Vaccine FAILURE, on every level.

[Paragon]

My question is....was it really covid? For the last almost 3 years everything was called covid. The flu for example, changes and in many cases kills those infected. So, could it be a variation of the flu? I know the sickest I've ever been was with a flu. I'd had the flu before and yeah it sucked but this one time, I felt like death was at the door.

The point is, now that everything is covid or a mutation of covid, they don't even look for other possible causes that could require a completely different treatment. Maybe if the covid money was removed from the equation.

Oh, I don't think he's a puss. Again, he could have had something that knocked him off his feet that he had not had before. A covid variation? Maybe....maybe something else entirely but you can rest assured the medical side called it covid.

in the beginning, the lost of taste/smell and whatever the few other things were too unique not to recognize the illness as Covid.

I had it before the vaccines. I lost taste/smell but I did not run a recognizable fever. I had the aches but the biggest issue I had was I lost the hydration battle and that was the most significant issue for me.

but, yeah.... I guarantee many had the flu, etc, got a test and everyone tested positive for Covid due to the tests. IIRC, they wouldn't even test for flu anymore because it really didn't matter either way, except to ramp up the Covid numbers

 

[Thumping]

in the beginning, the lost of taste/smell and whatever the few other things were too unique not to recognize the illness as Covid.

I had it before the vaccines. I lost taste/smell but I did not run a recognizable fever. I had the aches but the biggest issue I had was I lost the hydration battle and that was the most significant issue for me.

but, yeah.... I guarantee many had the flu, etc, got a test and everyone tested positive for Covid due to the tests. IIRC, they wouldn't even test for flu anymore because it really didn't matter either way, except to ramp up the Covid numbers

Losing taste and smell was the biggest issue for me for about a week, Other than that, is was about like a head cold.

Dad is 74 and is getting over "something" now that the doctors are calling covid. He's said he just felt tired, weak and a cough...and a lack of appetite.

 

[MChat]

Viral load. That's your wake up call... i think Corona is placing a burden on the human viral load and the systemic load of some people are able to handle it better/different than others. SO MANY FACTORS.

I know some may think I'm full of it, but the psychological manipulation by the mainstream media concerning this virus can actually make it worse in individuals as well. Some people are more open to hypnotic suggestion than others, be that because of genetics, the food we eat, how tired our brains are at the time, or other factors, and people that are more open to hypnotic suggestion that watch ANY of the mainstream media concerning Covid are absolutely being programmed to have a more severe reaction, if they do become infected with the virus.

People underestimate the power of the subconscious mind; I read an article, years back, of an avid mountain climber that fell and broke his back in so many places that the doctors said, he'd be lucky to ever even walk again. He sat in his hospital bed and pictured his back as jigsaw puzzle and imagined putting it back together. Not only was he able to walk again, but he was able to run (he was also a marathon runner) and climb mountains again.

If the mind can be used to heal, it can also be used to harm or at least make it easier for something (a virus) to do harm.

 

[45acp]

Anecdotal story-

I know 2 brothers that got it early '21. Both 40's, one sorta unhealthy/overweight- the other a crossfit beast with abs on top of his abs that only eats meat and veggies. Both were on all the cool vitamins at the time, no meds, very moderate drinkers, non smokers, no vaxx.

This would have been alpha or delta.

Unhealthy brother got mild flu sick. Crossfit brother got really really sick. Aware of all the vent/ rim- damn- the- sphere rumors, refused to go to the hospital. Finally got bad enough there was no other choice.

Starts WWIII at the hospital refusing vent, threats of violence, cops called, finally a DR offers to "send him home to die" with a bottle of O2. He does and he gets better. He was still really fucked up though, missed a month of work, took 5-6 months to get back to normal, etc.

Crossfit brother was not scared of covid, not at all wrapped up in the fear-porn culture. He's the type of asshole that gets the flu and goes to work anyway.

Meanwhile unhealthy brother took some nyquil, doubled up on the zinc and D, and was fine on day 5.

Shit happens.

 

[FleshEater]

Anecdotal story-

I know 2 brothers that got it early '21. Both 40's, one sorta unhealthy/overweight- the other a crossfit beast with abs on top of his abs that only eats meat and veggies. Both were on all the cool vitamins at the time, no meds, very moderate drinkers, non smokers, no vaxx.

This would have been alpha or delta.

Unhealthy brother got mild flu sick. Crossfit brother got really really sick. Aware of all the vent/ rim- damn- the- sphere rumors, refused to go to the hospital. Finally got bad enough there was no other choice.

