Exactly. Those events were 30 years ago. Most today either don't remember them, or only know what they read online about them. Or remember but it's been long enough that their memory is not accurate. Someone like AJ with a large online platform could start propaganda today saying that waco was actually a compound of foreign terrorists and not American nationals and plenty of people would believe it. When the truth as I remember it (vividly remember watching it on TV and have read several accounts from former members) is that Koresh was a piece of shit cult leader that raped young women and the gov went full retard when they raided the place and caused unnecessary deaths.
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Alex Jones vs feds standoff
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billybob_81067
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Why bulldoze anything at all? Patch a few holes in the drywall and mop up some blood and open it back up like any sane person would do. Anything more is a fucking knee jerk emotional reaction.
east_beast
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I honestly don't think that has as much to do with covering up some fake crisis false flag as much as it just speaks to increased emotionally charged decision making and urge to virtue signal.
arse_sidewards
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It's like people are hellbent on "letting the terrorists win".
Roc Doc
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Your neighbor is full of shit.
SanDiegoCJ
Non-Lemming
I bet his neighbor also claimed he saw Elvis at the mall last year.
blakes
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perhaps
The thing is he was saying this immediately after it happened.
I never knew him to lie or be a part of any conspiracy or anything like that.
Waco made the news big. Huge. A lot of us watched it burn prime time. Ruby Ridge not so much. Same Fed shooter at both locations.
In the howling swarm of free speech, I am allowed to ask -
Has anyone offed Lon Horiuchi yet ?
Roc Doc
2A SNBI
I went into this in great detail at the other place. I worked a conference of Homicide Investigators several years in a row, and one case study was on the Sandy Hook shooting. This was not a press conference, but a closed door presentation of active HI's for other HI's, sharing experiences and techniques both good and bad. Another year they presented the Christopher Dorner case, and another the Grim Sleeper. For someone not in that world, I found it fascinating and sobering, and that the guys that were 40 looked like they were 50, and they guys that were 45 looked like they were 65, it's fascinating, but I couldn't do it for any length of time.
Anyway, it came down to Adam Lanza killing his mother with a .22 rifle, destroying the hard drive on his computer, loading up with an AR15, two pistols and a shotgun, (which was left in the car and not used in the attack). Walking up to the locked, (SOP for that school), front door and shooting out the adjoining window, shot the school principal and the school psychologist. The school intercom was used to alert the presence of an active shooter, and 911 was called. The whole shooting took less than 6 minutes, and the first on scene police could still hear rifle shots, and were able to find the classroom where he was and he had taken his own life with one of the handguns. The response time was very rapid, a matter of 5 minutes or less.
The school had a protocol in place, and teachers were locking and barricading doors, but obviously it wasn't enough. I don't know how you effectively harden all the schools, but I do think armed school police is a good idea, as these crazy's all seem to be sane enough to go on these rampages where they know they won't get return fire.
The big problem is not guns, or hardening schools, it's mental illness and/or the treatment of such.
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ugh, that guy again?
that babby dead
Lon Horiuchi is dead ? You sure ?
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ugh, that guy again?
yup there was a bunch of hubub about "he died pf old age peacefully with his family, all you loudmouth retards wouldn't even stand yourselves up to take a piss"Lon Horiuchi is dead ? You sure ?
or at least that's what I remember
I havent found any evidence that he is dead. I think babby lives
Found fascnating read on the Ruby Ridge State of Idahovs USA while verifying lonny boy.
www.famous-trials.com
Found fascnating read on the Ruby Ridge State of Idahovs USA while verifying lonny boy.
State of Idaho v. Lon T Horiuchi
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Roc Doc
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HI's said that local PD had to post officers in the neighborhoods to
It was the choice of the community, I'm sure not everyone wanted to do it, but enough did that they went ahead and razed it. I grew up in a small community like that, and I can only imagine what it would have been like to be there, everyone knew someone that was directly affected. It will take a couple generations for all that direct pain to go away.
And local PD had to post officers in neighborhoods to keep the looky-loos, scumbag reporters, and conspiracy hacks from invading their personal privacy, as in residents were posting "No interviews. No Trespassing" signs in their front yards and were still getting harassed. AJ had at least a part in that.
It was the choice of the community, I'm sure not everyone wanted to do it, but enough did that they went ahead and razed it. I grew up in a small community like that, and I can only imagine what it would have been like to be there, everyone knew someone that was directly affected. It will take a couple generations for all that direct pain to go away.
And local PD had to post officers in neighborhoods to keep the looky-loos, scumbag reporters, and conspiracy hacks from invading their personal privacy, as in residents were posting "No interviews. No Trespassing" signs in their front yards and were still getting harassed. AJ had at least a part in that.
No. I agree with protecting speech i dont like. I think we all do. I was trying to present to you a scenario that crossed the line. A line that you personally would enforce. I think I was quite clear on that. But I didn't see you answer my question directly and I would like to hear from you about it.It is irrelevant whre the Sandy Hook victims are buried or cremated. I never paid any attnetion to Alex Jones, I did not know who he was, and I am thankful for that. The old adage is that you cant yell fire in a crowded theater. The new one is . . . .. people are sued for slander all the time. With the subject ass clown, I see sensationalism and lies, outright lies at virtually every turn. When there is a request to cease, and the perpetrator amplifies his antagonism, and that hurts, damages innocent women and cildren, then the line is blatantly crossed. Fuck Aex Jones. He abused the freedom we have, and begged, beggged to have his ass kicked.
