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Will Trump go to jail?

Will Trump be incarcerated?

  • Yes, he'll be sentenced to spend time in the clink

  • No, but will be on house arrest with limited travel, etc.

  • No, he'll get a suspended sentence or probation.

  • Trump will prevail and all charges will be overturned bigley!

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rockmup said:
I actually don't plan on ever voting again but thanks for your permission.
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Well there is always the I am little crybaby way of dealing with things.

Millions of people do it and then blame everyone else so why not join em I guess.

I will stay over here on the mature, adult side.

Tootles!
 
dntsdad said:
Well there is always the I am little crybaby way of dealing with things.

Millions of people do it and then blame everyone else so why not join em I guess.

I will stay over here on the mature, adult side.

Tootles!
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IMO anyone who is too lazy to vote or uses the same old lame-assed excuse that rockmup used needs to STFU as whatever they say is meaningless.
 
dntsdad said:
Well there is always the I am little crybaby way of dealing with things.

Millions of people do it and then blame everyone else so why not join em I guess.

I will stay over here on the mature, adult side.

Tootles!
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I don't think I've ever seen him blame anyone for anything on this forum.?

That's more a republican thing.



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dntsdad said:
Well there is always the I am little crybaby way of dealing with things.

Millions of people do it and then blame everyone else so why not join em I guess.

I will stay over here on the mature, adult side.

Tootles!
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Aren't you a teacher ? I feel sorry for your students if you think having a conversation and disagreeing is crying but you are in California so it stands to reason that'd be your position.
 
rockmup said:
Aren't you a teacher ? I feel sorry for your students if you think having a conversation and disagreeing is crying but you are in California so it stands to reason that'd be your position.
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Na, I have patience for kids who act like kids.

Adults who act like kids, not so much.

Whatever. I don't really care what you do honestly. Don't whine about shit though if you choose not to participate.
 
45acp said:
I don't think I've ever seen him blame anyone for anything on this forum.?

That's more a republican thing.



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Never said HE did.

What is said was Millions of people do it and then blame everyone else so why not join em I guess.

He can join the others. Whatever. Just doing exactly what the desired outcome is from "them" but every man needs to choose to be a bitch for himself I guess.
 
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babylonbee.com

After Seeing How Much Money Trump Raised, Biden Calls Up DA Bragg To Ask If He Can Get Charged With A Felony Or Two

WASHINGTON, D.C. — With his re-election campaign falling behind his opponent in fundraising, and after seeing how much money Donald Trump raised over the weekend, President Joe Biden called up New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg to ask if he could get charged with a felony or two.
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After Seeing How Much Money Trump Raised, Biden Calls Up DA Bragg To Ask If He Can Get Charged With A Felony Or Two
POLITICS·Jun 3, 2024 · BabylonBee.com

WASHINGTON, D.C. — With his re-election campaign falling behind his opponent in fundraising, and after seeing how much money Donald Trump raised over the weekend, President Joe Biden called up New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg to ask if he could get charged with a felony or two.

The Trump campaign experienced an overwhelming influx of donations in the wake of Trump's conviction on criminal charges in a New York court last week, leading Biden to seek to grow his campaign's coffers by requesting criminal charges of his own.

"Listen up, my negro," Biden reportedly said on the phone with Bragg. "This conviction has been a big boost for Trump. I'm thinking I might be able to get… I could maybe get… I could… I could get… I might have people throwing millions of dollars at me if I get charged with some felonies. None of this hush-money malarkey. Real serious stuff. You should see the list of stuff I've actually done. It'll curl your nose hairs, pal. Bribery. Murder. Trafficking underage broads. The whole deal. Anyway… give me some of those felony charges, will ya?"

District Attorney Bragg's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the report but a source within the DA's office confirmed that fictional crimes would not have to be created in order to charge members of the Biden family.

