Bible 99-04 Dana 60 & 50 Tech

Yes, they fit 99-04 unit bearings. Not sure if its still true, but when these axles came out it seemed not many people knew this.

Below are the type I am talking about. And if you are still running 30 spline stubs, these will not be the weak link.

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Gunhand1 said:
Close in price to Yukon hardcores :eek:


Do the older hubs fit the 99-04 unit bearings, or do you have to swap over to spindles?

The MM hubs look nice, but the dial is just some kind of plated pot metal


EDIT: started tearing into it tonight, looks like it's not the hub, it twisted the stub right at its base.
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Yes, it looks like yukon basically copied the spicer design with a few improvements. If you could find a set off an earlier kingpin 60 you might score cheap?

Yes the older style hubs fit the unit bearings hubs.

**** i guess no need then...
 
Levigarrett76 said:
Yes, it looks like yukon basically copied the spicer design with a few improvements. If you could find a set off an earlier kingpin 60 you might score cheap?

Yes the older style hubs fit the unit bearings hubs.

**** i guess no need then...
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Spicer design is different. Only similarity is they’re both made of steel and robust.

I got a set of Yukon lockouts from a kingpin axle and there was some parts that I had to get from Yukon to get them to work in 99-04 stuff. Below is picture of the list of parts. Iirc it was small stuff that was different.
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Here’s some photos of Yukon lockouts compared to nitro. Really similar. The brass on Yukon is thicker and machining on the nitros is slightly ****tier. Not enough wouldn’t run them.
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The older pre 99 Dana 60 hubs that work the same as a TTB Dana 50 hub too?

Reason I ask is I used a set of OEM hubs from a 90s F250 on my GM kingpin D60 and they worked fine. So if that's the case in theory they would fit the Superduty axle too right?

2nd reason I bring this up because TTB D50s parts are practically free and abundant near me.
 
Skinny said:
The older pre 99 Dana 60 hubs that work the same as a TTB Dana 50 hub too?

Reason I ask is I used a set of OEM hubs from a 90s F250 on my GM kingpin D60 and they worked fine. So if that's the case in theory they would fit the Superduty axle too right?

2nd reason I bring this up because TTB D50s parts are practically free and abundant near me.
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That is all correct.
 
Not bad for 42. I feel like my inventory of useless knowledge shrinks as I get older. Glad I still have some that is accurate 🤣
 
Did Reid ever make a high steer knuckle for the 99-04 stuff, or has weld on and machined arms been the only options?
 
Rangerrod said:
Here’s some photos of Yukon lockouts compared to nitro. Really similar. The brass on Yukon is thicker and machining on the nitros is slightly ****tier. Not enough wouldn’t run them.
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Just FYI for anyone considering to look for the Nitro, they are defunct now. If you find them don't pay msrp and there is no warranty any longer. If you already have them, if you have a warranty, you no longer do.
 
NDCjeepsmith said:
Just FYI for anyone considering to look for the Nitro, they are defunct now. If you find them don't pay msrp and there is no warranty any longer. If you already have them, if you have a warranty, you no longer do.
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What was the deal? copy’s made in the same factory? Copy right infringement?
 
Anyone have a 3d scan on the steering knuckles? Looking to machine for highsteer arms.
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I have a scan of a knuckle with the artec arm welded on if that's of any help, though it also has the axle in the scan so isn't just a perfectly scanned knuckle.
 
I have both inner and outer scanned. The file type is hard to work with but not impossible! Also very large.
 
Rumor is that instead of the $25 Branik bronze bushing you can use a TH350/700r4 output shaft bushing on the UB's when going 35 spline. I have not verified this myself, but have seen it mentioned lately. Looks like the OD/ID are correct on it, it is just a little long. Guys are knocking it down with a flap disc and calling it good.

Rough measurement of the Branik bushings were 1.625 OD, 1.5" ID and .625" tall. These output shaft bushings are 1.629OD, 1.505" ID and .957" tall. Should work, and they are only a couple of bucks.

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What is the point of the bushing? I think a pair came with my Branik unit bearings and I couldn't for the life of me figure out where they were supposed to go, they either got shelved or thrown out :laughing: I've never had any issues with my RCVs never running a bushing... where ever they should've gone....
 
snivilous said:
What is the point of the bushing? I think a pair came with my Branik unit bearings and I couldn't for the life of me figure out where they were supposed to go, they either got shelved or thrown out :laughing: I've never had any issues with my RCVs never running a bushing... where ever they should've gone....
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It replaces the shaft support bearing "spindle bearing" on the back of the UB . Some companies bore the bearing area out to a larger OD to fit the traditional Dana 60 spindle bearing, but this makes the UB weaker by removing too much material and creates a failure point;. Branik does not enlarge the bearing pocket, instead they use a bronze bushing that is the same OD as the stock UB shaft support bearing. but has a larger ID to allow the use of the 35 spline stubs.
 
snivilous said:
What is the point of the bushing? I think a pair came with my Branik unit bearings and I couldn't for the life of me figure out where they were supposed to go, they either got shelved or thrown out :laughing: I've never had any issues with my RCVs never running a bushing... where ever they should've gone....
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In place of the roller bearing when boring out the 99-04 UB for 35 spline

I imagine it’s adding support to the shaft, if it’s only supported at the inner and outer splines I imagine the joint would want to sag down and push the spline ends of the shaft at a weird angle. Must not be too bad if you’ve been fine without it though. I’d be interested if you threw a pry bar under the bell of the rcv, how much play up and down is there?
 
Big4x4ride said:
It replaces the shaft support bearing "spindle bearing" on the back of the UB . Some companies bore the bearing area out to a larger OD to fit the traditional Dana 60 spindle bearing, but this makes the UB weaker by removing too much material and creates a failure point;. Branik does not enlarge the bearing pocket, instead they use a bronze bushing that is the same OD as the stock UB shaft support bearing. but has a larger ID to allow the use of the 35 spline stubs.
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fl0w3n said:
In place of the roller bearing when boring out the 99-04 UB for 35 spline

I imagine it’s adding support to the shaft, if it’s only supported at the inner and outer splines I imagine the joint would want to sag down and push the spline ends of the shaft at a weird angle. Must not be too bad if you’ve been fine without it though. I’d be interested if you threw a pry bar under the bell of the rcv, how much play up and down is there?
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Huh, I'll have to check for that next time I pull the shafts out. The shafts seem like a pretty tight fit already, and I didn't put the bushing in originally since I didn't see a counter bore in the unit bearing for the bushing, there was no obvious place for it to go.
 
That bushing doesn't do much in a straight line but it's doing a whole lot more when you're applying torque and steering angle at the same time.
 
Coming back around to this.

I have a 2004 F450 SD60 that needs high steer. I have the knuckles out and ready to ship.

Talking with Weaver Fab now - sending them to him.
 

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Grendel said:
Coming back around to this.

I have a 2004 F450 SD60 that needs high steer. I have the knuckles out and ready to ship.

Talking with Weaver Fab now - sending them to him.
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Popping some Ball joints out this weekend and boxing up a knuckle to send him next week myself.
 
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