2nd Gen Dodge Ram 2500 Upgrades.

[Grendel]

Anyone done the brake up grades?

Writeup: Upgrading Gen2 brakes to Gen3

www.cumminsforum.com

or swapped Gen 3 axles?

 

[TRINDU]

Finding non-rotted Dodge axles isn't easy here. Yes, my friends David and Rachel Plumley came up with that.

Are you saying that 92-97 F350 outers fit my current 2002 axle? If so, that is new.


combined with this:

Ultimate 2nd Gen Dodge Ram 2500/3500 4X4 Steering Upgrade Package

If your 2nd gen has death wobble, play, wander or other steering issues, this steering kit is the way to fix it, and fix it right. We've used our years of experience with our own trucks and building customer trucks to compile this collection of the absolute best steering parts for 1994, 1995...

www.cjcoffroad.com

and never fuck with it again.

No, why I said buy a 94-99 axle. People damn near give them away, but i guess they're rotted to nothing along with everything else up there.

Synergy is over priced. Just buy the 98-99 HD steering.

Anyone done the brake up grades?

Writeup: Upgrading Gen2 brakes to Gen3

www.cumminsforum.com

or swapped Gen 3 axles?

It's a bolt on affair, last I bought the brackets were ~$25 each on rockauto. Then new calipers. It's the way to go if you need new brakes.

AAM axles gain you nothing.

 

[Grendel]

Why do I want to go backwards in steering angles/linkages?

No, why I said buy a 94-99 axle. People damn near give them away, but i guess they're rotted to nothing along with everything else up there.

Synergy is over priced. Just buy the 98-99 HD steering.



It's a bolt on affair, last I bought the brackets were ~$25 each on rockauto. Then new calipers. It's the way to go if you need new brakes.

AAM axles gain you nothing.

According to that link I posted, I don't need new calipers. They're the same.

 

[TrailTamer]

Why do I want to go backwards in steering angles/linkages?

98-99 “HD” OEM steering is t-inverted

 

[Grendel]

98-99 “HD” OEM steering is t-inverted

That is new to me, too. So less bump steer. Why did they go away with it, then back to it? Dodge is fucked.

Are we sure it will fit my 2001 truck front? They have a different tie rod taper: Years 00-13: have a 9.5 taper

 

[TrailTamer]

Dodge is fucked.

I know, right!

Dodge/Ram finally figured it out in ~2015.

 

[TRINDU]

I know, right!

Dodge/Ram finally figured it out in ~2015.

The 08.5+ is the "upgrade" for the earlier aam trucks.

IIRC. The pitman arm is different on the 01.5-02 trucks to accept the 98HD draglink.

Theres a way to get good steering on the truck for half the price of synergy. It's well documented, I just dont remember the recipe

 

[Grendel]

Theres a way to get good steering on the truck for half the price of synergy. It's well documented, I just dont remember the recipe

I found it:

Napa Part Numbers
269-6096 Drag Link
ES-3496 L Outer T rod end
269-6095 Right Out T Rod end
269-3179 Right Inn T Rod end
269-6099 Right Out T Rod
ES-2012-S Adj Sleve

2002 T style steering upgrade.

Is the Moog DS800981A steering linkage kit a direct bolt in replacement for my 2002 Dodge Ram 2500 with stock suspension? Will I need to grind off...

www.turbodieselregister.com

2nd Generation Y steering system to a 3rd Gen T system

www.cumminsforum.com

Thanks.

Whelp, since my front tires are roasted, and 450.00 a piece, I found 17" Dodge 5 spoke aluminum rims with 35x12.5X17 General Grabbers on them for 800.00. Looking for one rim/tire for a spare. I guess I can clear the bigger brakes too. Might as well go for better rotors and pads.

I am currently running 315/75R16's on factory Dodge aluminum rims. Have 3 that are perfect, 2 that are outer edged... sucks.

Oh and I asked about AAM axles to get the better steering, CAD and rust delete + better brakes. My truck has both ends full of shitty 60's that I feel like I am turd polishing.

I found a 2011 power wagon pair with the e-lockers to boot. Not sure if the link mounts line up with my frame though. I do have a 3rd gen track bar mount welded on the front already.

 

[bradp674]

According to that link I posted, I don't need new calipers. They're the same.

Yes. You need the caliper bracket and rotors as long as you have a 2000 to 2002 axle.

I did it on my 01. It wasn't a huge difference but did help a little with 37s. You also have to run a 17" wheel.

 

[Grendel]

Yes. You need the caliper bracket and rotors as long as you have a 2000 to 2002 axle.

I did it on my 01. It wasn't a huge difference but did help a little with 37s. You also have to run a 17" wheel.

Yeah, I found used 17" wheels with good tires, so that's cheaper than replacing my two roached ones.

Everyone says I need new pads, too... which is odd.

I found all the stuff... and then a powder coated Power Stop kit for 200 more. Wondering if it's worth it?

 

[ParadisePWoffrd]

I know I am a little late, but what about upgrading to a 05+ SD front axle? I am not sure how close it is, but I have seen folks swap the SD steering onto the dodge axles. If spring buckets are similar width, I think it would be fairly easy to swap.

 

[Grendel]

I know I am a little late, but what about upgrading to a 05+ SD front axle? I am not sure how close it is, but I have seen folks swap the SD steering onto the dodge axles. If spring buckets are similar width, I think it would be fairly easy to swap.

I was talking with PIG from Synergy/Poly yesterday about this.

I don't think they're the same width at the spring buckets, but it's something I am going to look into, in a bit. I plan to keep this truck.

1969 Chevy K20 - 2010 F350 4x4 running gear - Common...

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If I did that I'd swap in the matching rear axle too. I have a 4.30 E locker pair out back.

