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Vaccine FAILURE, on every level.

FleshEater said:
Cliffs? I’m not listening to all that blather.
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morticians around the world are finding "new" white clots in peoples veins. something has changed in blood.

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Roktoy829 said:
Is anyone seeing people with neurological issues from the vaccines?
I know of two people who got vaccinated, then later on catch covid, then ended up with neurological issues.
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I did not get vaccinated.

I did (most likely) get Covid very early on. I had a co-worker come back from a vacation in the Orient; he was actually in Wuhan for some sort of festival in November of 2019. About 10 days after he returned "with a cold" I got what I thought was the flu: 102 fever, chest congestion, muscle aches, exhaustion and loss of gustatory & olfactory senses. Took about a month to "fully recover".

It didn't affect my cognitive abilities, but I do think it affected my drive or motivation. Since getting sick, I find that I have to "force" myself to do things (mostly for work) that I never struggled with before. I'm still 100% capable, I just have a lack of motivation.

And if my perception is correct, I think many (most) other people have been affected the same way. I've had many contractors that are scheduled to come do some work, just not show up for the job (no call - no show). I've had contractors come, take a look at the work we have, and then never deliver an estimate. Some give an estimate, set up a schedule, and then not show up. I've had employees on my teams struggle with "getting going" on assignments as well.

I've been trying to figure out if it is Covid, or a side effect from the tyrants turning the world upside down ("New Normal!"), shutting down businesses, masks, social distancing, BS arrows and spots on the grocery store floor, etc... Or is it a combination of both and maybe some neurological programming from our TV's mixed in as well (watch a show on Netflix, and the only thing you want to do when it is done is watch another show).
 
MChat said:
I did not get vaccinated.

I did (most likely) get Covid very early on. I had a co-worker come back from a vacation in the Orient; he was actually in Wuhan for some sort of festival in November of 2019. About 10 days after he returned "with a cold" I got what I thought was the flu: 102 fever, chest congestion, muscle aches, exhaustion and loss of gustatory & olfactory senses. Took about a month to "fully recover".

It didn't affect my cognitive abilities, but I do think it affected my drive or motivation. Since getting sick, I find that I have to "force" myself to do things (mostly for work) that I never struggled with before. I'm still 100% capable, I just have a lack of motivation.

And if my perception is correct, I think many (most) other people have been affected the same way. I've had many contractors that are scheduled to come do some work, just not show up for the job (no call - no show). I've had contractors come, take a look at the work we have, and then never deliver an estimate. Some give an estimate, set up a schedule, and then not show up. I've had employees on my teams struggle with "getting going" on assignments as well.

I've been trying to figure out if it is Covid, or a side effect from the tyrants turning the world upside down ("New Normal!"), shutting down businesses, masks, social distancing, BS arrows and spots on the grocery store floor, etc... Or is it a combination of both and maybe some neurological programming from our TV's mixed in as well (watch a show on Netflix, and the only thing you want to do when it is done is watch another show).
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It’s the effect of the shut downs.

My employees were here every day with very little to do for two years. Everyone got lazy.

Things still aren’t the way they were before so the laziness is lingering.
 
MChat said:
I've been trying to figure out if it is Covid, or a side effect from the tyrants turning the world upside down ("New Normal!"), shutting down businesses, masks, social distancing, BS arrows and spots on the grocery store floor, etc... Or is it a combination of both and maybe some neurological programming from our TV's mixed in as well (watch a show on Netflix, and the only thing you want to do when it is done is watch another show).
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Mental side effect, why keep grinding if they're going to run the ship aground. I fight that daily.

I still smell cig smoke on and off. It sucks. Sometimes its strong enough it makes my eyes water. I have never smoked, nor has anyone smoked in my home or office as long as Ive owned them. crazy.
 
MChat said:
I did not get vaccinated.

I did (most likely) get Covid very early on. I had a co-worker come back from a vacation in the Orient; he was actually in Wuhan for some sort of festival in November of 2019. About 10 days after he returned "with a cold" I got what I thought was the flu: 102 fever, chest congestion, muscle aches, exhaustion and loss of gustatory & olfactory senses. Took about a month to "fully recover".

It didn't affect my cognitive abilities, but I do think it affected my drive or motivation. Since getting sick, I find that I have to "force" myself to do things (mostly for work) that I never struggled with before. I'm still 100% capable, I just have a lack of motivation.

And if my perception is correct, I think many (most) other people have been affected the same way. I've had many contractors that are scheduled to come do some work, just not show up for the job (no call - no show). I've had contractors come, take a look at the work we have, and then never deliver an estimate. Some give an estimate, set up a schedule, and then not show up. I've had employees on my teams struggle with "getting going" on assignments as well.

