrics without working more than 45/wk. But ill be damned if I dont use every min of it.

And any consulting firm is one major scandal away from starting over with a rebrand (enron/worldcom) or a private equity group acquisition and efficiency squeeze to "just replace the middle 50% of salaried guys with entry level graduates" {or 3rd world outsourcing to countries with cuisine we like to eat an cheap workers who got an online MBA.} squeezing you out the door and networking back into the gravy with another former competitor firm.

Wait.....have you worked in the industry before? Too many facts were just dropped

And I never said there's nothing to be said for riding the corporate gravy train, but there's no doubt you're leaving money on the table for taking the ride on that train.

yup, I haven't found that opportunity to be willing to put my whole net worth on black or red either. but the entrepreneurial spirit guys can do it repetitively until they eventually hit paydirt on one of those bets.

I wished either the SO or I had that entrepreneurial spirit. Instead we are both wage slaves. I know that the way to work this industry without being at a big firm is to work your ass off, stand up a small competitor to the big firms dealing with medium sized clients, get bought out by the big firm, stay till your retention bonuses end, then retire or do it again. But im too big of a bitch to try that.

But I doubt many of your obscenely compensated consultant coworker buddies are spending any of their 10 weeks of pto visiting the scrapyard regularly in their rusty lesbaru that cost less to purchase than the last steakhouse client dinner you put on your company amex.

They spend all their time lighting money on fire on Safaris, beach vacations, crypto trading, cars, houses, & golf so they are always living paycheque to paycheque and have to keep hustling to pay the bills Not only that, but they dont have pimp machinery & heavy equipment like Bigadian, Deathmachine, Panzer, and Arse. I think most of my cowerkers lives are the definition of the Joneses hellscape.

Its toxic but the perks keep you around until you hate yourself and either quit or kill yourself through stress and substance abuse.

 

[Clemson13]

I don't think I've ever even claimed to be smart.

That's just something you boomers came up with.

You have a high paying job you dont have to work long hours att that doesn't destroy your body...

That is smart.

Then you can break your body manhandling a massive lathe into the back of a decrepid subaru at home instead

 

[bgaidan]

And so it begins.

The seller assured me it would be no problem getting it loaded and unloaded. The trucking company just called and said they were having a hell of a time loading it and ended up using two forklifts and the driver was very worried that I won't be able to unload it with the ramps on his trailer.

I called the seller, he called his guys and then called me back and said they're going to get the wheels straight so it can be driven straight off the trailer....and then I guess it's my problem.

Should be a fun afternoon.

My backup plan is to have my plug kit on hand (I hope they're all AN fittings) and I'll get the rear straight and just disconnect and plug the hoses and hope they'll bypass during the short trip off the trailer and in to my yard.

 

[WTF?]

p.s. Where is this shop located in case someone were interested in the redhead green saturn Lull?

And so it begins.

The seller assured me it would be no problem getting it loaded and unloaded. The trucking company just called and said they were having a hell of a time loading it and ended up using two forklifts and the driver was very worried that I won't be able to unload it with the ramps on his trailer.

I called the seller, he called his guys and then called me back and said they're going to get the wheels straight so it can be driven straight off the trailer....and then I guess it's my problem.

so.... you're gonna dm me where a guy could maybe pickup his own redhead green saturn telehandler after they load yours up or what?

 

[bgaidan]

so.... you're gonna dm me where a guy could maybe pickup his own redhead green saturn telehandler after they load yours up or what?

Missed that. I'll shoot you a message with the details. Just make sure you have a crane on standby for the delivery.

 

[arse_sidewards]

Can you have them back it into your garage and then just pick it off with your lift?

 

[bgaidan]

Can you have them back it into your garage and then just pick it off with your lift?

It's a 53' step deck...

 

[bgaidan]

If I want to get really sketchy, I could get both of my 6k forklifts and pick it from both sides and then lower it down, but I'm not sure they could do it at that reach. I'm hoping one 6k has enough ass to pick up the rear tires and sideshift it over if needed thought.

 

[ThePanzerFuhrer]

Rookie

 

[arse_sidewards]

If I want to get really sketchy, I could get both of my 6k forklifts and pick it from both sides and then lower it down, but I'm not sure they could do it at that reach. I'm hoping one 6k has enough ass to pick up the rear tires and sideshift it over if needed thought.

Can you pick it up with both lifts and the forks above and the load dangling from (preferably long) chains? That should make putting it down way less sketch to put down.