Starts WWIII at the hospital refusing vent, threats of violence, cops called, finally a DR offers to "send him home to die" with a bottle of O2. He does and he gets better. He was still really fucked up though, missed a month of work, took 5-6 months to get back to normal, etc.

Crossfit brother was not scared of covid, not at all wrapped up in the fear-porn culture. He's the type of asshole that gets the flu and goes to work anyway.

Meanwhile unhealthy brother took some nyquil, doubled up on the zinc and D, and was fine on day 5.

Shit happens.

Sometimes those freaks workout too much and actually have garbage immune systems from abusing their bodies with an overload of athleticism. Telling them they need a break is like talking to alcoholic.

 

[Icono]

True, I was not hammered by it.

On the workout point though.... I've never not trained when sick.
Dying hung over, train drinking water and hurling = feel better.
Hit by a car, super fucked up = slowly cycle to sweat the pain meds out and feel better.
24 hr flu = train at home shitting/hurling ever 10 min. Thing passes in 8 hrs of misery.
Flu (only gotten it once I know about) = 102 fever and still I trained, get passed it in a day.
Swine flue (it was big freshman yr of college) = still trained no worse than the regular flu
Bronchitis= yup, still trained


Not sure this doesn't make me a fucked up masochist though. I swear I recover way faster due to it.

SENPAI! Please moar!

Fucking self-stroking tard.

 

[Ksand]

Trust me, if you could do anything you didnt have it. That said i did get sick 3 times before the last rendition, and those 3 times were a cakewalk. I hope noone i know got what i just got over. Sickest ive ever been bar none. I feel fine now thankfully.

Except I did have it, and it was a walk in the park. I've been sleep deprived and felt a lot worse. Sorry your body sucks

 

[Icono]

Anecdotal story-

I know 2 brothers that got it early '21. Both 40's, one sorta unhealthy/overweight- the other a crossfit beast with abs on top of his abs that only eats meat and veggies. Both were on all the cool vitamins at the time, no meds, very moderate drinkers, non smokers, no vaxx.

This would have been alpha or delta.

Unhealthy brother got mild flu sick. Crossfit brother got really really sick. Aware of all the vent/ rim- damn- the- sphere rumors, refused to go to the hospital. Finally got bad enough there was no other choice.

Starts WWIII at the hospital refusing vent, threats of violence, cops called, finally a DR offers to "send him home to die" with a bottle of O2. He does and he gets better. He was still really fucked up though, missed a month of work, took 5-6 months to get back to normal, etc.

Crossfit brother was not scared of covid, not at all wrapped up in the fear-porn culture. He's the type of asshole that gets the flu and goes to work anyway.

Meanwhile unhealthy brother took some nyquil, doubled up on the zinc and D, and was fine on day 5.

Shit happens.

He was warned.

Make sure he remembers it.

 

[Motorcharge]

For argument's sake, lets say COVID on average is as bad as a bad flu. How does that change anything or justify continuing any of the associated bullshit.

Even if COVID is worse than a cold, it's not a fucking pandemic and there's zero justification for life altering decisions at the hands of government. The fact that that needs to be spelled out for anyone nearly 3 years later is far more concerning than COVID at this point.

 

[bunk]

Except I did have it, and it was a walk in the park. I've been sleep deprived and felt a lot worse. Sorry your body sucks

One day your body will suck. I tried to share my expeerience so it wouldnt suck as bad for others. why?

 

[bunk]

Joe you need to step back a bit and realize what most are saying. Different people have different reactions to the same strains. It's just basic genetics. It's not an insult that someone could have the exact same strain as you and not have the same side effects, it's just life. 🤷

oh i know exactly what people are saying, so my voice is not valid?

 

[DWT]

oh i know exactly what people are saying, so my voice is not valid?

Absolutely not, you just seem to be ignoring everyone's experience and projecting your own as the only possiblity.

 

[rockota]

 

[Icono]

oh i know exactly what people are saying, so my voice is not valid?

Your voice is heard, it just doesn't apply to most.

You want a survivor badge, or some such shit?

What are you expecting more than sharing your experience?

The Universe pretty much said: "You are getting sick"

Because your DNA SUCKS.

Maybe try some ABS rollls:

 

[Nwblacktail]

I know some may think I'm full of it, but the psychological manipulation by the mainstream media concerning this virus can actually make it worse in individuals as well. Some people are more open to hypnotic suggestion than others, be that because of genetics, the food we eat, how tired our brains are at the time, or other factors, and people that are more open to hypnotic suggestion that watch ANY of the mainstream media concerning Covid are absolutely being programmed to have a more severe reaction, if they do become infected with the virus.

