What's new
By:
Filters
  • Forums will go offline Wednesday Dec 4th at 10AM CST for updates. It's a big update, so the site may be offline for a few hours.

What to do with the homeless

Mikel

Well-known member
Joined
May 20, 2020
Member Number
727
Messages
434
Loc
Conn
Sure, Xi Jingpin would send them all to the gulag, but from a small, limited government point of view, how can we deal with these people?

It is clear that for most of these people, not having a place to live is not their primary problem, which makes the solution so much more difficult. What does IBB sayeth?
 
Mikel said:
Sure, Xi Jingpin would send them all to the gulag, but from a small, limited government point of view, how can we deal with these people?

It is clear that for most of these people, not having a place to live is not their primary problem, which makes the solution so much more difficult. What does IBB sayeth?
Click to expand...
Humans are no different than animals.
Take away the food source/drugs/drug paraphernalia/handouts, they'll go away.

That's what attracted them in the first place; handouts.
 
Mikel said:
Sure, Xi Jingpin would send them all to the gulag, but from a small, limited government point of view, how can we deal with these people?

It is clear that for most of these people, not having a place to live is not their primary problem, which makes the solution so much more difficult. What does IBB sayeth?
Click to expand...
From a minimalist stance, once the church has taken all they can take and the ones who would prefer to die in the gutter have, the rest will flee to areas that offer resources. Like Canada or whatever
 
Mikel said:
Sure, Xi Jingpin would send them all to the gulag, but from a small, limited government point of view, how can we deal with these people?

It is clear that for most of these people, not having a place to live is not their primary problem, which makes the solution so much more difficult. What does IBB sayeth?
Click to expand...
In typical big governed solutions, XI would import them to the cities and prefer to kill loyal citizens through starvation first.

The formerly homeless will take over the jobs formerly occupied by those being re-educated
 
smurfblue40 said:
Soylent green detox lots :idea:
Click to expand...
Just to be used as fertilizers not food.

Screenshot_20231112-191107_Google.jpg
 
Put them through mandatory rehab. Offer those recoverable opportunities to earn their way into a trade or some other avenue of employment. Commit the chronic reoffenders to an institution and hold them there until they either recover and can live on their own or until death. Make them pay their way the whole way through whichever avenue. No free ride. It's menial labor or they can start earning some cash their own way to pay for room and board. If they make it and hold a job for 5 years without a relapse then forgive their loan but reapply it if they ever relapse in the future.

I have sympathy for the poor, but struggle to have any for the addicts.
 
Homelessness will always be a "problem".

What the majority of the problem that we see is the drug problem. It isn't a mental health problem, it isn't a homeless problem it's a fucking drug problem.

Homeless know how to keep clean and keep hidden from the public eye. My little brother was homeless for a while. He worked his job, kept to himself and knew the safe places to sleep.

Hobos did/do the same thing. They move around, work and move around. Nomadic style. I can respect that.

If you support the drug culture, you support the shit show that comes with it.

If you have legitimate mental issues, you need help. Plain and simple. Think halfway house.

FWIW there are a few homeless camps in Portland that when speaking with the residents, they all have jobs and steady incomes, they just choose to live that way because it's cheap. Their lots are clean, shit they even have cars.
 
Russell said:
Put them through mandatory rehab. Offer those recoverable opportunities to earn their way into a trade or some other avenue of employment. Commit the chronic reoffenders to an institution and hold them there until they either recover and can live on their own or until death. Make them pay their way the whole way through whichever avenue. No free ride. It's menial labor or they can start earning some cash their own way to pay for room and board. If they make it and hold a job for 5 years without a relapse then forgive their loan but reapply it if they ever relapse in the future.

I have sympathy for the poor, but struggle to have any for the addicts.
Click to expand...
He said minimal government solution, not 100% government solutions:flipoff2:
 
Mikel said:
It is clear that for most of these people, not having a place to live is not their primary problem, which makes the solution so much more difficult.
Click to expand...

I agree so much with this, I don't think many people really understand that "giving them a place to stay" just won't solve the problem.

It seems like homeless fall into 4 main groups:

1. Those down on their luck
2. Drug addicts
3. Mentally ill/unstable,
4. Those who don't want to fit into society

The first group has every opportunity available to the to start over, housing, food, and job placement is there for the taking.

The same goes for the second group, if they want the help. If they don't, Darwin will take over.

The third group seems to be the hardest, those are the ones that will likely require constant care for the rest of their lives. I know programs are out there for them but are limited and rightly so, they're a big drain on society.

The last group there likely is no help for. They've made their choice, let them live with it as long as their decisions don't cause others harm.
 
How about what we did back in the 80s?
"Move along, sir." says the cop and keep saying it until they are under the bridge or off in the forest.
 
Yota Up said:
How about what we did back in the 80s?
"Move along, sir." says the cop and keep saying it until they are under the bridge or off in the forest.
Click to expand...
The 1880s when heroin was just a tool of foreign wars and cocaine was legal? Works for me.


If we need space in the modern time and a place for homeless to go, let's open up Mexico. Free 40 acres (sizes down due to inflation) for any American if they can homestead and keep control over any territory on Mexico:flipoff2:
 
Because under a bridge is not out of sight.

When shuffle them off when its not off the mortal coil where the problem is actualy solved.

No more homeless peoples if there are no more homeless people.
 
Provience said:
The 1880s when heroin was just a tool of foreign wars and cocaine was legal? Works for me.


If we need space in the modern time and a place for homeless to go, let's open up Mexico. Free 40 acres (sizes down due to inflation) for any American if they can homestead and keep control over any territory on Mexico:flipoff2:
Click to expand...
1:1 trade.
Every immigrant that comes north, a homeless is sent south.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Back Refresh