Wish granted.
how do you know what i would personally enforce? just because i dont like something doesnt mean there isnt some loudmouth somewhere who i can ignore. its not like he is some dude at a BBQ who is running his mouth.
and maybe, if i felt passionately enough about the subject i would reach out to the guy and tell him to cut it out but to want to use the government to silence someone is not in the same realm.
i thought my simple initial reply said what i meant.
i thought Lon was hiding away in Hawaii and keeping his head down because he shot a woman holding a baby.
Texas, for an engineer that response is a fail on a binary issue. You did not answer my question so I'll just drop it but you evaded twice and I dont think you realize it. I'll take a simple Yes or a no. No multiple choice or essay 
" if that was your family buried there, and this clown did what the plaintiffs allege, would you be singing your tune ?"
I will be clear. If you and your family were survivors of Sandy Hook, but your son was gunned down there, and you and your surviving family ended up on the receiving end of calls, internet stalking and doxing, threats made to your family as a result of AJ. . . . .. . and AJ went on making money after admitting he knew his claims were lies, would you join the lawsuit ? I go to this length becuase it is truly hard to stand by your convictions all the time. You or anyone.
I'll take a yes or a no.
" if that was your family buried there, and this clown did what the plaintiffs allege, would you be singing your tune ?"
I will be clear. If you and your family were survivors of Sandy Hook, but your son was gunned down there, and you and your surviving family ended up on the receiving end of calls, internet stalking and doxing, threats made to your family as a result of AJ. . . . .. . and AJ went on making money after admitting he knew his claims were lies, would you join the lawsuit ? I go to this length becuase it is truly hard to stand by your convictions all the time. You or anyone.
I'll take a yes or a no.
Texas, for an engineer that response is a fail on a binary issue. You did not answer my question so I'll just drop it but you evaded twice and I dont think you realize it. I'll take a simple Yes or a no. No multiple choice or essay
" if that was your family buried there, and this clown did what the plaintiffs allege, would you be singing your tune ?"
I will be clear. If you and your family were survivors of Sandy Hook, but your son was gunned down there, and you and your surviving family ended up on the receiving end of calls, internet stalking and doxing, threats made to your family as a result of AJ. . . . .. . and AJ went on making money after admitting he knew his claims were lies, would you join the lawsuit ? I go to this length becuase it is truly hard to stand by your convictions all the time. You or anyone.
I'll take a yes or a no.
would i let it go? yes. Blow hards are blow hards. that guy can speak his mind. as far as i know, he isnt telling anyone to threaten families or harrass them.
would i prosecute or go after the ACTUAL people who were threatening/stalking me and my family? yes, i would.
but no one has shown any evidence that happened. there should be a slew of restraining orders, logged death threats etc. i have seen none of that.
Thank you. I dont really know the extent of the stalking and harrassment either. And I dont know what AJ actually said as it pertains to stalking and harrassing. I also shouldn't assume to know how you would react, point taken. For that litigation to have succeeded there must have been some substance 
gunracer1
Collector of fine junk
just like trumps trials?Thank you. I dont really know the extent of the stalking and harrassment either. And I dont know what AJ actually said as it pertains to stalking and harrassing. I also shouldn't assume to know how you would react, point taken. For that litigation to have succeeded there must have been some substance
im not saying you're wrong or its a conspiracy but ive sat through similar dissection of the twin towers falling. take that for what its worth
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You can take the piece of shit liberal out of the city but just can't take the city out of a piece of shit liberal.
You realize that you freedom of speech allows you to yell "Fire" in a theater. If only there was a way to look up information to be accurate in the statements that you make. Like a web of information, that was world wide. Oh hell, I know a better name for it, the World Wide Web!No. I agree with protecting speech i dont like. I think we all do. I was trying to present to you a scenario that crossed the line. A line that you personally would enforce. I think I was quite clear on that. But I didn't see you answer my question directly and I would like to hear from you about it.
Wish granted.
Gbkeith
El Western Motel
No, they promoted his ass.
Projectjunkie
Whatever
There's a guy named Jim (James) Fetzer who wrote a book called "nobody died at sandy hook"
Looks like there's one copy on French ebay for $295, one on Amazon used for $200 and one somewhere else for $100
I was able to download it somewhere and started reading it on a plane, it was very well done and had citations. I'll look for my digital copy, it seems to have been scrubbed from the net.
The guy made a compelling case.
He was also sued and forced to pay 450k. Some may see that as clearly he was lying. These days that seems like he's over the target
ISBN 9780692644171
Looks like there's one copy on French ebay for $295, one on Amazon used for $200 and one somewhere else for $100
I was able to download it somewhere and started reading it on a plane, it was very well done and had citations. I'll look for my digital copy, it seems to have been scrubbed from the net.
The guy made a compelling case.
He was also sued and forced to pay 450k. Some may see that as clearly he was lying. These days that seems like he's over the target
The veteran you are trying to quack on served active combat duty in the USN in the Viet Nam war. So he has been out of the city before.