At publishing time, the White House had called Bragg again to let him know that a new shipment of Hunter's cocaine would be arriving on the premises soon if that would help in drawing felony charges.
 
babylonbee.com

Trump Has Been Convicted - Here Are The 9 Things That Happen Next

The 45th president of the United States is a convicted felon. But what does that even mean? We consulted with American attorney Robert Shapiro to learn what's next for Donald J. Trump.
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Trump Has Been Convicted - Here Are The 9 Things That Happen Next
CRIME·May 31, 2024 · BabylonBee.com

The 45th president of the United States is a convicted felon. But what does that even mean? We consulted with American attorney Robert Shapiro to learn what's next for Donald J. Trump.

Here's what to expect:

  1. Fingerprinted with tiny fingerprint scanner: Because he has tiny hands.
  2. Granted bail prior to sentencing for the amount of "How much you got?": Convenient! That's the exact amount of everything he has!
  3. Given the choice of a regular cell or cell with free wifi and 6" more legroom for a $250 upgrade fee: Maybe Biden can do something about these junk prison fees.
  4. Workers begin to gold plate the prison bars in cell #11B: It's the only prison cell that can hold him.
  5. Paired up with a grizzled Mexican gangster cellmate who becomes his unlikely friend and they solve crimes together: Later, he announces Tolo Rodrigo as his running mate and they get matching teardrop tattoos.
  6. Learns how to make delicious toilet diet coke: Zero sugar!
  7. He fights Samurai as a schoolgirl and destroys a robot army on a train and fights a dragon with a B-25 before we find out it was all a dream sequence and he's been given a lobotomy the whole time: Man, gotta' watch Sucker Punch again.
  8. Trump given opportunity to appeal case on, oh, say November 7: Hey, wait! That's too late!
  9. Sentenced to be confined in the Oval Office for an additional 4 years: Obviously.
And what of his remaining days? Will Trump eventually win the appeal? Will he win the election from within prison, pardon himself and emerge from his cocoon stronger than ever? Only God knows.
 
Drakeslayer said:
need more info, I seem to remember Ford pardoning Nixon who famously stated, "I'm not a crook".
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Nixon was "guilty" of FEDERAL crimes involving election laws and interference. Trump is guilty of state crimes relating to funding and collusion in the state of NY not federal election laws. Yep a real fine line between state and Fed regulations which was why Trump tried unsuccessfully to have the case moved to Fed courts. Now his appeal has to meander thru the NY court system at as leisurely a pace as it did for the case to get to court and be tried. Hence his sentencing being in July with appeals probably not happen until next year.

Now as to pardons from the Fed justice system...only way he can be pardoned is to hit up the Supreme court just like appeals by death row convictions. Only they can pardon the guy...but he still has to admit guilt.
 
WaterH said:
I’ve never heard that you must admit guilt to be pardoned. I don’t think that is law.
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Yep...it is and look it up.
A pardon is an expression of the President's forgiveness and ordinarily is granted in recognition of the applicant's acceptance of responsibility for the crime and established good conduct for a significant period of time after conviction or completion of sentence. It does not signify innocence.Jan 31, 2024

Office of the Pardon Attorney | Frequently Asked Questions​

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Do you have to admit guilt to accept a pardon?​

On Behalf of The Law Office Of Scott M. Davidson | May 18, 2023 | Pardons & Clemency
People sometimes believe that you need to admit you are guilty if you accept a pardon for those alleged crimes. In fact, they may even be hesitant to accept the pardon on these grounds. They don’t want to face civil action afterward, or they don’t want to admit guilt if they feel like they were actually innocent.
But is this how the process works? Recently, a court ruled that accepting a pardon isn’t the same as admitting guilt, and they claim it should not be interpreted that way. Instead, they say that it just implies that the person may be guilty on the grounds that they wouldn’t need a pardon if they weren’t. But that is much different than the admission of guilt. In theory, a person who believed in their own innocence could still accept a pardon.

They would have been convicted​

One thing to keep in mind is that an individual who accepts a pardon would already have been convicted as being guilty, even if they did not admit that guilt themselves. So, using the pardon may not be an admission of guilt, but that is a position the court already holds.
For example, in the story referenced above, a soldier had been accused of murdering two people while fighting in the war in Afghanistan. He had allegedly told his platoon to shoot at a number of civilians, and two of them passed away. He was then convicted in 2013 and given a pardon by President Trump in 2019.

www.justappeals.net

Do you have to admit guilt to accept a pardon?