I've been trying to figure out if it is Covid, or a side effect from the tyrants turning the world upside down ("New Normal!"), shutting down businesses, masks, social distancing, BS arrows and spots on the grocery store floor, etc... Or is it a combination of both and maybe some neurological programming from our TV's mixed in as well (watch a show on Netflix, and the only thing you want to do when it is done is watch another show).
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I had Covid 2 years ago this coming Thanksgiving. I have not gotten the jab. My smell and taste are still fucked up. It comes and goes, some days are normal, some days I have weird taste and smell and an aftertaste that I can't explain. This week has been bad.

Like you, I have no enthusiasm for much of anything. I can't figure out if it is the Vid or that I am 6 months from retirement or a bit of both. I sit at work and stare at my computer struggling to be productive. A good share of my job includes number crunching/estimating with spreadsheets and I have times where I simply cannot process numbers.
 
white-rhino said:
I had Covid 2 years ago this coming Thanksgiving. I have not gotten the jab. My smell and taste are still fucked up. It comes and goes, some days are normal, some days I have weird taste and smell and an aftertaste that I can't explain. This week has been bad.

Like you, I have no enthusiasm for much of anything. I can't figure out if it is the Vid or that I am 6 months from retirement or a bit of both. I sit at work and stare at my computer struggling to be productive. A good share of my job includes number crunching/estimating with spreadsheets and I have times where I simply cannot process numbers.
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You'll never be able to figure out the psych issues whether it's cvd-19 brain damage or just life in the 20's. The long term taste/smell stuff is a minor form of brain damage. At the same time, any adult male with an ounce of street smarts is not doing well these days. Right wing, left wing, moderate... IDGAF what your political stance is... people that have the curse of being able to predict future outcomes know this is all headed to a dark place.

I get up every morning and put on a 100lb backpack, work or day off doesn't matter, then I wear that mother fucker all day pretending it's not there. I'm 99% sure my backpack didn't come from covid... it came from being a dumb redneck with a gift of predicting outcomes.

We're in this weird stagnant part of the fall of Rome. Like Venezuela circa 2012.
 
45acp said:
At the same time, any adult male with an ounce of street smarts is not doing well these days. Right wing, left wing, moderate... IDGAF what your political stance is... people that have the curse of being able to predict future outcomes know this is all headed to a dark place.
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Yes. I can see that point; the one thing I am motivated to do is figuring out how to better prepare for the collapse and take steps in that direction. Maybe that why "normal work" seems like a waste of time; albeit it pays the bills for the other prep work. Everything is just moving too slow: septic tank and water tank have been ordered, my backhoe is almost repaired, connex boxes are on the way, and now I wait until this stuff actually shows up so we can get started building the off-grid house.
 
My employee told me today his mom has blood clots and heart issues and now his dad also has heart issues. Neither were present before the shots.

Employee is not vaccinated. :smokin: We still outnumber the poison bloods at work.
 
Mikel said:
Discussion on military vaccine mandates
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I didn't watch this yet, but I have a buddy who is a firefighter on a base, so not .MIL, but gets checks from the DOD. He said the vaccine was approved at 6AM and in his arm by 7AM.
 

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Mikel said:
This is one of the few times when I'm glad this country is so full of lawyers. I hope the class-action lawsuits rock this country to its foundation.
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this will be interesting to watch. it's going to depend on state AGs, IMO. This should follow the tobacco model except the .gov is complicit here, which might allow all of this to skate
 
Paragon said:
this will be interesting to watch. it's going to depend on state AGs, IMO. This should follow the tobacco model except the .gov is complicit here, which might allow all of this to skate
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Class action lawsuits not only from people who lost their jobs because they would not get the vaccine, but if the vaccines are proven to have nasty adverse reactions, from people who were forced to get vaccinated in order to keep their jobs and were hurt by the vaccine. Could be YUGE.

And if it comes to government making liability go away, or mandating the jab... I hope it goes to the supreme court on where their authority to do this came from (from someone's ass, as we all here know).

Hopefully the precedent is set to prevent this kind of thing from EVER happening again, particulary private companies following illegal orders. Yeah right.
 
Mikel said:
Class action lawsuits not only from people who lost their jobs because they would not get the vaccine, but if the vaccines are proven to have nasty adverse reactions, from people who were forced to get vaccinated in order to keep their jobs and were hurt by the vaccine. Could be YUGE.

And if it comes to government making liability go away, or mandating the jab... I hope it goes to the supreme court on where their authority to do this came from (from someone's ass, as we all here know).