People underestimate the power of the subconscious mind; I read an article, years back, of an avid mountain climber that fell and broke his back in so many places that the doctors said, he'd be lucky to ever even walk again. He sat in his hospital bed and pictured his back as jigsaw puzzle and imagined putting it back together. Not only was he able to walk again, but he was able to run (he was also a marathon runner) and climb mountains again.

If the mind can be used to heal, it can also be used to harm or at least make it easier for something (a virus) to do harm.

I wholeheartedly agree.. did some research on noceobo effect, (opposite of placibo) and there's tons of evidence saying nocebo is the worse of the 2. Full on stories of mis cancer diagnoses and bodies shutting down, etc all through the mind

 

[45acp]

Sometimes those freaks workout too much and actually have garbage immune systems from abusing their bodies with an overload of athleticism. Telling them they need a break is like talking to alcoholic.

I mostly believe you. I WANT to believe you. But then I read about SEAL training, DELTA, David Goggins book, etc... and these dudes hardly ever get sick. They're unstoppable fucking monsters.

I dunno man. I think there's alot about human physiology we don't understand.

It was only a few years ago that eating fat made you fat, and sugar didn't matter. Those fat grams were the devil. Sugar? Pff. You'll burn it off. Don't worry about it.

Now we got folks getting ripped eating cow shoulder with lard frosting wrapped in bacon.

I think it's (still) all a guess.

 

[CrustyJeep]

 

[Pook]

I personally knew a female who 8-9 year ago, who was in their early 30's, they had a 6 month old daughter, was healthy, exercised, who just by shear bad timing, got the flu and died within a week. Dr's said it was just very bad luck/timing and it got to their heart. Could of been due to body immune weakened do stress or lack of sleep even.

Shit happens.

All I know is the mRNA shot fucked up my wife's menstrual cycle big time for 6-7 months ( I told her not to get it but she did because she likes her job)

and that knowledge combined with all the other stuff coming out, there is no way any time soon will my younger daughter's be getting any of these vaccines. My older kids know how I feel about it, and I share my information with them but they are old enough to make their own decision. And unlike the government who divided and discriminated against us non vaxxed , I still let the vaxxed come to my house.

 

[Pook]

I mostly believe you. I WANT to believe you. But then I read about SEAL training, DELTA, David Goggins book, etc... and these dudes hardly ever get sick. They're unstoppable fucking monsters.

I dunno man. I think there's alot about human physiology we don't understand.

It was only a few years ago that eating fat made you fat, and sugar didn't matter. Those fat grams were the devil. Sugar? Pff. You'll burn it off. Don't worry about it.

Now we got folks getting ripped eating cow shoulder with lard frosting wrapped in bacon.

I think it's (still) all a guess.

I think that whole end of things, is the bullshit processed garbage foods are exactly that.

The people eating keto, or cavemen, hunter/wanderer diets are healthier and more ripped just based on not eating the garbage fake food and eating what we really need to eat.

I did a dirty Keto/heavy in meat diet for 2 years and felt awesome, worked out lots, did 75hard. Then We moved, I got real busy finishing old house and succumbed to my weakness of being in a hurry, stayed in shitty diet mode the past year. All though busy outside, I have gained 20 lbs, and feel like shit 24/7 and am always hungry for the next bag of sugar filled garbage.

Starting/trying to eat healthy again and getting workouts back on track, but I feel like crap, headaches and hungry. Junk food addictions is real.

 

[FleshEater]

I mostly believe you. I WANT to believe you. But then I read about SEAL training, DELTA, David Goggins book, etc... and these dudes hardly ever get sick. They're unstoppable fucking monsters.

I dunno man. I think there's alot about human physiology we don't understand.

It was only a few years ago that eating fat made you fat, and sugar didn't matter. Those fat grams were the devil. Sugar? Pff. You'll burn it off. Don't worry about it.

Now we got folks getting ripped eating cow shoulder with lard frosting wrapped in bacon.

I think it's (still) all a guess.

Think about the environments of some of those examples.

I’m talking about people who have work stress, family stress, projects around the house, everything a normal person deals with, and then put on top of that constant, non-stop exercise. It’s not healthy and can hurt you.

All those need to be considered. Not just specific examples.

 

[Motorcharge]

I mostly believe you. I WANT to believe you. But then I read about SEAL training, DELTA, David Goggins book, etc... and these dudes hardly ever get sick. They're unstoppable fucking monsters.

