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Vaccine FAILURE, on every level.
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Paragon
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is he mixing for the WHO?...
Tech Tim
Your AD Here....
Not when they are right out there in front of everybody....
Looks like you blew a seal.
yesterday lady at the grocery store in front of me at checkout had two masks on 
Void_of_Light
Keeping I.T. real
I went to Walmart at lunch and the guy at the deli was wearing a full face hood. Like something an executioner would wear.
Sandy Johnson
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Saw that a ton on my trip to Cali just got back from. The stupid is real out there.yesterday lady at the grocery store in front of me at checkout had two masks on
Yota Up
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I've bolded the key words of this article that inspire confidence in the words of the people speaking them, to assist in solidifying that the "science is settled" and that they know what they are doing:
But some of the nuances around why and how immunity against Covid-19 fades remain a mystery.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/22/health/immunity-against-covid-19/index.html
But there's another piece of the immunity puzzle that scientists are urgently trying to solve, and that is whether some of this drop off in our protection may be a result of the mRNA technology
To be fair, Fauci said we won't know how long immunity induced by these kinds of vaccines may last until mRNA is used to make vaccines against a different type of pathogen, perhaps one that doesn't change as much as SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19.
Definitive answers may be years away.
There's no good way to know, right now, how well any particular person's immune system responds to a vaccine, which is why it's important to be vaccinated, even if you've already had Covid-19.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/16/health/hybrid-immunity-studies/index.html
Fauci added that he's not sure why the immune response triggered by mRNA vaccines may not be longer lasting.
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"They modified the molecule to remove the inflammatory aspect of it, to allow it to be used as a vaccine, that possibly--and I underlined 15 times, possibly--could be reason why," Fauci said.
"Maybe if we use this mRNA, but add a different adjuvant with it, you might get a really good response
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/01/health/mrna-vaccines-covid-future/index.html
Bhattachyra has another theory about why the mRNA platform may not be lasting as long.
"I don't know what the density of spike proteins is on a cell; it may not be as high as what it is on a virus, for instance," Bhattachyra said. No one really knows what the spike-expressing cells look like and how closely they resemble the virus they're targeting.
"It could be that the spacing is pretty infrequent and you're just not getting the level of activation that you would want," he said, adding "that's pure speculation."
"The big unknown is this: How much of that decline is due to something quirky because of the Omicron variant? Or, is this a weakness in the technology and it's not holding up? And it's very hard to sort out," Hotez said. "All vaccines have strengths and weaknesses, and it may be that for mRNA that it does not produce durable protection. It could be that you go in, use mRNA vaccines to rapidly immunize a population, stabilize it, but then over time, you're going to have to come in with a heterologous boost that's a different technology."
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Those questions include: How long do memory B cells and memory T cells last? How do the vaccines containing the original coronavirus, identified in Wuhan, China, induce effective immune memory against all the variants so far? What immune mechanisms provide protection from infection versus protection from severe disease, hospitalization and death? Why do different people respond differently to these vaccines?
"These and many more questions still need answers if we are going to use this platform most effectively," Wherry wrote. Such questions also need answers in the context of vaccine durability, especially as the durability of protection and the durability of immune responses themselves are related -- but not the same, according to Wherry.
For the mRNA vaccines, "durability of protection is on par with other vaccine types from the analyses we have seen on the adenoviral platforms versus mRNA. Durability of immune responses -- it's been difficult to do really precise comparative studies longitudinally over a time frame relevant to answer this question," Wherry wrote in his email.
But some of the nuances around why and how immunity against Covid-19 fades remain a mystery.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/22/health/immunity-against-covid-19/index.html
But there's another piece of the immunity puzzle that scientists are urgently trying to solve, and that is whether some of this drop off in our protection may be a result of the mRNA technology
To be fair, Fauci said we won't know how long immunity induced by these kinds of vaccines may last until mRNA is used to make vaccines against a different type of pathogen, perhaps one that doesn't change as much as SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19.
Definitive answers may be years away.
There's no good way to know, right now, how well any particular person's immune system responds to a vaccine, which is why it's important to be vaccinated, even if you've already had Covid-19.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/16/health/hybrid-immunity-studies/index.html
Fauci added that he's not sure why the immune response triggered by mRNA vaccines may not be longer lasting.
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"They modified the molecule to remove the inflammatory aspect of it, to allow it to be used as a vaccine, that possibly--and I underlined 15 times, possibly--could be reason why," Fauci said.
"Maybe if we use this mRNA, but add a different adjuvant with it, you might get a really good response
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/01/health/mrna-vaccines-covid-future/index.html
Bhattachyra has another theory about why the mRNA platform may not be lasting as long.
"I don't know what the density of spike proteins is on a cell; it may not be as high as what it is on a virus, for instance," Bhattachyra said. No one really knows what the spike-expressing cells look like and how closely they resemble the virus they're targeting.
"It could be that the spacing is pretty infrequent and you're just not getting the level of activation that you would want," he said, adding "that's pure speculation."
"The big unknown is this: How much of that decline is due to something quirky because of the Omicron variant? Or, is this a weakness in the technology and it's not holding up? And it's very hard to sort out," Hotez said. "All vaccines have strengths and weaknesses, and it may be that for mRNA that it does not produce durable protection. It could be that you go in, use mRNA vaccines to rapidly immunize a population, stabilize it, but then over time, you're going to have to come in with a heterologous boost that's a different technology."