Hopefully the precedent is set to prevent this kind of thing from EVER happening again. Yeah right.
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the other prong to this is if a pendulum swing happens in congress, what kind of laws or shit will get passed to prevent future .gov from the "mandates" and shit AND the misinformation BS and the recruiting of media for their own misinformation

I, personally, believe that we have sped forward to too much big .gov and the pendulum has to swing. Maybe this depression that's coming will help, but there are many that believe the USA has outlived it's ability and like all great civilizations will fall under it's own weight.

We live in interesting times where every fact and detail is basically available to everyone in the world in an instant. We don't have to depend on biased tellings/recounts of things because we can see it actually happen due to technology. In the past, gossip/news was the mode and that filtered things through a small group of individuals.

We live in a time where all of the facts and information is at your fingertips, so, us being human, as a group, disregard that and just lemming along on emotion AND have many who believe that making political and business decisions based on emotion is more effective/important than making decisions based in facts and truth.
 
Paragon said:
the other prong to this is if a pendulum swing happens in congress, what kind of laws or shit will get passed to prevent future .gov from the "mandates" and shit AND the misinformation BS and the recruiting of media for their own misinformation

I, personally, believe that we have sped forward to too much big .gov and the pendulum has to swing. Maybe this depression that's coming will help, but there are many that believe the USA has outlived it's ability and like all great civilizations will fall under it's own weight.

We live in interesting times where every fact and detail is basically available to everyone in the world in an instant. We don't have to depend on biased tellings/recounts of things because we can see it actually happen due to technology. In the past, gossip/news was the mode and that filtered things through a small group of individuals.

We live in a time where all of the facts and information is at your fingertips, so, us being human, as a group, disregard that and just lemming along on emotion AND have many who believe that making political and business decisions based on emotion is more effective/important than making decisions based in facts and truth.
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What makes you think that republicans are going to diminish the power of the gov't to do such things? They have been complicit in all of this. I don't trust them ONE BIT.

Because they are all complicit, they will fight to the death to suppress the negative consequences of their actions - all the things they did during COVID - because otherwise they will be held responsible for the mess they created. And that's not going to happen.
 
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Mikel said:
Class action lawsuits not only from people who lost their jobs because they would not get the vaccine, but if the vaccines are proven to have nasty adverse reactions, from people who were forced to get vaccinated in order to keep their jobs and were hurt by the vaccine. Could be YUGE.

And if it comes to government making liability go away, or mandating the jab... I hope it goes to the supreme court on where their authority to do this came from (from someone's ass, as we all here know).

Hopefully the precedent is set to prevent this kind of thing from EVER happening again, particulary private companies following illegal orders. Yeah right.
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Here’s why that will never happen. The entire system was in of the scam. Legislative, judicial and executive branch all were part of it. For those branches to even allow a lawsuit you would first need to prove they had knowledge of wrong doing by phizer and the like or prove they knew the vaccines were dangerous. All of those people involved will just burn it to the ground before allowing themselves to be tried.

Why would they admit to any blame at this point? Even the SCOTUS heavily shit the bed during covid. Nope zero justice will happen as long as we are still a whole country. And if/when a revolution happens all bets are now off the table.
 
Mikel said:
What makes you think that republicans are going to diminish the power of the gov't to do such things? They have been complicit in all of this. I don't trust them ONE BIT.

Because they are all complicit, they will fight to the death to keep the negative consequences of their actions - all the things they did during COVID - because otherwise they will be held responsible for the mess they created. And that's not going to happen.
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I didn't say "republicans" I said pendulum swing. It will be led, likely, by the Democratic party and have parts that align with typical Republican platforms. And I say this because of all of the AOC, Bernie Sanders types have pushed the Pelosi types so far left, that a Democrat rebound is likely
 
Thefishguy77 said:
Here’s why that will never happen. The entire system was in of the scam. Legislative, judicial and executive branch all were part of it.
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you are confused with "in on" and following along

and you are confused with "branches" just being some universal thing year after year
 
Paragon said:
you are confused with "in on" and following along

and you are confused with "branches" just being some universal thing year after year
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If you’re “following” along with your friends that go out and kill people you’re going to probably face charges because you were in on it if you dont tell the cops before they find out…

The legislative branch hasn’t changed significantly in over 20 years. Leadership is still the same. The Executive branch really haven’t changed with the people behind the sceens, one of Trumps biggest fuckups was not completely firing everyone in the branch when he took office. Even when Obama was POTUS many of the same people had been there since the 60’s. The SCOTUS rarely changes and only seems to change for political benefit to the party in charge. So there goes the argument of the SCOTUS being a outside independent court without political bias or influence.

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