I dunno man. I think there's alot about human physiology we don't understand.

It was only a few years ago that eating fat made you fat, and sugar didn't matter. Those fat grams were the devil. Sugar? Pff. You'll burn it off. Don't worry about it.

Now we got folks getting ripped eating cow shoulder with lard frosting wrapped in bacon.

I think it's (still) all a guess.

We still use 1800s psudeoscience as a metric for how healthy a person is via BMI. We didn't recognize the Tuskegee experiments until the Clinton admin and that's only the tip of the iceberg on crazy medical experiments the government has carried out. It wasn't that long ago that we were cutting people's fucking brains out to "cure" mental disorders and a Kennedy had it done in secret that wasn't exposed until 1987.

The idea that we're not still making massive fuck ups in regards to medicine and science is absurd at best. We should be skeptical of everything from the medical and pharmaceutical industries who have a long, long, long history of being mortally corrupt and perfectly willing to not only put profits ahead of health, but collude with governments to experiment on the general public.

Of course you bring any of that up and people act like you're a fucking loony conspiracy theorist.

 

[MattS]

ok biden, still waiting on the winter of death.



What an absolute absurd statement to make especially given the amount of evidence just in this thread pointing to how differently it affects everyone. Like I've said before, I've been fully intimate with my GF minutes after she tested positive both times and still haven't got shit, so you can take your "wakeup call" and shove it up your ass.

He can't. It seems his head is currently occupying that space.

 

[grumpy356]

LOLLOLOLLOLLOOLOOLOLL:OOLLLLLLLLL


You found the science, you simply didn't understand it.

It's PLAINLY out there for review.

I'm not pulling back up the articles, but feel free. they are out there.

The studies show, when a companies, governments, whoever, pays to have a study or science done, it's remarkable that the outcome a VAST majority of the time (like OVERWHELMINGLY) , finds in favor of who paid the tab.

 

[the conservative atheist]

Diehard liberal at work, who "couldn't understand" why I wouldn't want the vax, is out with COVID.

 

[DRTDEVL]

Correction, every variant affects people differently. I had 3 cakewalks and a thunderfuck.

Third time was the charm for me.

I hear ya man... I got it fairly bad the last go around also. It was still just a cold/ flu, but it did make for some fawked up body aches and a fever.

Not to be blunt....

Almost.

What is it like to be in a coma? My covid story.

Pardon the spelling and odd words that may enter this post, my hands have too many tremors to actually type so I am using voice to text. As stated in the beer exchange thread, I was placed in a medically induced coma on December 11th, where I remained for 38 days. Many people wonder what the...

irate4x4.com

 

[rockyota83]

oh i know exactly what people are saying, so my voice is not valid?

your voice is valid up until you claim everyone is going to get a wake up call as if everyone is going to react the same way you did, your voice is no more valid then anyone else. some people have better immune systems and that "thunderfuck" version is just a mild cold

 

[Yota Up]

The real fear here is the fear of technology.
I got the mRNA - was supposed to die soon, then die later now "maybe in ten years". Whatever. I feel great.

Hey ****.

There's a thread about your country and the trouble it's in.
Yet you are silent about it there, but still vocal here where it doesn't concern you.

That makes you a super ****. ****.

 

[MChat]

[Chong's Voice] Yea, man, it's the herbs, man, that's what's doing it, ya, that's the ticket. [/Chong's Voice]

Someone's been smokin' those herbs to come up with this.

 

[VEX]

Trying out a new Drs Office in a couple weeks. Curious as to how they'll react to my unjabbed status. If it's an issue Buh bye!

I had some blood work to be done last year and my 10 yr Dr. said to come in for a check and get a CV test to go further.

I adamantly stated if a test or jab was required to see you any further, then you will no longer be my Dr.

After a moment I heard, I think we can work around that if you wish.

I am still not trusting ANY of these people anymore.

 

[45acp]

[Chong's Voice] Yea, man, it's the herbs, man, that's what's doing it, ya, that's the ticket. [/Chong's Voice]

Someone's been smokin' those herbs to come up with this.

They're making shit up out of thin air, and throwing it all at the wall to see what eventually sticks. There's going to be so much alternate bullshit to general increases in heart conditions over the next couple of years that blaming any heart problem on murna will be an old wives tale.

Trevor had a heart attack during baseball practice because climate change. And also, he was on vitamin C. And, he had covid last year. Of course it's not the 7th booster... only a MAGA- fascist would think that.