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'Many more questions still need answers'
There are still many questions left to answer about Covid-19 vaccines and immunology, John Wherry, director of the Institute for Immunology at the University of Pennsylvania's Perelman School of Medicine, wrote in an email to CNN.Those questions include: How long do memory B cells and memory T cells last? How do the vaccines containing the original coronavirus, identified in Wuhan, China, induce effective immune memory against all the variants so far? What immune mechanisms provide protection from infection versus protection from severe disease, hospitalization and death? Why do different people respond differently to these vaccines?
"These and many more questions still need answers if we are going to use this platform most effectively," Wherry wrote. Such questions also need answers in the context of vaccine durability, especially as the durability of protection and the durability of immune responses themselves are related -- but not the same, according to Wherry.
For the mRNA vaccines, "durability of protection is on par with other vaccine types from the analyses we have seen on the adenoviral platforms versus mRNA. Durability of immune responses -- it's been difficult to do really precise comparative studies longitudinally over a time frame relevant to answer this question," Wherry wrote in his email.
nahmus
Refugee from syrup
U.S. doctors reconsider Pfizer's Paxlovid for lower-risk COVID patients
Use of Pfizer Inc's COVID-19 antiviral Paxlovid spiked this week, but some doctors are reconsidering the pills for lower-risk patients after a U.S. public health agency warned that symptoms can recur after people complete a course of the drug, and that they should then isolate a second time...
Slander
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Surprisingly you occasionally see tards like that around here double masking, usually boomers. My other favorite are the dudes with full beards wearing n95 or kn95s. Hey dumbo that shit doesn't do much, but especially doesn't work with facial hair!!yesterday lady at the grocery store in front of me at checkout had two masks on
aczlan
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Have a lawnmower for sale on the lawn, had someone stop to look at it while I was working in the shop, I walked over to see if they wanted to hear it run, they pulled up their mask and just about ran back to their car while I was 20+ feet away and they were upwind from meSurprisingly you occasionally see tards like that around here double masking, usually boomers. My other favorite are the dudes with full beards wearing n95 or kn95s. Hey dumbo that shit doesn't do much, but especially doesn't work with facial hair!!
It's a psychosis IMO...
Aaron Z
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Truth on the masks an facial hair. They used to make us shave if we used them at work.Surprisingly you occasionally see tards like that around here double masking, usually boomers. My other favorite are the dudes with full beards wearing n95 or kn95s. Hey dumbo that shit doesn't do much, but especially doesn't work with facial hair!!
I live in S FL so there are a lot of out of towners that come and go. I can spot them by their masks and confirm with their plates.
Only dumbass I've seen wearing a mask this weekend was a 20 something looking young guy standing in the way of me getting a cart. I assume he was waiting for a lady who was there to wipe one down. I walked around him and grabbed one muttering "dumb faggot" under my breath.
crispins
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I try hard not to do that it often say "dumbass" when passing those people
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Do you really want these people buying your mower anyway? They strike me as the type to complain, bitch and moan and then try to sue for whatever isn’t 100% on your used mower. Or maybe they were going to steal itHave a lawnmower for sale on the lawn, had someone stop to look at it while I was working in the shop, I walked over to see if they wanted to hear it run, they pulled up their mask and just about ran back to their car while I was 20+ feet away and they were upwind from me
It's a psychosis IMO...
Aaron Z
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I'm a boomer and I don't wear a maskSurprisingly you occasionally see tards like that around here double masking, usually boomers. My other favorite are the dudes with full beards wearing n95 or kn95s. Hey dumbo that shit doesn't do much, but especially doesn't work with facial hair!!
aczlan
Good Morning!
they didn't have enough vehicle to steal much more than the mower deck.
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has this been fact checked by Facebook yet?
rockota
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i'm waiting for crustyjeep to check it... go right to the source of vaccine truth.
CrustyJeep
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That's because the trials were on a stupidly small amount of people for a very short amount of time.
Fucking Lemming!CrustyJeep
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The artical headline implies the vaccines take lives, and then the TFA handily states that they don't. Just sayin'That's because the trials were on a stupidly small amount of people for a very short amount of time.
We're all just sayin'The artical headline implies the vaccines take lives, and then the TFA handily states that they don't. Just sayin'
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Not to mention they don't need to publish the results of all studies. Trial 1 could have killed 100% of the participants. They don't have to publish that. They wait until there is a positive result and publish Trial number 7... Same goes for antidepressants.
Anyone who thinks the vaccines have killed zero people is far beyond foolish. That is straight up denial. More young people died or were seriously maimed by the needless jabs than the virus.
Why are we still debating this? More kids died of lockdown-induced suicide than the virus. Good grief.
Anyone who thinks the vaccines have killed zero people is far beyond foolish. That is straight up denial. More young people died or were seriously maimed by the needless jabs than the virus.
Why are we still debating this? More kids died of lockdown-induced suicide than the virus. Good grief.
FleshEater
Ordinary Average Guy
A 24% higher fatality rate in the vaccine group is hardly zero.
nahmus
Refugee from syrup
They wanted to hide the results for 50 years. Then when that was not allowed and they do release stuff there is nothing to hide? I don't buy it. We will never know the truth.