People sometimes believe that you need to admit you are guilty if you accept a pardon for those alleged crimes. In fact, they may even be hesitant to accept the pardon on these grounds. They don’t want to face civil action afterward, or they don’t want to admit guilt if they feel like they were
www.justappeals.net www.justappeals.net
 
RusM said:
Canada won't let him in. :laughing:
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OMG The thought a foreign country wouldn't let the sitting president with the worlds largest military behind him to cross the border because he was convicted of a crime.:stirthepot:
Kind of like a cartoon I saw back in the 70s two border guards with spears looking up the road as Charlamagne's army with the elephants are coming and one looks at the other and says "You tell them they can't come through!"
It was a full page 4 color I would love to find an unsticky copy of! :flipoff2:
 
DVanVorous said:
Yep...it is and look it up.
A pardon is an expression of the President's forgiveness and ordinarily is granted in recognition of the applicant's acceptance of responsibility for the crime and established good conduct for a significant period of time after conviction or completion of sentence. It does not signify innocence.Jan 31, 2024

Office of the Pardon Attorney | Frequently Asked Questions​

1717519651968.png
United States Department of Justice (.gov)

​

Do you have to admit guilt to accept a pardon?​

On Behalf of The Law Office Of Scott M. Davidson | May 18, 2023 | Pardons & Clemency
People sometimes believe that you need to admit you are guilty if you accept a pardon for those alleged crimes. In fact, they may even be hesitant to accept the pardon on these grounds. They don’t want to face civil action afterward, or they don’t want to admit guilt if they feel like they were actually innocent.
But is this how the process works? Recently, a court ruled that accepting a pardon isn’t the same as admitting guilt, and they claim it should not be interpreted that way. Instead, they say that it just implies that the person may be guilty on the grounds that they wouldn’t need a pardon if they weren’t. But that is much different than the admission of guilt. In theory, a person who believed in their own innocence could still accept a pardon.

They would have been convicted​

One thing to keep in mind is that an individual who accepts a pardon would already have been convicted as being guilty, even if they did not admit that guilt themselves. So, using the pardon may not be an admission of guilt, but that is a position the court already holds.
For example, in the story referenced above, a soldier had been accused of murdering two people while fighting in the war in Afghanistan. He had allegedly told his platoon to shoot at a number of civilians, and two of them passed away. He was then convicted in 2013 and given a pardon by President Trump in 2019.

www.justappeals.net

Do you have to admit guilt to accept a pardon?

People sometimes believe that you need to admit you are guilty if you accept a pardon for those alleged crimes. In fact, they may even be hesitant to accept the pardon on these grounds. They don’t want to face civil action afterward, or they don’t want to admit guilt if they feel like they were
www.justappeals.net www.justappeals.net
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HUH? says in your quote that it's NOT the same as admitting guilt...
 
rockota said:
HUH? says in your quote that it's NOT the same as admitting guilt...
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Legalese verbage...on the one hand you get a pardon saying you don't have to deal with the punishments associated with the crimes you were convicted of in court...by the same token you have to have committed and found guilty of a felony or felonies to get the pardon. So an admission of guilt without admitting it.
 
WaterH said:
That’s what I was thinking. What he posted supported what I said.
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Legalese verbage...on the one hand you get a pardon saying you don't have to deal with the punishments associated with the crimes you were convicted of in court...by the same token you have to have committed and found guilty of a felony or felonies to get the pardon. So an admission of guilt without admitting it.
 
DVanVorous said:
Legalese verbage...on the one hand you get a pardon saying you don't have to deal with the punishments associated with the crimes you were convicted of in court...by the same token you have to have committed and found guilty of a felony or felonies to get the pardon. So an admission of guilt without admitting it.
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That’s a helluva spin!
 
The lunatics in your party are scrambling to stop the train, making up shit along the way.

Fucking banana republic bullshit.
 
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