For those that are inquiring, I have the shitty rear 60 that eats pinion bearings and leaks like a sieve.

 

[Grendel]

This was a new tire 900 miles ago.

 

[TrailTamer]

900 miles! Wow

 

[Grendel]

900 miles! Wow

Yeah, the upper Moog ball joints that have less than 7K miles are walking around like a 2 bit girl in Vegas.

EMF's are on the UPS truck for delivery today.

 

[Grendel]

Once I have the axles/brakes sorted, I plan to do something about my dash:

3rd gen dash in 2nd gen

www.cumminsforum.com

2nd gen Ram with 4th gen Dash, PIC HEAVY

Wow what is up everyone, very very very long time no post!! Haha i have not been on here in forever. Here recently i set out to start and COMPLETE a 4th gen ram dash swap and the sheer number of requests i have gotten about this is INSANE. I figured i would post up over here since it's...

www.ramforum.com

I have a Geno's dash top and bezel in the truck that squeaks and drives me nuts.

 

[ParadisePWoffrd]

Once I have the axles/brakes sorted, I plan to do something about my dash:

3rd gen dash in 2nd gen

www.cumminsforum.com

2nd gen Ram with 4th gen Dash, PIC HEAVY

Wow what is up everyone, very very very long time no post!! Haha i have not been on here in forever. Here recently i set out to start and COMPLETE a 4th gen ram dash swap and the sheer number of requests i have gotten about this is INSANE. I figured i would post up over here since it's...

www.ramforum.com

I have a Geno's dash top and bezel in the truck that squeaks and drives me nuts.

I currently have a broken bezel in mine, and the replacement dash top squeaks too. Apparently covering and all the duct tape didnt fix it like they said a decade ago... Following cuz I will need a solution at some point.

 

[ParadisePWoffrd]

I was talking with PIG from Synergy/Poly yesterday about this.

I don't think they're the same width at the spring buckets, but it's something I am going to look into, in a bit. I plan to keep this truck.

1969 Chevy K20 - 2010 F350 4x4 running gear - Common...

www.cumminsforum.com

If I did that I'd swap in the matching rear axle too. I have a 4.30 E locker pair out back.

For those that are inquiring, I have the shitty rear 60 that eats pinion bearings and leaks like a sieve.

For some reason, when I click that link or copy&paste, it takes me to a thread about a cummins swapped chevy.

 

[TRINDU]

Once I have the axles/brakes sorted, I plan to do something about my dash:

3rd gen dash in 2nd gen

www.cumminsforum.com

2nd gen Ram with 4th gen Dash, PIC HEAVY

Wow what is up everyone, very very very long time no post!! Haha i have not been on here in forever. Here recently i set out to start and COMPLETE a 4th gen ram dash swap and the sheer number of requests i have gotten about this is INSANE. I figured i would post up over here since it's...

www.ramforum.com

I have a Geno's dash top and bezel in the truck that squeaks and drives me nuts.

All that work, and has still has the column shifter in place

 

[Grendel]

For some reason, when I click that link or copy&paste, it takes me to a thread about a cummins swapped chevy.

I don't know???

This is the link from my post:

3rd gen dash in 2nd gen

www.cumminsforum.com

 

[Grendel]

Turd polishing. 1480 U joints, CAD delete, EMF ball joints, Synergy steering. Fuck the haters, PIG's a friend.

 

[TrailTamer]

Didn’t knew they have that crazy neck-down. Has to be a 00-02 thing. My 97 wasn’t like that.

32 or 35 spline inners?

 

[Grendel]

Didn’t knew they have that crazy neck-down. Has to be a 00-02 thing. My 97 wasn’t like that.

32 or 35 spline inners?

32

With 35" tires, don't care.

 

[Grendel]

So, as I said, have the new EMF ball joints in, along with new Spicer ujoints, plus a CAD delete. Drove it on the old alignment, and oi boy does it not want to return to center... that's with 2 degrees of caster per factory spec... and EMF says: "CASTER SET TO 4.0-5.0 DEGREES AND 0.15-0.2 TOE IN FOR 2000-2013 VEHICLES"

We did also tighten the shit out of Cardone reman'd box that went in 2 years ago.

Got the Synergy steering today FedEx'd today. Will install later today and send it off for alignment.

 

[Grendel]

Dropped the truck for alignment after sticking all the HD and expensive shit in.

The front axle has some major camber issues I hope they can adjust out of the EMF ball joints.

 

[Grendel]

So, right side lower ball joint won't adjust on the vehicle. Have to go back into it.

Also, they call for 4 -5 degrees of caster. Can get 3.4 degrees max with the lower control arm axle side adjuster bolts.

I've seen all the adjustable control arms, I already made my bent ones. Anyone put a second set of adjuster bolts on the upper control arms?

 

[Grendel]

So, I finally got this right, yesterday. Believe it or not, TOO MUCH GREASE caused the joints to bind up.

My son used our electric grease gun and bound them up.

Holy fuck, it's like a new truck.

Now to get it the 4-5 degrees of caster the EMF directions call for.

 

[Talon2006]

That is new to me, too. So less bump steer. Why did they go away with it, then back to it? Dodge is fucked.

Are we sure it will fit my 2001 truck front? They have a different tie rod taper: Years 00-13: have a 9.5 taper

You may have already found out...
But I did this on my 2002.5 and it was a bolt in affair. I had one of the rare 2002+ Non cad axles

 

[Grendel]

You may have already found out...
But I did this on my 2002.5 and it was a bolt in affair. I had one of the rare 2002+ Non cad axles

Yer late to the party, mang.

Already driving this bitch and it was all bolt on, I was just too smart for my own good.

 

[Grendel]

Other than a loose front drive shaft causing a vibe at 25 and 50, it's night and day difference.

80mph is a dream.

Next will be 2005 brakes.